Apparently, a sixth season of the popular cartoon based off the comic is teetering on the edge of oblivion.
All I can say is this: crap. I like this show. ;_;
Why is always the cool shows that are cancelled? Most recent one before this one that I can think of is Megas XLR (best giant robot cartoon ever. Better than Gundam. Yes, I went there. Sue me.).
It jumped the shark at the end of season 3. The plot lines have been getting gradually grander and gradually worse off every episode following. Same is happening to JLU. There's a reason why the DCAU toons have been cancelled after their 4th season. It's most usually the peak or the point where it'll never be as good as it was.
Megas wasa decent show, but it's fair play that it ended. Toonami made an experiment by creating their own show, they may have succeeded, but the staff all moved on to different areas, the in-house more or less collapsed, probably due to the success of their creation.
I've known about this for about a month, it doesn't really disappoint me as I only watched a handful of episodes. At least the comic is in no danger of being cancelled (and Slade/Deathstroke was cooler in the comics anyway.)
Maybe it also has to do with the fact that DC's other Teen Team, the Legion of Super-Heroes is reported to have a series in the works. Not to mention that they're going to be appearing in JLU.
This kind of thing is to be expected when you take E-list superheroes, bastardize them into pseudo-japanese picasso creations, and give them their own TV show with the most grating theme song since the dawn of television.
I find five seasons to be about right for that particular series. For all it jumped the shark, five seasons gave each Titan a chance to be the lead focus for a series: season one - Robin; season two - Beast Boy; Season three - Cyborg; season four - Raven...
*hasn't seen any of season five*
After fleshing out each individual character like that, I wonder how far they really could take it into a sixth season.
*Sadness* I do think Sam is probably right in the fact that each Titan had been the focus in a season. So unless they throw more characters at it (You dont do that) its going to be game over. Mind you lets hope it has a nice send off.
I like Megas. That was an american version of me in that robot. 
Aw, man, I love the Titans though I'm not sure I will send a letter to try to save it. If it does end, I hope they at least bring Terra back if nothing else to help fight in a big final fight, with her on the good side this time.
And to Sam, in this season, the focus is more on the entire team and not just the core five, but also Titans East and the numerous honorary titans some of which were introduced this season.
BLASTED EZBAKA!! WHY DID YOU LOG ME OUT?!!
*ahem*
It saddens me to think that a good show like Teen Titans is facing a possibly bleak future. I think that if it does end, let it end with a BANG! or something nice, to thank the fans for sticking around the whole time and watching.
And I'm like Ultra in this sense: Why is it all the good shows get cancelled?
I mean all the crappy ones seem to stick around for years on end (*cough* most of 4Kid's shows *cough*).
I heard about this and have no problem. Five seasons feel enough for the average cartoon. And yes, I did felt the series has gotten a bit worse sometime in the third season. For some reason, many cartoons I watch tend to jump the shark come Season Three...
~Neo
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I find five seasons to be about right for that particular series. For all it jumped the shark, five seasons gave each Titan a chance to be the lead focus for a series: season one - Robin; season two - Beast Boy; Season three - Cyborg; season four - Raven...
Season 2 was more Terra, and Season Five's been marginally focused on BB as well. Unfortunatly, Starfire's not getting any focus...
The reason for the cancelation, unfortunatly, seems to be a combination of that damn Bat Embargo (with Robin scheduled to appear in The Batman) and a poor executive decision at CN to have more "Cartoon-Cartoons". Seriously, who watches those shows?
A number of staff members across several fansites have said otherwise when it was suggested they just got tired of it... Oh well, there's still the DTV coming up.
Her characterization occured over the course of several episodes over the seasons. 'Sisters', the 'Transformation' one, the one where they went to the planet of Tamaran, and of course 'Go!' where we learned Starfire's origin story (in terms of landing on Earth; immediately following that was the inception of the Titans).
And Pyro, Slade is awesome in the cartoon. If only because Ron Perlman voices him so well.
Slade is only awesome in the cartoon for as long as it takes for you to actually ask yourself "just what the hell is his motive?!" once you reach that, blam. He's just a walking talking characture.
At least Deathstroke is a no-nonesense overused and spead to the point of Wolverineish tendancy with a basic "Money = Kill" motive, immortality and some stupidass story regarding his son.
I actually really, REALLY, freakin' enjoyed the Titans show. Say what you will, I thought it did excellent. It obviously did weaken near the end there, but I did like the way that the show showed every character's personality from the ground up. I loved everything that was behind Raven, really. T'was actually pretty dark.
But then in later episodes they treat all the previous episodes, those that were grand, like they were nothing. It's almost as if the city they protected was non existant. There was never much show of gratitude from ANY civillian, and no one else outside of the city ever knew ANYthing about any major craziness that occured.
The team that BB used to be in, whatever the hell they were called, had apparently never heard of the crazy world take over from Raven's father, never heard of Slade literally destroying the place along with Terra... c'mon now. Super heroes have GOT to watch the news, too. WTF, I say.
That's where I think their weakpoint was. They had nothing for continuity OUTSIDE of the Titans. And I for one thought that was bogus.
Oh, and I just recently saw the one with Robin in that race to get his secret luggage or whatever. 
That one was pointless and just flatout retarded.
I am gonna miss the show, though. Pseudo-anime or not, they did a very nice job at making it look as such. And if I remember right, didn't this also hit Japan, and didn't it also do very well over there, as well?
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Her characterization occured over the course of several episodes over the seasons. 'Sisters', the 'Transformation' one, the one where they went to the planet of Tamaran, and of course 'Go!' where we learned Starfire's origin story (in terms of landing on Earth; immediately following that was the inception of the Titans).
The same can be said of any character. Cyborg, for example, got way too many episodes based on I'm-half-robot angst. Raven had Nevermore, Switched, Fear Itself, Spellbound, and most recently, Hide-and-Seek.
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The team that BB used to be in, whatever the hell they were called, had apparently never heard of the crazy world take over from Raven's father, never heard of Slade literally destroying the place along with Terra... c'mon now. Super heroes have GOT to watch the news, too. WTF, I say.
No one else would know because they were all turned to stone within seconds.
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Oh, and I just recently saw the one with Robin in that race to get his secret luggage or whatever.
So true. The wacky episodes rerally went downhill since Mother Mae-Eye. Not that any ever did quite beat Mad Mod. Mad Mod is the holy grail of wackyness in DC related cartoons.
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This kind of thing is to be expected when you take E-list superheroes, bastardize them into pseudo-japanese picasso creations, and give them their own TV show with the most grating theme song since the dawn of television.
New Teen Titans was DC's top selling title in the 80s. What e-listers... 
Oh, and I just recently saw the one with Robin in that race to get his secret luggage or whatever. That one was pointless and just flatout retarded.
*nods* and I usually LOVE the wacky episodes. I think I might have enjoyed it more if the baddies weren't so random and came a bit earlier or actually DID something then just appear for a grand total of like two times, doing aboslutely jack.
As for that personal item Robin is, I kinda hope it has some significant plot by the end of the series, otherwise, it was pretty pointless and wasted potential.
~Neo
I understand the origins episode as being the contents of the suitcase. Just my theory unless we get something more official...
That's how I see it.
Titans should be quite fortunate to get as many episodes as they did, though I think it really should have ended with The End. However, there's the DTV Teen Titans: Trouble in Tokyo to consider. I wonder how that's coming along?
You know what show would have benefitted from more episodes?
ReBoot. Hellz yeah.
Reboot. A CG show that was actually GOOD. I especially loved their use of time.
Bob: Oh man, this new ploy of MegaByte's is tricky! I might need a whole SECOND to undo it!
Dot: Well hurry; a game's arriving in less than a nanosecond!
WARNING: INCOMING GAME
Bob+Dot: OH NOEZ!
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At least Deathstroke is a no-nonesense overused and spead to the point of Wolverineish tendancy with a basic "Money = Kill" motive, immortality and some stupidass story regarding his son.
Question is which son? Deathstroke had two sons, Grant the first Ravager that was contracted to kill the Titans who was promptly killed and DS took up the contract which led him into conflict with the Titans. Or were you talking about Joesph who was the Titan named Jericho? (Let's say his story's very convoluted.)
Teen Titans was pretty mediocre in storyline, and the American animation with overused Japanese facial expressions lost it for me.
Mother Mae-Eye was the only episode that made me laugh at all.
"You broke mother's cookies."
"Oooooooooooooo...!"
I hatre to be honest, but... Meh.
Titains was... ok, and better than many carttons out there, but I really preferred JLU. Generally it had more in the way of plot, characterisation etc and didn't let itself get too distracted by humour.
Come to think of it, Batman: the Animated Series wound up after 3 seasons, too...
B:TAS lasted six seasons. And TT's up to its fifth.
I liked Teen Titans, but it reaching the end of line. Each episode is worse than the last, with the occaisonal semi-funny one. The wacky episodes were kinda lame, but I really enjoyed Mother Mae Eye. There were some funny lines in that one.
If the series ended with tonight's episode, i'd be fine with it.
i think this season brought a whole new light to beast boy, showing that he isn't a goofball 24/7 and that he can kick ass like the rest of them.
Definitly agree with everything you said Hyper Shad; though, I will say that I don't think if I will be exactly fine with the Titans being canceled after tonight's show but I do agree that it would be a fitting end seeing as how they won their toughest battle and uniting all Titans. I also can see how this could lead to something like a Titans Unlimited(doubt it but it could).
However, I don't agree with most people when they said it's started to lose it's edge before tonight's ep, but now I definitely don't agree and want to see more because tonight's show was awesome especially BB's gunho attitude and the Titans kicking tushy.
BTW, a new Titans ep will be on Miguzi at 4 P.M. EST on this Monday coming.
I'll be the first to admit there have been decent episodes in the past 3 seasons, but come on, the ending to series 3 and then 4 were total cop outs. The main stories are getting more and more ridiculous with more and liberties being taken.
Did you realise that there's a constant theme in Titans that when a Titan cannot beat their nemesis, to the point of not being able to lay a hand on them (all 5 Titans versus Terra = fail, Cyborg didn't lay a hand on Blood in any of the episodes before the finale where he had UPGRADED his body, Starfire being unable to defeat Blackfire until after she used the POWER UP GEM!!!!) and then the moment they power up... POW! They're defeated. The Titans don't (usually) power up, they just deus ex machina up a win.
It's ridiculous and just not fun anymore. At least Robin has NEVER bested Slade. That makes me smile, even if Slade's lack of motive doesn't.
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Did you realise that there's a constant theme in Titans that when a Titan cannot beat their nemesis, to the point of not being able to lay a hand on them (all 5 Titans versus Terra = fail, Cyborg didn't lay a hand on Blood in any of the episodes before the finale where he had UPGRADED his body, Starfire being unable to defeat Blackfire until after she used the POWER UP GEM!!!!) and then the moment they power up... POW! They're defeated. The Titans don't (usually) power up, they just deus ex machina up a win.
Starfire destroyed the gem, which was her target from the start of the fight. Cyborg was fighting hand-to-hand against Blood in Wavelength, and the Max7 upgrade was well after Blood.
Season 3's end does remain one of the worst deus ex machina's in history, but in retrospect, putting an end to the robo-angsting could only have been a good thing. A bad deus ex machina is an acceptable price for no more episodes like Sum of His Parts or Only Human...
Starfire destroyed the gem, which was her target from the start of the fight. Cyborg was fighting hand-to-hand against Blood in Wavelength
First off, he didn't hit Blood once at all in Wavelength, he got thoroughly beaten and any move Cyborg made was countered or evaded, which is why their fight in Titans East where they were fighting equally peeved me, Blood was UPGRADED, ie better than he was in Wavelength where he didn't break a sweat.
Also, Starfire needed to overpower Blackfire in order to break the jewel, they had a pretty intense little fight while she was powered up, so when you look at Sisters you can tell that Star can't hold her own against Black. I can accept that she went through the Tamaranian Puberty Power-Upgrade thing during season 2, but still, it was clear Blackfire was stronger without the jewel. With it Satr should have been annhilated, but instead won.
It just really, REALLY annoys me that they SUPER POWER the enemy when they're fighting on fair odds or if the odds are in favour of the heroes, but once the villain has the advantage they die. That's just not the way things go, once in a while it might happen, but it's a clich for Titans, if the villain gets the upper hand their opponent will suddenly win. Happened with Atlas, happened with Terra, happened with Blackfire, Blood, Trigon. Only Slade seems to be immune to this treatment and that's because he's badass and only ever fights Robin one-on-one.
I mean if you need any more proof on this, look at the fused Plasmus, Cinderblock and other thing thing. Any ep with any of those 3 including future appearances, they can barely handle one with the full 5. In Aftershock they deal with the 3 as one pretty easily with a member missing.
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and while everyone's mentioning Mother Mae Eye, I have to ask... Why did the Titans have the H.I.V.E FIVE's address (to send Mae Eye to) and, like... not have them thrown in jail or anything?
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I mean if you need any more proof on this, look at the fused Plasmus, Cinderblock and other thing thing. Any ep with any of those 3 including future appearances, they can barely handle one with the full 5. In Aftershock they deal with the 3 as one pretty easily with a member missing.
Plasmus has been kind of standing in for Dr. Light as Raven's punching bag since The End Part I...
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when you look at Sisters you can tell that Star can't hold her own against Black.
Only reason Blackfire seemed so powerful in Sisters was because she knew the weak spot on the probes. There was no fight between the sisters.
And let's please not think too hard about Mother Mae-Eye...
I missed the first ten minutes of today's episode on Miguzi, but I can honestly say that it's the best episode I've seen in a long time. I was almost ready to let go of the show, but this episode impressed me in a way I haven't seen since Aftershock.
Brief synopsis (Select To Read): Terra has apparently returned, but she's not the same at all: she has apparently lost her powers and all her memory of the time she spent with the Titans. Beast Boy attempts to restore things to the way they once were, but as the episode title tells us, "Thngs Change."
Suffice it to say, this is not a "silly epsidoe" like Mother Mae Eye. This is a classic.
This leaves me wanting more, but if it has to end, I'm glad that it ends with an episode like this.
This is quite old news to me also. And while I think this season is the weakest(it feels more like JLU than TT with the Brotherhood of Evil plot) I would still take a season 6 over the boring, derivative new CN mess such as Ben 10 or Robotboy.
JLU seems like it will be next on the chopping block judging by CN's stalling of airing the new episodes--or just airing episodes in general throughout the network. It seems that they feel that JLU is a failure because it is not attracting enough of the 6-11 crowd. =/
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the boring, derivative new CN mess such as Ben 10 or Robotboy.
Eh, I don't agree with you about Ben 10, but I do about Robotboy which seems too much like Nick's Teenage Robot.(which I'm not that crazy about in the first place.)
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It seems that they feel that JLU is a failure because it is not attracting enough of the 6-11 crowd. =/
Heh, that's sorta funny because, of all the cartoons CN makes, JLU is the most adult one on there so you would think they was aiming for a more mature audience with that one. Either way, how they could feel it was a failure even though it gets viewers(it's pretty popular ain't it) is beyond me.
and that's just a crime. I wont insult anyone by assuming JLU is an amazing well-written series, one look at Season 2 of U's finale proves that team shows fail in principal because to challange a collective of mega powered super heroes you need a stupidly obscene threat to test them. Yet, still, it's a decent set up and a highly entertaining show. It deserves at least some respect from Cartoon Network.
Toonami, in the UK, gets it though. We bought Season 5 almost as soon as it was available, 4 eps into the US, and no word on Titans 5 yet. It's clear which show is more popular here ^_^
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Heh, that's sorta funny because, of all the cartoons CN makes, JLU is the most adult one on there so you would think they was aiming for a more mature audience with that one. Either way, how they could feel it was a failure even though it gets viewers(it's pretty popular ain't it) is beyond me.
And it did get some decent ratings from the older/adult demo graphic, however CN wasn't looking for that target group when they produced the show. They were aiming for the 6-11/9-14 demo for the block since JL/JLU in the past were getting decent ratings in those groups and it made advertisers happy. However that ratings dropped tremendously for those age groups as time went by. And if a show that was expensive as JLU wasn't pulling in the right demos and making advertisers happy then the show gets the plug.
I doubt that after these new episodes of JLU airs in the US that we will see another season.
I'd only seen one episode of JLU in the time I had Cartoon Network, and that was that stupid "Dark Heart" one they kept playing over and over.
And I'd seen some of Teen Titans. It was a pretty cool show. And I'd complete this trip down memory lane if I was preocupied. So wot they sed.
I've never liked JLU. I thought it was pretty corny. And at first, I didn't like Teen Titans, but that show grew on me, unlike the former.
I have yet to judge on recent episodes, though, as I haven't seen them yet, though.
I admit I don't like JLU as much as the Batman's or the Superman's or even my fave, Batman Beyond, and part of the reason is because CN doesn't either show it or it's on pretty late and my parents take over the TV at that point, but so far, it's a generally decent show.
As for that latest Teen Titans episodes...well, I'm generally speechless. Speechless in that I'm not so sure what to make of that episode.
This is quite old news to me also. And while I think this season is the weakest(it feels more like JLU than TT with the Brotherhood of Evil plot) I would still take a season 6 over the boring, derivative new CN mess such as Ben 10 or Robotboy.
Agreed.
~Neo
Toonami, in the UK, gets it though. We bought Season 5 almost as soon as it was available, 4 eps into the US, and no word on Titans 5 yet. It's clear which show is more popular here ^_^
Well we only just got TT season 4. They will need something in the autumn. Probably.
Edit: DARN YOU QUICK POST.
I was never all that impressed with TT in the first place. It just never grabbed my attention and if it did, I was always too busy when it showed...
Just a quick update, it seems both TT and JLU may not be quite dead. Much of the article is speculative, but its a nice update nonetheless:
Hopefully, we'll get some more news on or around those dates.
Anyone else a fan of the Terra episodes? I actually hate Terra as a character, but I can't help but love the plotlines surrounding her.
Yeah, esepecially the one that don't have Slade heavily involved although the last one I didn't really care for cuz it was pretty sad. To think, I was so hoping Terra would be a character in the Battle Blitz game on the Titans' site.
That one was pointless and just flatout retarded.
BIGOTRY. *shot*
As for the show... I've seen it a couple times. It was alright. Nothing I'd watch over again. Nothing incredibly enjoyable, but it was tolerable when there was nothing else worth watching. If it ends, I'll suffer no great loss.
Or any real loss at all, for that matter.
Terra episodes would have been better if they didn't involve insane leaps of power, involving her beating all 5 at once and then getting beaten by the weakest member. ANY form of coherancy towards that whole "swallowed by the Earth and not killed" thing, she seemed suprised they hadn't died, what the hell? Slade having a motivation and The City not being completely empty when Terra sacrificed herself to save some it.
Bah, Ron Perlman is love. But I think I've seen 5 episodes of Teen Titans total. (Their origin story, the series premier and finale... that's about it.)
Personally, I'm rather upset to see JLU go. I thought the show had really pulled it through. Superman and Batman are already developed characters, so they tend to get the backdrop. (Though Batman seems to be in alot of episodes as the 'mentor' type character.) Each episode tends to be focused on 2-3 characters, I think it works very well.
Apparently, though. They're coming out with a "Legion of Superheroes" show or something-er-other. I know next to nothing, but we'll seeee.
And by the way, Reboot needs more episode simply to get a decent season finale. (Though the megabyte ending was cool, I'm sure SOMEONE remembers that Signature I had, I'd like to see something a bit more... uh... final? This whole 'hunt' saga sounds too cool, as well.)
Another show that got a crappy ending: Beast Machines/Beasties. (Beast Wars to you Americans.) Man, that whole Beast Machines arc sucked.
The Cybertron arc was Beast Machines for us Americans, too. Though more people have fonder memories of Beast Wars.
I meant Beast Wars in the sense that was the American title for Beasties. ^^()
Beasties was just better. Beast Machines killed all off all the funny characters (Inferno!) Waspinator, Rhinox and Silverbolt all came back very much out of character, and Megatron didn't feel right. (Blackarachnia, too. Cheetor had just developed... RatTrap, too.)
Optimus became too much of a galivanting hero, and less of an understanding, gentle, curious monkey-type which made me sad. (one of the things I love was that all the characters took on characteristics from their animals).
But um... this isn't about Mainframe cartoons.
I liked Beast Machines a lot. >_>
As I have learned from past experiences, if you spam a company enough with automated e-mails and printable letters, they will probably give in and do whatever you want. I know I would. 😛
It ended at 65? Seriously? Wow, that's my unlucky number. Hm, weird.
