I... want hybrid back. I've always liked the look... ever since my rather short stay at Discapp. The ezclassic format is okay, but generic as hell.
BTW, the table transparancy... it lag. It lag baaaad. QUIT USING IT, PLEASE.
As for MFC 2... well, I don't have an opinion about it.
BTW, the table transparancy... it lag. It lag baaaad.
You people need to get with the times. It works fine on my computer.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a way to buy a fairly new computer. o.o
~Rico
It works on my great grandparents Windows 98, too.
Now you're getting silly. NOTHING runs 'great' on Win98, I used it for six years, compared the newer OS's like 2k and XP its about as stable as an ping pong ball on top of the effiel tower. It's much higher maintainance than 2k/XP.
~Rico
Awww... it makes me sad many hate the transparency. It's just too nifty to throw out... >.>
She's just saying that if we're so worried about load time then which format the board is in is probably the least of our worry's. Text loads MUCH faster than most other attributes of a webpage.
~Rico
That is correct. Text is usually one of the first bits to load up on your screen, especially on dial-up. Man, the days when I was on dialup here with the hybrid, and the days where ezBoard was being slow along with my connection, as soon as the text popped up, I just hit ESC to stop loading.
I didn't have all the pretty pictures, but I knew what I wanted to read and who to reply to and who I should look out for modding.
And even with high-end computers, it depends on the browser you're using. The transparency can just end up being a biatch. It's not really bandwidth lag that one experiences, it's more of a "framedrop" if you will, also to the point where sometimes the website doesn't want to recognize my mouse scroll. o.O
So, I vote to dump the see-thru. 😛
*jumps on the hybrid bandwagon*
I personally liked the hybrid format. It gave the forum a unique look that's rarely found on other boards. Not to mention it makes it easier to see if a thread has any new replies or not.
As far as loading time is concerned, when we had the hybrid format, the text loaded first and then the background and pictures.
If you change your Internet settings to prompt ActiveX controls 'so you're asked if you want to use them', you can simply deny the usage of the transparency (which is a major frame dropper). The tables come up as all black, but that actually makes it look better IMO.
Even so...I vote for hybrid. It's unique.
I don't know about 'better'. But it probably does load faster on slower systems. I don't have trouble in any case. I just pick hybrid because I'm a mod, has nothing to do with load times.
~Rico
Since Ultra just revealed that lovely secret about Active X, I don't see a reason to dump transparencies.
Using TR as an example for prettiness here, her connection can't handle the images around and she knows it, so she shut images off on her browser. If someone can't handle ActiveX thingers like transparencies and all the hooplah then why bother making their browser try to display it all? It's not as if this is the only place that uses these things, so a few simple clicks on that one person's part would be much easier than filing a formal complaint to every site on the web that uses ActiveX whatevermabobs.
I personally like them anyway. An opaque table covers up the background and a fully transparent one leads to illegible text.
Fixing Active X for one site is stupid, and it's definately not practical.
Yes, yes, we all know Active X is like the open world to spyware and all that other crap, but still, for those actually feel like enduring it, (or those that know how to have it on at the same time AND combat the negativities of it), it's a pain in the ass to turn it on and off just for one measely site.
Rule #1 of being a webmaster: make your website as user friendly as possible, and to most people, teh uber l33t graffix isn't friendly.
I haven't really had trouble with the forum in regards to the active X used. Maybe its just because my computer rocks. 
~Rico
Yeah, I've had no troubles either. But then again this is a brand spanking new laptop. Meh, personally why can't we go back to using forums like we did in the earlier years?
having been proved very wrong earlier in this thread, i vote for hybrid. i hadn't taken in account of being able to see who's posting, emoticons used and etc.
i suddenly feel rather unexperianced compared to the rest of the modding team now. ox; sorry 'bout that, i'll try harder.
Why would you need to keep toggling Active X, Jin? How will leaving it off wreck things?
It's simple Becca. You have a life. We don't. 
~Rico
Some sites use Active X on a regular basis. Some sites were made specifically with Active X in mind, and won't function properly.
I'm not one of those that go to those sites, especially since I'm on FireFox. Some people do. For those people, that wouldn't be practicle.
Well.. if we do switch back... (which looks quite probable) it should at least wait til after this theme... else it'll ruin it. o.o
I think if they can handle Active X somewhere else, they can handle it here. o_O Unless there's special secret.
It all depends on what the Active X is. It's not really a major problem (unless it's an older computer), it's just more of annoyance. The last thing I want is for my browsing to feel "frame skippy" and for my mouse scroll to magically not work. XP
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It's simple Becca. You have a life. We don't.
*laughs* at least you admit it? nah, i just restrict my internet time as i've too many forums/websites to visit per day.
I'm online 24/7, just have to break to eat, sleep, poop, and occasionally work so I don't get fired. 
~Rico
I think that MFC should be kept as-is right now, but MFC2 should also be kept. MFC would be used for topics that call for actual discussion, but MFC2 would be for the "game" topics or others that don't lend themselves to extensive discussion, like "What are you listening to?", The Fun Q&A Post", or "Photoexchange". That way, these topics wouldn't flood the MFC.
That's my opinion anyway.
If we get a flood of threads like that then the mods aren't doing their job. Those type of threads would either be stickies in MFcentral (If they catch on) or in SPA if people start to abuse 'em.
It's one or the other. If we keep the tabled layout we ditch MFC2 (And I mod the cesspool less and more grumpily ). Or we return to hybrid and keep MFC2 (And I stop dreading going into it ).
~Rico
Hmm... Come to think of it... even if we go to hybrid, do we really need to keep MFC2? When topics get big enough, they could get moved to the forum that would be the most appropriate to put them in. If it's a debate, it would go in Marble. If it's a game, it would go in SPA. As said before... once a topic goes to MFC2... it dies quite evilly. I think we could make do without a MFC2 altogether...
I do too.
Big topics -> MG or whatever
Games -> SPA
A select few -> MF Classics?
The only one I can't decide on is photoexchange. I guess it could be stickied.
Edit: Wait, what am I thinking? If the photoexchange is stickied in hybrid, it'd be huge.
What if the topic does not fit any of the forementioned categories and it becomes large enough (say an introduction or a tech problem)?
Where would it go when it DIES?
** thunder and lighting cue **
Well I'd imagine introductions would go to the SPA and tech problems..... maybe Gaming Academy.
As for Photoexchange, eesh..... that's a tough one. o.o Perhaps sticky it in the SPA? Or just put it in the SPA? I mean, though it's a huge topic, it doesn't have to be stickied.....
*ahem* That's a pretty good idea, I think. I guess I don't mind if Hybrid returns ^^;
~Shadowed Spirit Sage
Then it'd be stickied as a shadow topic in MFC with the bulk topic in either SPA or Marble.
And yea... photo exchange is more SPA material.
And yea... photo exchange is more SPA material.
I'd say "What are you listening to?" topics are more SPA material than that.
Out of all the forums sans MFC2 and MFC, the SPA is best suited for the photo exchange.
The "What are you listening to?" thread I made (in MFC1) was made when the hack just happened and we had no SPA.
Edit: But yeah, move either Listening to topic as well
Topics dying don't concern me, but there are plenty of topics here that don't belong anywhere else but here. Putting them in SPA wouldn't be appropriate and just because a topic is "large" or a "debate" doesn't mean it belongs in Marble. Marble is supposed to be for general stuff, not specific little things. That's why most "news" stuff that ends up in MFC stays here. Despite that, removing MFC2 completely is an interesting idea.
The way things are going, the MFC is practcally doubling as the Marble Garden at times, thanks to stupid people turning religious topics into political debates, and vice versa.
The only kind of topics that get large enough requiring a move are the debates, "what are you doing" type topics, and surveys.
I propose we go back to just having one message board and only one message board. TEH GOOD OL' DAYS!
And a message board for the RPer's. Don't want them cryin'. >XP
You mean YEU don't want to cry. We'll flood your board with crappy unthoughout dramaqueen posts that will make your EYES bleed with cliched plots and unimaginative characters. And BREASTFEEDING, oh god the breastfeeding.
~Rico
So I guess it can work both ways.
S'long as there's no hawt secks action, I'm all good. Wait... *remembers where he's at* Nevermind. ^^
Breastfeeding? I fail to see how the existance of only one forum cause breastfeeding. =
...It's the Japanese children in yellow raincoats! THEY'RE the masterminds of it all! The blood of fifty-four high-school girls shall flood the train stations! And the BREASTFEEDING! OH GOD, THE BREASTFEEDING!
Your daily serving of bad spam, courtesy of the Shoe. *paints a large M on the wall and bounces away laughing maniacally*
Breastfeeding? I fail to see how the existance of only one forum cause breastfeeding. =
I take it you haven't heard about the Harley Quinn breastfeeding incident.
