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(@nytlocthehedgehog)
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Okay, Chaos Emeralds are the main symbol of power in the Sonic Universe. One, if focused correctly, can greatly increase your abilities, perhaps even threefold. Six can blow a gaping hole in the moon.

What gets me, is how fragile and easily breakable these things apparently are.

The Master Emerald, if hit by Knuckles or Chaos, shatters instantly into, what, twenty plus pieces?

Robotnik, even with his vast army of robotics, was capable of cracking two or three(sp?) into five pieces each.

I don't know just what the point of this topic is, but don't you find it rather odd that the extreme components of power in the universe can be so easily shattered?

~Nytloc Penumbral Lightkeeper

 
(@Anonymous)
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They've been shot all over the place through different dimensions and even shot through space hurtling as fast as the speed of light in Sonic X without damage.

What makes you think the chaos emeralds can be shattered? o.O

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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This does raise an interesting point, though. Why exactly is the most powerful of all the emeralds THAT much more fragile compared to the rest?... The Chaos Emeralds go flying everywhere and you don't see THEM shattering into a billion-trillion shards.

 
(@very-crazy-penguin_1722585704)
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Eggman shatters the Chaos Emeralds into shards in Sonic Battle. And doesn't G Sonic's plot involve a Chaos Emerald getting shattered into pieces?

Anyway, I don't think it odd at all. It's the magic energy that's powerful, not the physical crystals.

 
(@sonicknight)
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The Master Emerald, if hit by Knuckles or Chaos, shatters instantly into, what, twenty plus pieces?


Well, its not that strange.
diamonds are strong and used in the tip of giant drills for their amazing strength they can withstand a huge amount of pressure yet fire is it's only weakness.
a simple match can easily melt it.
and like knuckles proved, the emerald can recover it's original form anytime, can't really call it a weakness.

 
(@harley-quinn-hyenaholic)
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Yeah, the Emeralds must be under tremendous pressure anyway what with all the power they contain. So shattering them wouldn't be so difficult. And their power is never destroyed.

In Fleetway, Dr Zachary destroys the Master Emerald, but Knuckles makes a new one and channels the power into it. I'm not going through the story here...

But then, the Master Emerald was destroyed - permanently - and he had to get a new one. It wasn't the Emerald that was special, it was what it contained.

 
(@tornadot)
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I would have sworn the mystic energy of the emerald would have held it together...I dunno...or maybe they are just a temporary vessel for the power within and that is why it's fragile...I probably don't even know what I'm talking about.

 
(@wraith-the-echidna)
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Maybe it's BECAUSE the emeralds are so powerful that they're fragile. You know, the power contained within them is blasting away and weakening them somehow.

Wraith

 
(@miss-puar)
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I'm not sure if I can phrase this well, but I'm guessing that the emeralds are strong against potential energy (the energy inside them is dormant, so it doesn't bother them at all) but weak against kinetic energy (Eggman uses his fist and presto! they're crushed).

 
(@dopefish)
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Maybe the energy within is pushing out with such great force that it's, say, 10x the pressure being exerted on it from the outside, so when it's hit from the outside, it takes the smallest of instabilities to shatter and send its shards flying.

 
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I don't understand why that, when the Emeralds do shatter, the energy within them doesn't just all disperse outwards. When the Emeralds are reformed, they're still filled with the power within them... I'm just abit curious why it doesn't all just float away.

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Perhaps the power transfers itself into each individual shard.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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There's no real certainty to the emeralds, they just are. Don't think about it. Their entire existance is creditted to "they fell from the sky"

and while we're at it, don't forget GUN have been syphoning energy into Chaos Shards to power their robots.

 
(@sonicknight)
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I don't understand why that, when the Emeralds do shatter, the energy within them doesn't just all disperse outwards

:) i guess the chaos emeralds take a solid form of energy. besides, like sonic if you want to use the chaos power you have to fuse with it somehow.

 
(@the-growler)
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I've forgotten how to do spoiler writing - I want to comment on the last series of Sonic X about the Master Emerald.

 
(@da-muthalovin-jman)
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Well, its not that strange.
diamonds are strong and used in the tip of giant drills for their amazing strength they can withstand a huge amount of pressure yet fire is it's only weakness.
a simple match can easily melt it.


A match couldn't melt a diamond, you nutcase. If that were true then the heat generated from the friction of using them as drill tips means they'd last like 5 seconds.

All of this is a moot point though, considering diamonds and emeralds ar far from the same thing.

 
(@sonicknight)
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if you want better detail you could have asked.
diamonds turn into Graphite when you burn them (and yes, a match, a simple fire can turn diamonds into cheap graphite).
about the drills. well duh:rolleyes everyone knows you need water to drill.

the reason why i compared a diamond with the emerald is because:
1- they both have power and uses
2- they are both expansive
3- they both have easy weaknesses

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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I've forgotten how to do spoiler writing - I want to comment on the last series of Sonic X about the Master Emerald.


With HTML formatting only:

<spoilers>Text here</spoilers>:

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(@da-muthalovin-jman)
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if you want better detail you could have asked.
diamonds turn into Graphite when you burn them (and yes, a match, a simple fire can turn diamonds into cheap graphite).
about the drills. well duh everyone knows you need water to drill.


You're acting as if there'd be a puff of smoke and boom, instant graphite. Not only would it take ages because it's an extremely slow reaction, but a match would not be hot enough by a long shot to cause the reaction.

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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Actually, Prof. Gerald created chaos drives, by channeling the chaos emeralds' infinate power into crystal tubes, thus creating power for his beta ULF: The Biolizard.

Next thing we know, we find GUN ROBOTS using them in SA2.

How can this come to be?

We must remember the GUN attack on the ARK. We can assume that GUN agents STOLE the chaos drives and their "formula" from Prof. Gerald in the ARK, before he was assasinated.

And, remember, that at the end of SA, GUN had posession over the Chaos EMERALDS. They could have used the time to create new chaos drives, to power their robots.

Anyway...

EE

 
(@sonicknight)
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You're acting as if there'd be a puff of smoke and boom, instant graphite. Not only would it take ages because it's an extremely slow reaction, but a match would not be hot enough by a long shot to cause the reaction.


it won't take a lot of time, all you need is to exceed the limit barrier it's very easy. in fact, if you put a match under a diamond you'll see a black spot <that's the graphite>.
that's why water is used to cool the drills, to prevent it from going over it's heat limit. although with a match it will take time to turn the whole diamond<if we're talking about a big one> into graphite. but the fact i was going for was, how easily something strong and valuable can be effected by a match.

I hope I explained it better this time. im sorry I was very brief:read I dont like to explain things. I was hoping youd get it on your own.

 
(@the-growler)
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thanks! 🙂

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my memory's a bit sketchy, but I remember Knuckles needed to use an EXTREME amount of power from the Master Emerald on the very last episode (I think). Because the strain on the shell was that great, it started splitting apart and eventually collapsed on itself - but even then, the Master Emeralds power was still there, but just in chunks of what was left of the emerald
 
(@shadowglass)
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As far as I can figure, Knuckles can smash the Emerald because he is the guardian. He has a connection to the Master Emerald in the same way that Tikal had. If he can command it to change shape and size, then he can easily command it to temporarily split.

The chaos emeralds though, are a tougher deal to explain. The best I can come up with are these explanations:

1) The are incredibly tough, but they have weak points. As a scientist, Dr. Eggman could study them until he finds one. That's how you cut Diamonds, the toughest mineral on earth. You have to hit them along "fracture" lines, natural stress points in the gem.

2) As someone else pointed out, no one said that they were strong. They're just power sources. For all we know, they're actually hollow. Also, remember that though they can be split, they can be just as easily rejoined, which is equally surprising. Most Earth gems don't work that way,

 
(@abac-child)
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I think something with so much power should be almost industructible because all that power stored in them should make them very very strong.

 
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