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(@mau-evig-the-queen-of-cats)
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Has anyone recieved the following e-mail forewarded into your e-mail address? (I recieved it twice, once from my stepfather and once from my boyfriend...and I ALSO heard of this on the radio)

IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES AND
CANADA DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF GASOLINE FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE
SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.

AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OF
OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL
COMPANIES.

THEREFORE SEPTEMBER 1st HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR
BEHIND " DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THESE TWO NATIONS SHOULD NOT BUY A
SINGLE DROP OF GASOLINE THAT DAY.

THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY
PEOPLE AS YOU C! AN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES
THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?

REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE GOING UP BUT AT THE
SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING
COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON
EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING
MATERIALS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE
DAY, WE WILL DO IT
AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE
YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 1ST A DAY THAT THE
CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA SAY "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

How many of you plan to take part? I think I will. :]

 
 Wesu
(@wesu)
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I was turned off at first since the message was in all caps, but I decided to read it for lack of anything better to do.

It sounds stupid and it will never work.

But I say that about everything, so meh.

 
(@darkmessiah-forte)
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www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp
I pretty much agree with Wesu here.

 
(@stumbleina)
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It's not even actually a boycott. Lame.

 
(@thecycle)
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I drive a diesel Golf, so when it's all said and done I spend about half as much money on gas as someone who drives a V6 gasoline SUV, the most popular vehicle type on the roads today. If at a particular point in time I feel I can't afford to use the car, I take the bus. I couldn't care less about gas prices.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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the capslock also put me off from reading that, but i did just to see what it was about.
i don't have a car, so i couldn't do a thing even if i wanted to and my dad's car is only filled up about once a week.

why is petrol called gas anyway? to me, gas is what you cook with or run your heating system on.

 
 Wesu
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to me, gas is what you cook with or run your heating system on.

We here in America also call that gas. We also call an upset stomach gas. lmao gas

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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how're you to tell with type of gas you're talking about then?

 
(@swifthom_1722585705)
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So this is PETROL gas?
Not, heating gas it's petrol gas...

...

Kinda makes more sense now I think about it actually, I was picturing everyone in the US turning off their central heating/cooling/ovens/whatever...

 
 Wesu
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how're you to tell with type of gas you're talking about then?

By the context in which we're talking about it.

"Hey, I need to go get gas." -- car talk

"Turn the gas on." -- gas oven thing

 
(@Anonymous)
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I have gas!

*dies of gasoline poisoning*

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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I don't even need to read whatever is at Snoops to know that it doesn't make any sense. As Astrid said, it's not even a real boycott. A boycott means not buying gas (in this case) until the prices go down. Since that's not going to happen, the prices aren't going to go down.

The amount of people changing their habits due to the increasing gas prices is extremely low. The gas prices aren't going anywhere but up. I don't care how much "extra" oil is produced/found/etc. as the prices aren't going to go down unless people en masse change their consumption levels. Since I doubt people will (or in some cases can) change it, just get used to the prices.

 
(@lighty)
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Plus the hurricane isn't going to help at all. We could easily see $3/gal as a nationwide average soon.

 
(@bcdcdude_1722585755)
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Just be glad you don't live in England where the petrol prices are much higher than in the US.

 
(@rico-underwood)
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Indeed what was the conversion last I heard? 6 bucks a gallon? 3 doesn't look too bad compared to that. It's already at 2.75 here.

~Rico

 
(@professor-coldheart_1722585839)
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Yeah, we Brits have to pay over 0.90 a litre.

For all your creature comforts, drive electric.

 
(@mau-evig-the-queen-of-cats)
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How do you guys know it's not going to happen? Has ANY of you seen it happen yet? No. So I wouldn't be too certain.
And where I live, we are pretty close to three dollars a gallon already. It's much cheaper in the south. They should change Newyork from the Empire state to the High Gas Price state. :lol
And is it trully 6 bucks a gallon in Britian?
And, a boycott is a boycott. Even if they are only doing it for one day. What else could you call it? A service refusal?
A mutual compromise to temporary ban the purchase of Gas prices? And if you read in that article, they said if it didn't bring the gas prices down they'd do it AGAIN. So TECHNICALLY it IS a boycott if they plan to do it again, therefore they are continuing to do such. Realisitically they could not just stop buying gas or we wouldn't be able to go anywhere or do anything.

 
(@stumbleina)
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It's not a BOYCOTT because you aren't actually BOYCOTTING anything. You're just not buying gasoline for ONE DAY. Which means instead of filling up Monday you go fill up Tuesday and the consumption rate remains EXACTLY the same.

If you were to say, take the bus every day until gas returns to under $2 a gallon in your area, then yes, that would be a boycott.

I think it's funny when people in England complain about petrol prices. Especially considering in the past Saturday I drove a distance longer than the entire country of England to get from North Texas to South CENTRAL Texas for college. Prices in the US are often cheaper because of the sheer amount of gas used to ship things back and forth across the country.

Let's all just ride share.

 
(@mr-creosote)
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The base price of petrol in the UK is cheap, it's the tax that is added onto petrol that this the highest proportion of the cost. Driving is expensive here. You pay tax on the petrol, then vat on top of the petrol and tax. Road tax for the car to be on the road, registration tax when you get a new car, vat on the purchase of a car, vat on the insurance and servicing of the car, the list goes on. So that's why I use public transport :) .

Vat = 17.5% :(

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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Mau, it's not a boycott. Period. If the Montgomery Boycott (using the bus boycott as an example) was based on what is being proposed in that silly email, Blacks would still be sitting at the back of the bus. ;p

Boycotts only work if large numbers of people are willing to sacrifice something. People aren't willing to sacrifice gas yet, so it means nothing. Sacrificing gas means to be willing to go without it for possibly a very long time.

As for the prices in NY, there are plenty of places in the country that have higher prices than what I see in NY. There are places that are already way over $3 per gallon.

 
(@bcdcdude_1722585755)
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The base price of petrol in the UK is cheap, it's the tax that is added onto petrol that this the highest proportion of the cost.


I cannot remember where or when I heard this, but apparently if you were to tax a Mars bar the way you tax petrol you'd be paying 3 or so for it. Again - I cannot remember when or where I heard it, or even if it's true, so I may be talking rubbish.

Thank goodness for my fuel efficient car. Sure it don't go fast, but i don't care. I'm not a boy racer.

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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3 for a mars bar? pretty cheap considering how expensive food and etc can be in the petrol stations. :p

 
(@fexus)
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whoever said it was cheaper in the south, hows 3.69 a gal sound? yeah... real cheap. 2 months ago i paid HALF of what i payed the other day to simply fill up my 13 galon tank on my 4 cyl. volvo.

Looks like the people with SUV's and big trucks are gonna have to GROW UP AND GET SOMETHING ECONOMICAL.... but then again, i live in the USA. like that will ever happen.

wellcome to the gas market ploy. the ignorant will feed the government. the casual will shake their heads in disgust. and the intelligent really wont care because this is history repeating in a different form.

 
(@vara-sundaisy)
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I have an economical car, only now I wish it was also compatible with E-85 (I'm from Minnesota; don't know if they offer ethanol fuel in all other areas?).

I understand other countries like China and India are industrializing, and they need to put gas in their cars too. But I don't see this happening all within one summer. And Hurricane Katrina has done a number on the gas prices, but they were skyrocketing BEFORE it hit.

Call me paranoid, but I smell a rat. Either someone wants to get rich and is banking on us buying the same amount of gas as usual, or (I don't know if it's been thought of before) but someone wants to keep middle and working class people off the road and is banking on them being forced to buy less gas. Either way I feel like I'm kissing someone's butt and I don't like it.

What I'm going to do is walk to places if possible, even if it's a long walk, and fewer spontaneous trips to Target, the library, the mall, etc. (I need to save more money this year anyway). But if I wanna take a little road trip somewhere I'm still gonna do it.

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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Call me paranoid, but I smell a rat. Either someone wants to get rich and is banking on us buying the same amount of gas as usual, or (I don't know if it's been thought of before) but someone wants to keep middle and working class people off the road and is banking on them being forced to buy less gas.


Profit making is an obvious huge factor, but the second point IS actually accurate to some degree. They are hoping we buy less gas for the moment. I couldn't believe my ears when Bush actually came out and actually asked the country as a whole to cut back on our gas consumption (meaning drive less) for the time being yesterday.

Fexus, supposedly down South in particular, there's a major supply disruption in the region. That will case a major spike there that the rest of the country won't get in comparison (though obviously everyone is seeing some sort of spike). Usually the gas down South is much cheaper than what many of us pay up North or in places like California.

 
(@mau-evig-the-queen-of-cats)
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Well..did any of you NOT buy gas on September 1st? I didn't. :lol
and it's up to about $3.09/Gallon right now.
Did that guy say $3.69? I must not have gone into that part of the south. The gas prices were reletively cheap compared to where I live when I went down there...

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Refineries in Louisiana are back up...well, at least 35 percent anyway. That number will rise soon.

It'll be about a few weeks before gas goes back to pre-Katrina levels.

 
(@mau-evig-the-queen-of-cats)
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Well, here's a new e-mail I just recieved. Take a good look at it and decide what you think, this new, better approach seems to make more sense...

we just received this message from someone, and it makes a lot of sense. READ IT AND DO IT. it's not a stupid chain bulletin.

Take action to lower gas prices!!!

I heard we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the end of
summer. Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action.

Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an
inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.09 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50-$1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace.... not sellers.

With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea:
For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp (sic) out on me at this point.. keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it...... THREE HUNDRED MILLION
PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people and DON"T purchase ANY gasoline from EXXON and MOBIL. That's all. How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND
KEEP THEM DOWN.

THIS CAN REALLY WORK! It will work even FASTER if you send it to
everyone you can. I just did.

OKAY EVERYONE, DON'T BUY EXXON OR MOBIL UNTIL GAS IS UNDER $2.00

--
anyways, always, and forever
-Megan R. Barnett

 
(@tornadot)
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Ride the darn bus...I still can't understand why people want SUV's when gas is so high but it's our mentality of bigger is better...I can see how some people need the big vehicles but a lot don't need them...

 
(@sakaki22)
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I paid $3.09 for gas yesterday to see a 20 cent price drop in the entire area within the next four hours i_i

 
(@mau-evig-the-queen-of-cats)
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It's sky rocketed to 3.49 a gallon last time I checked...and the prices just keep on going up like it's some kind of auction...:x

 
(@tornadot)
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I think they are price gouging you or something...

 
(@thecycle)
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No sh-t, Sherlock.

 
(@albino-rapper)
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I am in a family of five.

There's Mom and Dad, my 22 year old brother, my 19 year old brother, and 16 (nearly 17) year old me.
Currently, all of us are able to drive. I do not have a license, but I have my learner's permit and have driven.

When I was in preschool, we had a truck, a car, and a van.
The van was very large and perfect for the five of us to fit in and go on road trips and such. It had a TV, too.

Now, we no longer own any of these vehicles. Dad sold his truck, we donated the car (it pooped out) to my oldest brother and my current high school for their auto department, and we recently sold the van.
Dad has a different truck now, Mom has an SUV (OH NOES!), and we have two cars. One of them is currently with my 19 year old brother at his college, and the other will be my car and I'll hopefully drive it to my high school next year.

My oldest brother is in the Air Force and is stationed on a base in Kansas. He has purchased three junky vehicles since then. He's got a truck and two cars that are pooped out. Don't ask, because I just don't know.

In our family, the SUV has replaced the large van we used to have. We've taken it on several treks across the country. It's roomy and comfortable. Dad may have a truck, but it wouldn't comfortably fit us and our stuff on a vacation requiring a two day drive.

People have large vehicles because they have large loads. People are allowed to choose and buy whatever vehicle they want for their own personal reasons. Is it really your business to mind what everyone else is driving?

 
(@dreamer-of-nights)
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petrol : gas :: flat : apartment

Here's a wonderful list of words. 😮

And here are some more. 😀

As for the issue at hand, I agree with pretty much anyone who thinks this is not a real boycott and I take the train.

** shot and mauled **

 
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