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do u think it's time for a new sonic the hedgehog movie?

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(@sonic-fan-53)
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with certain games being released such as Mario and sonic at the winter Olympics and sonic and Sega all stars racing i think the sonic world may be slowing down alittle too much without the regular story oriented games so i thought i was about time sega made an other sonic movie i CG but what do u guys think of this?

 
(@Anonymous)
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No.

 
(@gammarallyson)
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Absolutely Not!

There's no market for it. Oh right, for the few outspoken Sonic fan might think otherwise, but how well did the first movie did in reality?

While Sonic isn't in any REAL jeopardy of going under (yet) no studio at this time, nor in the foreseeable future would take that financial risk... Except Uwe Boll. He'll probably be gamed to further drive the nail on Sonic! XD;

 
(@questern)
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If by movie you mean another Night of the Werehog, then sure. That was pretty awesome. But if you mean another Sonic anime movie, then no, for the above reasons.

 
(@legionfan44_1722586498)
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Yes we need a Sonic DTV movie, NO to a theatrical movie! Segas dameged our blue friend enough We do not need Hollywood to slaughter him! Personally I would love to see a sonic Rush OVA or A DTV based on the Archieverses greatest sonic stories, kinda like what Marvel & DC are doing!

But no hollywood hollywood already mutulated Street fighter, Resident Evil, Doom, Tomb Raider, Super Mario Bros.. When will it end hollywood WHEN!!!!

 
(@Anonymous)
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But no hollywood hollywood already mutulated Street fighter

H-wood didn't just mutilate Street Fighter, it broke it into millions of tiny pieces and then broke those millions of tiny pieces into a million MORE tiny pieces. Ah well, at least Jean-Claude Van Damme was handso--- err, mildly amusing in that so-called 'movie'.

lolololololololololololololololololol etc.

 
(@veckums)
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That movie's existence is justified just for the scene with the Bison bucks.

 
(@Anonymous)
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That movie's existence is justified just for the scene with the Bison bucks.

No arguments there, I guess.

 
(@nelstone)
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I'm all for the shorts like NotW, but if movie-long plots may as well be used for the games.

 
(@sonic-fan-53)
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well as much as i enjoyed the night of the werehog short, i found it to be with out substance meaning consistency in the story. i am aware of Hollywood's tendency to twist aspects of characters like the recent "dragonball evolution". i was merely hoping that in the occurrence of the night of the werehog movie, that sega would perhaps make a full length movie in CGI as square enix did for final fantasy 7 and as capcom did for resident evil but i suppose it's just one fans opinion

 
(@lwsrocks)
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I have like, even made up my own Sonic CGI movie ideas based on the Sonic the Hedgehog comics. I would love to see one if they made one.

I don't think they could exactly "butcher" Sonic with a movie. I don't really understand how they would do that.

But what the heck is "Night of the Werehog"?

 
(@gammarallyson)
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I don't think they could exactly "butcher" Sonic with a movie. I don't really understand how they would do that.

The same way they do with the games. Not giving a damn!

 
(@Anonymous)
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I don't think they could exactly "butcher" Sonic with a movie. I don't really understand how they would do that.

The same way they do with the games. Not giving a damn!

This.

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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I have not seen it, but it is my understanding that "Night of the Werehog" was an animated short created using the Unleashed graphics as part of the game's promotion.

 
(@gammarallyson)
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I have not seen it, but it is my understanding that "Night of the Werehog" was an animated short created using the Unleashed graphics as part of the game's promotion.

Correct! It was basically a promotional thing that was surprisingly enjoyable.

Here is the short in question!

 
(@matthayter700)
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with certain games being released such as Mario and sonic at the winter Olympics and sonic and Sega all stars racing i think the sonic world may be slowing down alittle too much without the regular story oriented games so i thought i was about time sega made an other sonic movie i CG but what do u guys think of this?

Who says it has to be made by Sega? Couldn't it be fanmade, sort of like how we have fanmade Sonic games such as SRB2?

 
(@nukeallthewhales_1722027993)
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I would like sega to invest monies into a multi-million Hollywood style film only for them to collapse so that the sonic ip can be hopefully sold to a competent video game developer.

 
(@swanson)
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Except that a CGI movie requires tons of money and most fans don;t have tons of money. Plus we know what Sonic fans think a good movie is.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Plus we know what Sonic fans think a good movie is.

Tobey Maguire as Sonic and Alfred Molina as Dr Robotnik? I'm taking it Spider-Man 2 influenced that dude's decisions. lol

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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Except that a CGI movie requires tons of money and most fans don;t have tons of money.

I think you underestimate what a competent 3-D artist can produce with a high-end PC and FOSS(Blender comes to mind).

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Not really. I wouldn't want to see any new animated media. I'd rather play a half decent Sonic game again.

Mind you if it was done by Blur Studio I would watch it. And then cry as Sonic turns into a human in the ending.

 
(@matthayter700)
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Except that a CGI movie requires tons of money and most fans don;t have tons of money.

But would it necessarily even have to be CGI though? It could be animated some other way. Or perhaps not even necessarily animated; maybe edited from old game/cartoon clips, sort of like with youtube poop...

 
(@mprower)
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I'd be all for a new sonic movie, especially since the highly questionable "Sonic Anime" is all we've got so far. In fact, there IS a fan made movie in the works, which would definitely be better.

 
(@robobotnik)
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As someone who really likes the old anime OVA/movie I'd be happy for a sequel, though I doubt it'd happen or be as good (well, what I liked about it probably wouldn't be there).

I did enjoy NotW but Sega has gotten pretty good with CGi lately, so another short like that would be great, maybe go over the old games stories with the same silent treatment.

As for Hollywood? Well...I saw The Legend of Chun Li recently, and if you know my opinions on Dragonball Evolution, The Spirit, and of cause, Transformers 2 then you'll know what I mean when I say that I wouldn't trust Hollywood with making anything game or cartoon related again.

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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Which is why some development studious are foregoing Hollywood and making the movie themselves. The newly-revealed Assassin's Creed movie(s) come to mind.

This topic reminds me of what's happening with Ape Escape lately. Such travesty.

 
(@mprower)
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Honestly, for sonic, I'd prefer a 2-D animated movie as opposed to CGI. I love CGI, I just feel it works better for the video games. SatAM comes to mind as a good example of animators doing Sonic justice...

 
(@mprower)
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Sad news... I just learned that the "fan film" I mentioned earlier comes courtesy of our "old pal" Rich Kuta. What a bummer...

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Yeah, I was so disappointed! I was all psyched about a Sonic movie...

Personally, I think a Sonic film, if written well, could do alot for raising Sonic's popularity meter rather than do damage to him. It would be a risk that I would be willing to take if I was in charge of it all...

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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This topic reminds me of what's happening with Ape Escape lately. Such travesty.

I can't really tell if this looks better or worse than Saru-Getchu on Air

Odd that we have another thread on a Sonic movie here already. Also I have to agree with the majority here, in that no, there shouldn't be a dang Sonic movie. I rather Sega spent the money and time on focusing on learning to make good Sonic games.

 
(@sonic-fan-53)
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at this point i do believe that sega's experiments with different gameplay is over with the coming of sonic and the black knight not to mention sonic's moves in sonic unleashed(not werehog stages). in my opinion the CGI cutscenes in the games are great like for example opening cutscenes of shadow the hedgehog, sonic unleashed and sonic and the black knight show you great action to start off the game, in my opinion, i think that sega can make a great movie if they try. i wouldn't mind an animated movie either but it seems sonic has grown past those days so i'm not sure

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Sure, right now, a Sonic is sort of a niche market, but my theory is that a Sonic theatrical film could generate new fans with a commercial that describes the plot enough.

4 years ago, I had this friend who was a big Sonic fan, and I always thought Sonic was dumb. Then I got bored. I said, hey what the heck, I got nothin to do why dont I try a game. I got addicted, then read up on the plot and comics. Then bought a few action figures, then bought a few games, then came here, now look at me. I am a total Sonic fan.

So I think if people would stop dissing the whole fast-running, tall blue hedgehog concept (and start dissing that fat italian plumber) Sonic could be popular again like he was in the 90's. Maybe if Sega started making decent games again, like in the 90's...

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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at this point i do believe that sega's experiments with different gameplay is over with the coming of sonic and the black knight not to mention sonic's moves in sonic unleashed(not werehog stages).

Wanna bet?

LWSrocks wrote:


Sure, right now, a Sonic is sort of a niche market, but my theory is that a Sonic theatrical film could generate new fans with a commercial that describes the plot enough.

First off, I wouldn't call the 6-12 year old video game demographic niche. Second, as for Sonic gaining popularity through some cartoon, screw that noise! That'll only further cements Sonic as being thought of on the same level as any shovelware based on TV, movies, toy line, and books. Sonic is a video game character while other form of media was created to promote the video games. I rather have Sonic gaining his former glory with everyone through great games instead of through some movie, which causes the audience to lap up more mediocre game because of the character.

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Well I still would like to see a Sonic movie one day, no matter what you say.

I don't think all Sonic games are MEANT for 6-12 year olds. Explain that kiss, between Sonic and that princess person. Yeah, that's definitely for 6 year olds!

And the movie was DEFINITELY aimed for TEENS.

 
(@Anonymous)
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that princess person.

You referring to Sally?

And the movie was DEFINITELY aimed for TEENS.

What movie?

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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I don't think all Sonic games are MEANT for 6-12 year olds. Explain that kiss, between Sonic and that princess person. Yeah, that's definitely for 6 year olds!

I have seen a few animated series targeting the 8-12 demographic that contained large amounts of romance and even featured a few on-screen deaths(and did not sugarcoat it). Of course, these are based on Japanese concepts of what is age appropriate, and as a general rule, the Japanese are not nearly as uptight as Americans regarding content ratings.

The movie was DEFINITELY aimed for TEENS.

The Sonic OAV struck me as being well cemented in the shounen category, so pre-teens are probably the heart of its target audience.

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Have you watched in the DVD release? Because the video release and youtube video is CENSORED and alot of parts are edited. You can see what was edited out if you check it out on Wikipedia.

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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I watched it via the bilingual, soft-subbed .ogm file that made its rounds during the early days of bittorrent. As for what Wikipedia says was edited out of the original US release sounds fairly mild considering what has happened to some anime that have been edited for US audiences.

 
(@lwsrocks)
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well, it also bluntly says on wikipedia "This movie was originally geared for teens" while im sure there HAS been worse content.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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You mean the same wikipedia that anyone can edit?

There is nothing in the OAV that makes it inappropriate for young children.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Especially not in Japan, where views of what's appropriate for children aren't quite so narrow and uptight.

The OAV was made for the same target demographic as the games, which is the 6-12 bracket. Different countries just view the demographic differently.

 
(@lwsrocks)
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If you don't believe wikipedia buy it on DVD and see for yourself!

Look, some things on Wikipedia, just have no reason to be edited falsely.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Socks, I do own it on DVD, and have done since the original release. I own it uncut and with both English and subtitled Japanese dialogue, and there was plenty of publicity about any changes made at the time it was released.

I'm not saying that I don't believe you - just that I disagree with you, and why.

And I admire your faith in human nature - I really do - but on the 'net just as anywhere in life, just because there's no reason for people to do something malicious doesn't mean that they won't. I know people who've put false information on there all the time.

Not that it even has to be malicious. You say that there's no reason to put up false information there, but what if the person posting it didn't check their facts or honestly believes what they're saying. For example, in the way that you're disregarding what we're telling you now.

 
(@mprower)
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Socks, I do own it on DVD, and have done since the original release. I own it uncut and with both English and subtitled Japanese dialogue, and there was plenty of publicity about any changes made at the time it was released.

A while back, I bought the Sonic OVA on DVD, but I'm pretty sure it's been edited. I've heard the uncut version is 90 minutes long, but my copy is only 60 minutes. Not only that, but it was released by ADVkids 0_o. If yours is different, who was it released by? I can't go watching an edited version, I just can't.

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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While I find Wikipedia, Wikia, and several other websites that consist primarily of user-submitted information to be invaluable resources, it does not change the fact that inaccurate information is posted, sometimes deliberately, sometimes purely due to the poster being misinformed on the issue.

Besides, I do not think anyone here doubts that the Sonic Anime was censored for US release, as such was extremely common throughout the 1990s and into the 2000s. What is doubted, are the claims that the it was always intended for a teenage audience, especially considering how lenient the Japanese are compared to Americans on the issue of censorship.

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Fine, I GIVE IT UP! You were right, I was wrong. There. You won, happy now?

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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A while back, I bought the Sonic OVA on DVD, but I'm pretty sure it's been edited. I've heard the uncut version is 90 minutes long, but my copy is only 60 minutes. Not only that, but it was released by ADVkids 0_o. If yours is different, who was it released by? I can't go watching an edited version, I just can't.

The OAVs when it was released in Japan consisted of two seperate tapes that were 30 minutes long each. When ADV got the English rights, they released both episodes on one tape and later, DVD as Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie, hence it being 60 minues sound right. I don't know where you got that 90 minute figure from.

 
(@samanfur-the-fox)
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Fine, I GIVE IT UP! You were right, I was wrong. There. You won, happy now?


*SIGH*

Socks, you've been told multiple times now by multiple people that somebody pointing out that you're wrong about something isn't about one-upmanship - it's called a learning experience and being fallible. Again, for someone who was making a big deal a few posts ago about how things should be accurate, you take these things awfully personally.

The only person thinking of it in those terms is you. Lighten up.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Fine, I GIVE IT UP! You were right, I was wrong. There. You won, happy now?


*SIGH*

Socks, you've been told multiple times now by multiple people that somebody pointing out that you're wrong about something isn't about one-upmanship - it's called a learning experience and being fallible. Again, for someone who was making a big deal a few posts ago about how things should be accurate, you take these things awfully personally.

The only person thinking of it in those terms is you. Lighten up.

Amen to THAT!

 
(@mprower)
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A while back, I bought the Sonic OVA on DVD, but I'm pretty sure it's been edited. I've heard the uncut version is 90 minutes long, but my copy is only 60 minutes. Not only that, but it was released by ADVkids 0_o. If yours is different, who was it released by? I can't go watching an edited version, I just can't.

The OAVs when it was released in Japan consisted of two seperate tapes that were 30 minutes long each. When ADV got the English rights, they released both episodes on one tape and later, DVD as Sonic the Hedgehog: The Movie, hence it being 60 minues sound right. I don't know where you got that 90 minute figure from.

Thank you for the info, Ashide ^_^. Yeah, I don't quite remember where I got the 90 mins. figure from, but I guess that doesn't matter now. (embaressed o_o)
QUOTE: " I didn't make it all the way through third grade for nothin'!"

 
(@lwsrocks)
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Yeah... I was thinking maybe the 90 minutes would count any bonus features? Eh, it was probably just an error :/

 
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