Hmm, anyone know where I can get an English copy for under 5? I'm too lazy to search.
Try Amazone. They have a Dvd and Video, You lazy bum you. 
Last time I checked Amazon they were out of stock of the Sonic OVA, although Ebay has it every now and again.
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Metal Sonic as a protagonist/Anti-Hero is just what we need
That's why we have Shadow. Metal works better as a soulless robot trying to take down Sonic to prove its superiority.
Also, have we had any confirmation that Iblis or Disaster is the name of the big magma creature? I know we've got the Iblis Trigger and the Flames of Disaster, but we haven't had anything official explaining any correlation.
Yes, I've said it many times. It is "Disaster". Iblis Trigger (supposedly Sonic)....well, I don't have info on it. I'm assuming it's very bad and it messes up the future or something. I DOUBT it has anything to do with Disaster. The Flames of Disaster has some connection with the Chaos Emeralds. Because, as stated earlier in this thread, Disaster is Blaze's world's version of Chaos (that's the educated assumption). Basically, the Iblis Trigger may or may not have anything to do with The Flames of Disaster.
You can state whatever you want mate, but you're just pulling it out of your ass until you actually back it up with something.
Were, NO ONE have proof that Diaster is from Blaze world. It's just a rumor for god sake. RUMOR! GOSSIP! MADE UP STUFF! And I do recall that Sega said that Silver was from the future to stop the ilbis trigger, which is suppose to be Sonic. Sega have not ONCE said that Diaster was from Blaze nor did they Blaze WILL appear OR ANY THING about the Chaos Emaralds OR the Sol Emaralds being connected to Diaster. (Im not 100% sure some stuff is correct. so any one is free to correct me if Im wrong) So lets drop it 'til we get some REAL INFO.
It makes a heck of a lot of sense, don't it? Chaos and Disaster? Course Matt's right; Disaster could still come from anywhere. And I kinda lost track about the official, unofficial stuff. Give me a fing break.
Well, it's been a while since I visited the sites with 100% info on them. It's a loooooong story, that proves that hip-hop will take over the world unless we kill them all. So, yeah, I have no idea (right now, anyway) about anything new. So quit harrassing me. My bro (he's 17) is out until the day after this post, and he usually does the harrassing. And the pricks from back over here at home.
Dustin E. is a total * sucking, mother f***er from the firey pits of Bin Laden. X2 if there's room for more.
What the fungus are you talking about?
How am I harassing you? I just said that it's not offical stuff. Chaos and Diaster do kinda make sense, but were not 100% sure if it true or not. And give ME a break because I could be wrong my self. And I WAS trying to help you from people before they point out that you wroung in a nasty way. But I end up makeing it worse. Sorry. 🙁 I'll stop posting in this thread before i make things worse. Spoilers (Select To Read): Sometimes I think I need to shut my mouth and stop putting my options here for good reasons. AND BEAN AND BARK WILL RULE THE WHORLD!
I've not been feeling very well lately. Pain is not the first thing you feel; it's paranoia.
How do you make spoilers? Those are cool!
Yuou click HTML,look on top of the screen and you should see posting tools. click that and you should see spoilers.
Disaster is to Chaos what Shadow is to Sonic, a recolour.
Except we don't know that the beast is called Disaster, and we don't know what function it plays. For all we know it could be a five-second appearance where it shows up to ask Eggman on a date.
We don't any thing 'sep Sivler is from the future to stop the Ilbis Trigger and Sonic is the so called trigger. so it's up to Silver to stop him. (I won't be surprised is this so called Diaster is the Trigger.) Other thean that, the rest of the game Is unknown.
We've seen Silver apparently fighting Disaster, we've seen Disaster hoisting a Skyscraper in the air. So we can pretty accurately guess he's (she's?) (at least kind of) a bad guy.
Double brackets!
Or maybe want blinded with anger from his past like Chaos, Gamer? ..Wait.. instead of playing Super Sonic we can play Super Sliver?
Or maybe want blinded with anger from his past like Chaos, Gamer?
Heh heh heh.....let me make a purposely non-canon skit right here concerning that....
Disaster: "ROOOOOOOOAAAAAARR!!!!"
Person: "Dave! What in God's name did you do to piss that thing off!?"
Dave: "I just threw a frickin' peanut at it!!!"
Tails: "Uh oh! This ancient book says that it's allergic to peanuts!"
Eggman: "Noooo! My plan is ruined! When that thing finds Allegra V, it'll get over it's allergic reaction! I'll get you for this, Sonic, even though I don't really hate you anymore! And I look more like my grandfather now! Kids at FAC are going to find it harder to draw me!"
Ya know, I might just have to make this into a comic or something, concerning the changes in next gen. The Eggman thing? Yeah. He doesn't actually hate Sonic anymore, at least that's what was at E3.
Super Silver.....nah....needs more chingy. Supah Silver, now that's a name! Super Sonic and Supah Silver battle Perfect Disaster! Gasp! (That'd be cool, actually)
I don't think Robotnik has ever hated Sonic (at least in the SegaSonic universe) - he's always been described as seeing Sonic as a rival, and having a great deal of respect for him.
ETA: I hope to god that the lava beast isn't named Disaster. Sega's had lame naming choices before, but this one would take the cake. Thankfully it's all just rumour at the moment.
Were, Stop watching Spounge Bob 
And Sonic and Shadow fighing togeter in there super form was done before. SUPER SLIVER all the way! And if Eggman think Sonic as a rival, why do he keep trying to kill him?
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I hope to god that the lava beast isn't named Disaster.
No, I like it. If Disaster is another dimension's version of Chaos, like many have speculated, it makes ofr an awesome name.
Besides all the good flaming names are taken.
Torch - Fantasic 4
Blaze - Mortal Kombat and Sonic
If "Disaster" is a one time boss its a fine name but if it appears again and again then maybe there should be a better name. Maybe Phobos? Anyone? No? Dust?
I like Phobos. Go John T.
I don't watch Sponge wuss.
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Blaze - Mortal Kombat and Sonic
Streets of Rage...
Oh yeah.
Apparently Mortal Kombat Blaze was going to be called Torch but that there Marvel owns the rights to the name. And they like to sue people for little things.
Sponge wuss?
Why not Molten or Voncano? I suck at names, so sue me.
The peanut thing was referring to the fact that I myself am allergic to peanuts. Thought it has been years since I have been in contact with one, it is all but gone.
"Phobos" means "fear", right? Chaos and "Fear"....that's good, but not as good as Chaos and Disaster. It's not patented. Greeks don't even know what "patent" means, so Phobos appears to be free game.
I still like Disaster more, though. It's the name of the monster so far, and it works for me.
Yum peanuts. That skit sounded like that ep. where spounge bob threw a peanut at the giant oyster. On Topic: I think Diaster should be named after a Voncaneo or Hades. or after that god that anchient romans thought ruled mars. I hade a book about the planets being ruled by roman gods. but it missing and it was ripped in the middle of the spine. And I normally know about this stuff.
It's called the "Iblis Trigger"....hmmm....Do you think Disaster should be named after a variation of "Devil" or something? Or maybe a fallen angel....those usually sound cool.
How about "Destruction"? Yeah...I like that....Destruction, the God of Chaos! Get it? It makes a lot o' sense.
Or how about George Bush?
Destruction... I like it. George Bush...no.
Phobos is the God of Fear. Or something like that. Yeah.
This has come a long way from Best Sonic Villian...
Did you know that the world Villian comes from the french word "Villan" meaning peasent?
Which is also where we get village, villagers, etc.
All we know about the "Iblis Trigger" so far is that Silver believes it is Sonic. What that actually means is anyones guess.
This is how I'm seeing it:
Iblis: The giant molten monster. Look up "iblis" on Wikipedia and it makes sense.
Iblis Trigger: Sonic. He [apparently] 'triggers' the [release of?] the Iblis (inadvertently, no doubt).
Flames of Disaster: Either the secret/key to releasing the Iblis (parts of the creature itself, composed of captured flame?), or a name given to the creature in ancient texts that Eggman has read (ala Chaos' moniker 'the God of Destruction'). I lean more towrds the latter.
We've discussed the first two terms a fair bit in the StH06 topic already.
Also, you forgot this: The Flames of Disaster are somehow connected to the Chaos Emeralds. So most likely this is a repeat of SA1.
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It's not patented. Greeks don't even know what "patent" means, so Phobos appears to be free game.
Are you referring to the ancient Greeks or is that an ethnic slam? (Just kidding, I know what you meant).
Also... what makes us all so sure that Silver believes Sonic is the "Iblis Trigger?" In the trailer, Silver makes reference to finding it, and then the scene cuts to Sonic. Obviously, there are some who would assume due to the way the video was edited/put together that Sonic is the Trigger, but what evidence do we have? Silver could be talking about anything.
-Jake
"Also, you forgot this: The Flames of Disaster are somehow connected to the Chaos Emeralds. So most likely this is a repeat of SA1."
I didn't forget it, as I rewatched the trailer to revise my memory of Eggman's "Flames of Disaster" speech. I just didn't think it was hugely relevant. But yeah, it's always definitely seemed very SA1-/-[Perfect]Chaos-y ^_^
"Also... what makes us all so sure that Silver believes Sonic is the "Iblis Trigger?"
Sega's said it. I forget who it was in particular, but that was what they were telling the press in pre-E3 showings of the trailer.
Silver thinks it's Sonic. This leads to a Silver boss fight, I'd bet money on it. And vice-versa. Then they might run. Then you fight Sonic/Silver AGAIN, this time for real. Then Silver's down, and then maybe Blaze will play a major role in these fights.
Yeah...I have no idea where we're going with this. This is the best Sonic Villain thing. I guess we're talking about bosses, and that's about the same.
We know Sonic's the Iblis Trigger because it's been mentioned in almost every post-E3 article written about the game.
A Silver vs. Sonic fight, hmm... now I REALLY wish Silver could use Telekinesis on enemies, though I'd settle for crushing Sonic with a truck "THIS IS FOR YOUR SLIGHT DECLINE IN QUALITY OVER THE YEARS!"
Let's just hope that Sonic and Silver don't have to do an early 1800's duel with guns. Sonic would be screwed. (He doesn't use guns, he's totally against it!)
As far as best Sonic villains go, I'd say Void. Classically, I'd say Robotnik of course
I never fully beat Shuffle. It was fun on my part, but never finished it.
Ditto. It go boring.
For me it just got hard. Ya know, now that I think about it, I could've beaten it, but the disc wouldn't work all of a sudden, and then the rest is history.
"now I REALLY wish Silver could use Telekinesis on enemies"
He can.
I can see it all now...
Obi-Wan: "Use the Force, Silver."
Silver: "But isn't the Force just like telekinesis?"
Obi-Wan: "Look, just do it and rip that robot in half, ok?"
There's bound to be more secrets in next gen.
Staying on topic, I have taken the liberty (and looked at Wiki) of labeling the strength of every "Final boss monster" so far. It goes from strongest to weakest:
Devil Doom
Chaos/Disaster(?)
Final Hazard
Final Hazard was the weakest, I know. He got beat by normal Shadow, so that means he's WEAK. They only went Super form cause Lizerd dude went into space, on the Eclipse cannon, and entering the atmosphere, and turning Super was the only way to defeat the Final Hazard. 'Nuff said.
How he heck can Wiki even say that Diaster is the secound weckest if no one played the game yet?
I think Wiki says nothing of the sort and he's just talking out his ass >.>
I don't even understand the reason he did it.
Ditto, WW. (Goes to Wiki to check)
WOuld you shut up, Wonder? My ass can't talk! Oh, and I did narrow this down. Wiki said that, and (as far as I know), this may be accurate. Accurate, but not quite right. Yeah, Disaster may be strongest.
Answer to WW: BECAUSE THIS IS BEST SONIC VILLAIN! STRONG = BEST!(?)
And besides, THAT'S ONLY FRICKIN' FOUR MONSTERS! SECOND STRONGEST DON'T MEAN CRAP! When more come, it will be narrowed down.
I'll post it right here....when I find it. (INTERMISSION)
