So is Blaze from another demension or a another time? Did Sonic Rush even happened? Why did Sega even put her in the 2006 game? It seems to cause even more problems for the already plothole ridden Sonic Adeventure storyline.
She might have been created for 06 and put into Rush while they were developing it, like Cream with Heroes/Sadv2. In the last bit I heard about Rivals many months ago, it supposedly revealed that Nega is a descendant of Eggman, so you could say that supports the future thing.
If you ask me, the storyline just isn't worth paying any thought to anymore. The plotholes will only continue to grow.
The anwser to this is simple.The handheld games have their own continuity different from the console games. In other words Rush and Rivals are not cannon with the consoles games just like the Game Gears games weren't cannon with the Genesis games.
Balderdash, I say. There's no proof of that.
Or you could go with my more farfetched theory, that the Blaze and Eggman Nega in Rush aren't the same Blaze and Eggman Nega seen in Sonic2k6 and Rivals respectively.
The Blaze and Eggman Nega in Rush came from another dimension's future.
The Blaze from 2k6 and the Eggman Nega in Rivals came from Sonic's dimension's future.
Now, I seriously doubt Sonic Team even imagined ever putting so much thought into this and I also seriously doubt that if we get an explanation this will be it, but I think it's good enough for us fans to settle with just that or nothing at all.
I call retcon.
^ Needs more Colbert.
I'm going with mistranslation really. Translating from Japanese (I presume) "Alternate Dimension"(Rush) to "Alternate Reality/Future Timeline" (S2K6) could be an easy thing to do.
The anwser to this is simple.The handheld games have their own continuity different from the console games. In other words Rush and Rivals are not cannon with the consoles games just like the Game Gears games weren't cannon with the Genesis games.
I used to think that too. But then later games will make it seem that the handhelds have cannonity. (my biggest example would be how knuckles got tricked by Robotnik/Eggman in Sonic 3 & then got tricked again in Sonic Triple Trouble, however later games prove that that is a -very- easy thing to do)
As for Sonic 1 Gen & GG, I believe the exclusive gg zones happened as well during the original Sonic 1 journey along with the original. (it would be just like a sidestory)
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The anwser to this is simple.The handheld games have their own continuity different from the console games. In other words Rush and Rivals are not cannon with the consoles games just like the Game Gears games weren't cannon with the Genesis games.
You could be correct if it wasn't for the fact that Rouge thought Chaos Gamma was Omega when she fist saw him in Sonic Battle; that proves that Sonic Battle takes place after Sonic Heroes and it is in line with the main continuity.
From there, Sonic Advance 3 definitely is canon since, because of the presence of Gemerl, it is connected with Battle which is connected to Heroes, and if Sadv3 is canon, then Sadv1 and 2 are also canon. I also believe that Rush is also canon; I also equally believe that Rivals is also canonical. However, I agree that the Game Gear games are not canon, though I've never extensively played any of them.
However, I agree that the Game Gear games are not canon, though I've never extensively played any of them.
And that's the main reason why people hate Game Gear games. They most likely never played them! Also, they say Sonic 1&2 GG had bad level design because they were too hard, and say Sonic Chaos & Sonic Triple Trouble have bad level design because they are too easy! Its one big contradiction. Also, I hate when people think the GBA Sonic Genesis was the S1 Game Gear version, thanks to that one stupid review. The Game Gear games also have memoriable music, some of which have been featured in the "main games." Plus Game Gear was the start of Nack/Fang, so that's greatness right there. I don't know how many times I have to go over these points.
I confess, the reason I don't count the GG games canon is because most fans I see don't believe they are; none is really my opinion. As far as Nack goes, I've never really seen his appeal, but then again, I don't think Metal is all that great either. (Hated the Metal race in SCD! *shudders*)
True, the Metal Sonic CD race is one of the greatest and infamous moments in the series, some say it is harder than the Metallic Madness boss itself.
I wouldn't go THAT far. (shudders at the thought of the Metallic Madness boss) I have a dang hard time with that thing. By the last hit, I'm always ringless.
I've only made it to the Metallic Madness boss once. In at least five years.
Yeah but that's just it. The Metallic Madness boss is easy because you can become invincible once you get hit by him. Now if the boss's "blades" didn't allow Sonic to go through them it would be another story. Or try the fight with no rings ala Sonic 1 Gen or 1&2 GG.
Infact, the only thing I would have trouble in MM3 is the bottomless pit and giant piston blocker. Still won't call it a bad level.
unless some kind of 'Chaos Control' happened with the Sol Emeralds [Sol Control?], which brought Blaze to 'our' dimension?
that's actually what I'm going to be possibly doing in a long-running [not for public eyes, lest they see my un-colored, paper-ripped story] comic strip I've been making (as a 'hobby')
Maybe they just don't consider Sonic Rush canon. Companies usually do that whenever a another company uses their series. Since Rush wasn't made by Sonic Team, they can just shrugged it.
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You could be correct if it wasn't for the fact that Rouge thought Chaos Gamma was Omega when she fist saw him in Sonic Battle; that proves that Sonic Battle takes place after Sonic Heroes and it is in line with the main continuity.
Well the thing about Sonic Battle,while it does reference Sonic Heroes is that it contradict itself later own. For example:
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SONIC: Haha! Things are finally getting exciting! Hmm... So that's the "Death Egg," huh? I can see why the old guy was so excited... That thing's huge!
That line make it sound like this the first time Sonic seen a Death Egg when in reality he has destroy twice already. That according to Knuckles saying that Chaos Zero only show up in times of great crisis( did anyone saw him during the events of SA2(outside 2 players mode),SH, Shadow or Sonic Next Gen? I mean those count like a time of great crisis right). Those things made me realize that Battle may not be canon with the console games and since it not canon then the rest of the Advance games are not cannon neither since as you say they are connected to to Battle.
Well, my thoughts are that Chaos surely showed up during those games (although I wouldn't say Heroes, that wasn't a "great crisis" IMO, the point is, he showed up somewhere where the heroes weren't and simply didn't impact on the story, so it wasn't needed to show him.
So many theories. It's mind boggling! Somebody make a timeline!
I think we need to kow which games are canon and not canon. If Sonic Rush is not canon, then everything makes sense. I also like the another dimension is different than the future timeline thing too. Man, why does Sonic Team keep going for these overly dramatic plots if there going to ignore plot points? You don't see story-driven games like MGS ignoring plot points to make one overly emtion or dramatic scene in one game.
If Sonic Team aren't even capable of doing that which they are supposed to do, ie decent games, how do you expect them to do decent storylines?
They keep acting like it. They keep trying to make these "deep", emotional storylines like Shadow and Sonic 2k6, yet fall flat on there face because of the numerous gigantic plotholes. You are right, though. If they can't make gameplay, well for a GAME, fun, why should I expect them to make a good story?
At the end of Silvers Story in the 2006 game Blaze tells Silver to transport her into another dimension in order to free their world of Iblis who of course is at the time sealed in Blaze.
That would suggest that although Blaze was at first from our dimension, she now exists in a seperate one. This different dimension is clearly the one that she refers to in Rush, the one with Eggman Nega. Also where she is a princess and a guardian of the Sol Emeralds (which may be a direct result from having "the Flames of Disaster" insider her.)
The problem arises with the whole lack of memeory anyone has for each other. This can be explained from the huge parodoxes 2006 had.
The end of Silvers story clearly took place as Blaze is in another dimension at the end of it. Yet it should not have done, at least twice over...
When Silver went into the future for the last time in his story, the princess had just died, and clearly Iblis had not been released when she did, though he is there in the future. In the altered timeline that existis at the end of Sonics story the Princess is alive and happy so again Iblis is not released, though he is there in the future. At the end of Shadows story the altered timeline is that Iblis is transformed into Solaris, thus it shoud be him, not Iblis that exisits in the future. Yet of course he does. And finally at the end of Last Story Iblis was never even created and infact none of 2006 happened.
Now I have no idea how the universe (read: Lazy story designers) fix paradoxes but wipping everyones memory seems to be the done thing. That happened with Blaze too. She was just still trapped in the other dimension when she had her mind wipe.
The problem with your theory P1 Pause is that in Sonic Rivals Eggman Nega confirms himself as a descendent of Eggman. Which would (should) mean that he comes from the same universe as Eggman. And that Silver has gone to the past to return him to his time.
So it could be that Blaze and co only think that they are from a different dimension but is in fact from the same dimension only far into the future.
Ah. Yet to play Rivals.
In that case... A wizard did it.
Hahahahah My head aches. I wouldn't playing S2k6 now just to see how BS the story is. lol It sounds like something straight out of DBZ, for real.
P1 Pause does have a point, later handhelds here released first before main console games have been known to be taken place after the main console games themselves, despite being released first. Like Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes.
It's so sad that Sonic, a game series that used to be soo simple to understand ("Bad guy! Get him!"), and even the most amazing plot twists came in the form of ("Wait, Eggman tricked me? Let's team up and kill him!")...
Is now drowning in plotholes...sorta ironic and totally NOT way-past-cool.
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SONIC: Haha! Things are finally getting exciting! Hmm... So that's the "Death Egg," huh? I can see why the old guy was so excited... That thing's huge!
That line make it sound like this the first time Sonic seen a Death Egg when in reality he has destroy twice already.
It depends on how you decide to interpret it. Just because Sonic's destroyed the Death Egg before, doesn't mean that the "Death Egg" used in Sonic Battle had to be similar to the one he'd destroyed. It could very well have been bigger (or different is some other way) while using the same name. Considering it had been destroyed previously, I'd think that it would have been different in some manner anyway.
Or it could be Sonic never dwelling on the past. "I never look back, I have no regrets." and all. But maybe it's a combination of the two. That seems likely.
