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(@hiro0015)
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First, an explination, then a warning, then the link...

Okay, so I was surfing wikipedia for the meaning behind "American Pie" and decided to look at the symbolism in Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"... In the article was a link to a site that had played a cretain part of the song backwards and found what appears to be a satanic message...

I'm sure all of you are familliar with the rumor that one of the Beatles songs, also played backwards, says something about John Lennon being dead...This song is on the site too... I thought it was cool (different...), and decided to share it with you guys. Now, do I believe these were done on purpose? No...well, except for Pink Floyd's, Weird Al's, and ELO's...

Now the WARNING... The little Satanic references aren't big... 5 of 13 have them... And it's not something that will keep you up at night or anything (hopefully)... There's no "ALL HAIL SATAN...KILL ALL THE CHRISTIANS" kind of stuff.

So here's the link... I hope you like it as much as I did!

 
(@rico-underwood)
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Am I the only one who waited to show the reverse lyrics and didn't hear anything but gibberish?

~Rico

 
(@hiro0015)
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No...I didn't get it either... Pink Floyd, ELO, and Weird Al are the only ones I recognized right away...and that was because they were purposely...

Trust me, I don't believe any of this crap... This is just like the Bible Code (cryptic messages in the Bible, foretelling the Holocaust and other things), pure BS.

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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Am I the only one who waited to show the reverse lyrics and didn't hear anything but gibberish?


You weren't the only one. I found something like that and just listened to the music and didn't understand a word until I read the lyrics.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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I've seen this (and linked it here) before. =D

As for the gibberish, it really all depends on what you want to hear. It's like a Ink Blot test with sound. If you're listening for satanic messages, you're gonna hear them.

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This is just like the Bible Code (cryptic messages in the Bible, foretelling the Holocaust and other things), pure BS


I think its rate of being completely right lets it rest a few levels above BS, don't you think?

 
(@supershadow70)
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I found this website a while ago, and he didn't add anything for a while, so I stopped looking. It's a cool site though. I do believe some of it too. There is no way in blazing hot hell that Led Zeppelin didn't do
Stairway to Heaven purpose. I refuse to believe it. It's written write in the song lyrics. I believe they did that on purpose. That and Pink Floyd, and ELO, and The Beatles. Never knew Number 9 did that. Hmm.

 
(@Anonymous)
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I think its rate of being completely right lets it rest a few levels above BS, don't you think?

The ambiguity of it means it can be absolutely right about ANYTHING, so no.

 
(@nuchtos)
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Ooooooooooooold news. Like, seriously.

Like TTG said, most people only notice the 'Satanic' messages if you're actively listening to them, otherwise it's just garbled gibberish. Also, if you do notice an apparent message, it's more likely your mind receiving garbage information and trying to make sense of it by filling in the blanks and creating patterns that aren't really there that something put there intentionally. In short, the vast majority of cases of backwards 'Satanic' messages in songs are mere hearsay perpetuated by morally upright wankers who have no idea what Satanism actually is and merely want to disgrace rock music or popular music in general.

I had a site once that was dedicated to finding these kinds of things and also researching which were true and which were false (most of the deliberate ones were really, really obvious when listened to backwards and put there for entirely innocent reasons). It was quite interesting, but I lost the site. :(

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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Disney music is fun backwards.

 
(@hiro0015)
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Disney music is fun backwards.


So is the Chipmunks...played at 1/2 speed.

 
(@gt-koopa)
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I was trying to find the half speed chipmunk song mp3 going around the internet but I still can't find it. Instead I found -this- on Wikipedia:

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A live-action feature-length movie, loosely based on the early-1960s animated television series The Alvin Show, is reportedly in development by 20th Century Fox, featuring computer-animated Chipmunks and a live-action David Seville. It is scheduled to be released in theatres around 2006.


O_O This is news to me. Has anyone else heard about this?

 
(@divinedragoonkain)
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Zuh?! What the heck? That's awesome...

Live action movies with CG main characters seem to be getting popular now... Started with Garfield, then Narnia, now Transformers and the Chipmunks...

 
(@hiro0015)
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Zuh?! What the heck? That's awesome...

Live action movies with CG main characters seem to be getting popular now... Started with Garfield, then Narnia, now Transformers and the Chipmunks...


Um...Narnia didn't have a CG main character... The children were the leads... Unless you consider Gollum a main character too, then sure, I agree with you.

 
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NOOOOOOOOOOO @ The Chipmunks

What is next, the Bernstain Bears? OH GOD NO I JINXED IT

 
(@gt-koopa)
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Um...Narnia didn't have a CG main character... The children were the leads... Unless you consider Gollum a main character too, then sure, I agree with you.


Um...don't you mean Lord of the Rings?

 
(@Anonymous)
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No.
He's saying that the animals in Narnia weren't lead characters unless Gollum is in LotR.

 
(@hiro0015)
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Thank you Wonder

 
(@matthayter700)
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I remember about a year ago someone IRL showed me that site... after that I got a bit of an interest in backmasking trying to what certain words are backwards ect... and even looking towards music not mentioned on that site and playing it backwards out of curiosity...

Can anyone guess any examples of music not mentioned on that site that I played backwards? :D

Anyway I'd say the one in Stairway to Heaven is probably real. The words sounded very clear backwards (except maybe the "he'll give those with him 666" part) and when I tried doing that one with my own voice in Sound Recorder it came out quite differently... probably because I didn't use the heavy accenting that song used, and I guess that heavy accenting was put there to have the lyrics backmask more clearly...

Then there's the hints. The person who showed me that site pointed out that the lyrics outside that part of the song say "sometimes words have two meanings" and I noticed how rather than sticking with "yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on" they started off with "if there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, it's just a spring clean for the may queen" which was kinda suspicious, I think that's another example of them hinting that there was a subliminal message there... not to mention that that part made more sense backwards than forwards...

I'm not really a religious person so I don't really believe in god let alone satan, but I could probably imagine that was done to provoke the church... I think according to Christianity satan caused suffering in life by putting temptation in people's minds, so in that case satan was the cause of harm and according to that people who believe in yet worship satan are worshipping someone who brings them harm? Well that's of people who believe in it I guess...

Then there's "the people war beside me" in the next song which even though the words sound clear backwards I think it's coincidental. Well, it's much shorter, less suspicious forwards, and I tried that one in Sound Recorder with my own voice and it turned out about the same.

The others I didn't try in Sound Recorder but I didn't hear the "I shot John Lennon" one at all...

Personally I prefer the "congratulations you've just discovered the secret message" and "the music is reversible but time is not" ones myself because they are actually about the backmasking itself...

[Edited just a few minutes after first posting...]

 
(@divinedragoonkain)
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Aslan wasn't a lead? News to me.

 
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Jesus wasn't a lead? News to me.


Fixed.

 
(@steebay31)
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Well, this one song by The Fiery Furnaces has backwards lyrics which are supposed to go with the song.

Forwards.

Backwards

So the backwards lyrics put together with the forward lyrics are:

And if you ever need some hash or weed,
You won't be getting it here.
Just take a boat across the bumpy sea,
Go to Denmark, man oh it's to near to the
[Chorus]

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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Aslan wasn't a lead? News to me.


If I remember the book right, Aslan was a major character, but he wasn't a lead character. That honor belongs to the kids.

Back on topic, if all this about the backwards lyrics were true, wouldn't you be able to take the song itself, rewrite it backwards, and be able to get the supposed subliminal message?

 
(@divinedragoonkain)
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Well, by lead, I was thinking more of "main", even though now that I think about it, it's not right.

My logic still holds up about the movies, though. =/ Nitpickers...

 
(@matthayter700)
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wouldn't you be able to take the song itself, rewrite it backwards, and be able to get the supposed subliminal message?


Depends on what you mean. If I typed in something like "won demrala eb t'nod ,woregdeh ruoy ni eltsub a s'ereht fi" then it only vaguely resembles the message. (of the first song the first line forwards or last line backwards) Even if I typed in what I thought the words themselves meant backwards, then there's the other difference in accending, which helps it backmask the words more or less. I'm don't remember well but I think there were other factors but I know the accenting and some things not sounding perfectly reversed (Eg. Things not sounding backwards as would be suggested by reverse spelling) had more effect...

 
(@fexus)
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Now thats some neat stuff.

 
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