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(@shadowaldrius)
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I feel odd making a character discussion topic, but oh well. What do you think of Rouge the bat? Hilarious? Cool? Silly? Unecessary? Over-rated?

Personally, I like the character, she's a sweet-heart without being all "PRETTY UNICORNS AND RAINBOWS <3 <3 <3". And she's a bad girl without being unaccesable and anti-social.

 
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D FTW.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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D FTW.


Her cup size for the win?

As for Rouge...*shrugs* she's not my favorite character but I don't totally dislike her either. She's just...an extra character(she doesn't affect the main character, Sonic that much)and it wouldn't be a big loss if she was only used for cameo appearances or spin-off Sonic racing, fighting, etc. games.

Though what is up with Sega feeding the Rouge as a seductress fanon?

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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Rouge isn't a character. She's so much more: a jumbled mess of female stereotypes whose inconsistencies are concealed by cleverly engineered bodily distractions. This is the genius of Sega.

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Well I don't really like how at the end of SA2 she went "LOLZ NO MORE JEWELS FOR ME!" and then the whole point to Heroes and Battle is that she's hunting for more jewels... but uh... what else is inconsistent about her? o.O

I always thought it was neat that she was a confident female character in a series where the female characters are all second to the male characters, and serve really just as demographics. (Amy has gotten stronger and all, but it still seems to me that she's just there for female appeal.) Then again, I guess Rouge's original intent was as a rival for Knuckles.

 
(@dreamer-of-nights)
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Rouge isn't a character. She's so much more: a jumbled mess of female stereotypes whose inconsistencies are concealed by cleverly engineered bodily distractions. This is the genius of Sega.


It's not just Sega, Dirk. Allow me to show you exibit M and exibit L.

I think it's probably a Japanese thing about mysterious women and sex and it's connection to bats. o.o

EDIT: OMG! Mispellings corrected. o.o

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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But Exibit L is an ambigously effeminite male. o.o

No boobs!

 
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But Exibit L is an ambigously effeminite male. o.o


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I think it's probably a Japanese thing


There's nothing I can say about Rouge that won't make me sound like a sex-obsessed, stereotypical male. Her worth as a character is evident in her design. I guess the only thing I can put forth is that she's as close to a representation of 'the older woman' as they're going to be able to portray in the series without making her just another part of the scenery (read: Cream's Mum).

 
(@spiner-storm)
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*copied and pasted from 'who do you think is the worst character' thread*

ROUGE THE BAT.
Sexy seductress my arse. She didn't need to be introduced to the franchise in the first place when they had a very good character sitting in the back collecting dust, Nack the Weasel, otherwise known as Fang the Sniper. Just a pity that they couldn't use him, 'coz they needed to fill up the gaps for more female characters.

I wasn't particularly fond of her character from the beginning, nor I still am today.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts of her.

 
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But Exibit L is an ambigously effeminite male.


That would be because she's younger than exibit M. o.o

As for the topic, Rouge's role is that of the mysterious woman which plays for her own purposes: chaos emeralds, master emerald shards, Eggman's treasure, [censored], etc.

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Oh no, that's definetly a guy. Or it's a woman who's body is built like a man's... >___>;

 
(@dreamer-of-nights)
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It's probably the latter as I know exibit L is NOT a man.

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Weird, she even has man-hands. o.O and her fore-arms are big.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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Now, now, I know we live in the video game age of Bridget, Gackt-inspired characters, and the XY cast of Magna Carta But I assure you that Lilith is not a man.

Wait, have you ever played or heard of Darkstalkers or are you just fooling around?

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Nope, never heard of or played. No breasts, man-shoulders, and huge fore-arms and hands just scream MAN to me.

 
(@neoremington373)
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Rouge....eh...I don't hate her, I don't like her. Frankly, in general I don't really perfer anything over Sonic Adventure with the pure exception of Cream.
~Neo

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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I've never heard of a male succubus. Thus, Exhibit L is female by process of elimination.

(Acrio doesn't count.)

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Incubus! But considering that's a demon I might forgive the artistic designer for making a possible hot guy a female :P.

 
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Rouge to me is one sweetest characters there is, sure she's sweet on jewels, but she does have a good heart, does use {i]most of the time.

Besides that I'm huge Rouge Fan.

And she does care and worry about others besides herself

And that's what I like about her.

 
(@shadowaldrius)
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Not to undermine the mods/admins, but you really shouldn't post the images like that. S= Stretches the page,bandwith issues, etc.

ANYWAY! I wouldn't say she has a good heart, she may be sweet at times, and care about people like Shadow and Knuckles, she's way too strong to actually admit it.

One thing I thought that undermined her character in Shadow was the fact that all she does through the whole thing is work for the government, she may be a government agent but generally she doesn't exactly follow her orders word for word. >_0

 
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That's true, but she does know right from wrong

 
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bw1979: If I find you linking to pics in a topic again from another site that isn't your own, you will find you can't post for awhile.

 
(@superbowser102)
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Unecessary, and boring. The only reason why she was created was to have an opposite of Knuckles (or replica) for the Dark Quest in SA2. And maybe to have a character with oversized boobs.

 
(@jet-k)
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I don't mind Rouge. I thought she was pretty cool in SA2. I look forward to seeing what they do with her in future games. Though I do agree they should bring back Nack.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Here's a video that shows she is a golddigger with a good heart.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5EnogVsH8

 
(@sonic332)
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She gives me nightmares... ugh.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Oh man, I love Rouge. Even though she isn't on my top 5 favorites I love her as a story element. Not so sure why though, I just loved her government position job in SA2. And being the leader of TD was odd, but fitting. Then in SHtH she was alright I felt. I really like her as a character.

 
(@hopelessaddictions)
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Rouge is one of the fun characters to use in Sonic Adventure 2. I like that dive attack and crawling on the walls. It sure beats Tails and Eggman in their walker vehicles.

 
(@sonic332)
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I'd beg to differ...

Mech or no, Tails is better than Rouge ANY day.

 
(@abac-child)
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rouge is just a waste of time for sega they should have her die off and have nack replace her

 
(@sonic332)
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So true.

 
(@sonicv2)
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Imagines if Nack was in SA2

After Knuckles and Nack fight

Knuckles & Nack: Stop fooling around and give me back MY emerald!
Nack: What are you babbling about? And you call yourself a treasure hunter, attacking someome who can't fight? Shame on you.
Knuckles: What kind of weakling, with a stupid tooth poking out, goes around stealing gems anyway.
Nack: DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY TOOTH!! Those emeralds belongs to me!
Nack walks up to Knuckles, but he slips and falls
Nack: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH.......
Nack falls in the lava and burns away. The Emerald shards he had flew to Knuckles.
Knuckles: Finally, but, maybe I should have help saved him.
............... NAH! What an idiotic sucker! Now if it was babe with bust I would have. HAHA!
Knuckles walks away.

WHAT?

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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Lol. XD

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Well, I like Rouge. She is the Catwoman to Knuckles's Batman. Kinda, without the whole Government spy thing though.

But in ye olde days of when Sonic Team brought in a new character to change the way you would play a level Rouge would have been a nice mix of Knuckles and Tails. Glides but can gain height. Wall Climb to Ceiling climb. But while she is Temporary Knuckles/Tails clone she wont be anything special in gameplay terms. :(

And the Sonic Adventure 2 Breastage has been toned down. In the days of puberty hit teenager i would have been saddened by that but now it at least she looks proportioned.

 
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She was different from both Knuckles & Tails in Sonic Battle so I believe they can make her different in any game if they want. I can't speak for any other game because I haven't played any Sonic console game since SA2 where she was a Knux clone.

 
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Rouge was alright I guess. She does add some more mature looks to the game of course =P which... is alright? Another female character to even out the male to female ratio. Personally, my fav female is blaze.

 
(@sonic332)
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Well, I think Amy's hilarious- she's one of the few Sonic characters as neurotic as I am!

(although, it's not exactly the same as HER neurosis, but I AM quite looney:cuckoo )

I just don't like ANYTHING about Rouge.
And I WASN'T kidding when I said she gives me nightmares.

Dang. I AM crazy!:^^;

 
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You can't be crazy. Crazy people don't know they're crazy, or they deny it.

 
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Although she started as a Knuckles clone in Sonic Adventure 2, she has "transformed" into more of a Tails clone in Sonic Heroes. In Sonic Riders, she uses the same shortcuts as Tails, Wave, and the mysterious flying character that you get after you clear the missions. Interesting enough, in Sonic Battle, Rouge played more like a Sonic clone than Amy (who's supposed to be the "Sonic clone" in the games).

As I stated before, Rouge is an interesting character: I would not write her off because she's like a female Nack. As stated in previous replies and other topics, Rouge has a sense of justice despite her obsession with the Chaos emeralds and/or the Master emerald.

It's rather interesting that Rouge is to Shadow as Tails is to Sonic: they work best together than separate. In my opinion, I like her character but not as a main character. Like Shadow, she works best in the sidelines, affecting the outcome of the main characters.

 
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In terms of gameplay - as has already been stated - Rouge seems like a mix of characters with already existing abilities within the canon.

But as a personality, I like her a lot. She deviates from the usual Sonic cast template quite a bit, between the fact that she's visibly older than everyone else and she's genuinely mercenary, rather than having black and white morals.

 
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It's funny because everything about Rouge says she's older (Especially her new 4Kids smokes-five-packs-a-day voice) But She's in the same age group as Sonic and Kuckles are =/

 
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Approximate group, perhaps - but being 18 still makes her two years older and pushes her into the "adult" bracket. 🙂

 
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Nope she is 17 according to the Sonic Heroes manual.

To quote Craig from some other thread: She's not old enough to enter her own strip club. :D

 
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She's 18 according to her profile on Sonic Channel. I'll take the Japanese age given over the one in the manual.

 
(@sonic332)
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In reply to WW the Hedgehog:

Nope, not all of us!:spin Revenge of the Spin Attack Smiley...

Actually, if you want my diagnosis to look it up, here it is: Asperger's Syndrome (a mild form of Autism) and the most severe case of ADHD my psychiatrist has ever seen.

Wait... maybe the latter explains why I like Sonic so much!!!:]

 
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It's funny because everything about Rouge says she's older (Especially her new 4Kids smokes-five-packs-a-day voice) But She's in the same age group as Sonic and Kuckles are =/


Blame that on misenterpreation on 4Kids's fault. They have honestly said that they didn't know her real age until after they hired her voice actor, likewise they didn't listen to the japaneese voice and likes to use stereotypical voices for their characters. Too late to change the voice perhaps? Can't change character's voices in the middle of a series? Pah. That hasn't stopped them before. Take Vector for example. His good season 2 voice was "debarked" for his today's season 3 voice. Now we hear that season 3 voice of his in the games ever since Shadow the Hedgehog.

Remember, this is the dubbing company that likes to licence anime thats based on games yet never plays the games themselves, resulting in ??? name changes and the like. That's how Rouge's english voice was changed from a 17 year old to a 45 year old.

 
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Well, I don't know what 17 year olds sound like where you people live, but I have never heard one with a voice like rouge's old voice actor.

 
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General voice actor thing alert!
Its wierd but for the voices 4Kids have got right from Team Minella they got all the voices that were right from Team Minella wrong. Seriously.

Also WW, When they smoke they do. Silly Rouge copying Solid Snake. Should have just got a mullet.

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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I'm talking about the voice from before 4Kids. 17 year olds don't sound like that.

 
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Should have just got a mullet.


Bu she does! =O

 
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