IGN has confirmed a separate project for Nintendo Revolution is in production. The link confirming this is below.
I would really recommend a change of title for this thread.
Nothing seems to be confirmed really other than 'A' Sonic game is going to be made using the Revolution. Which really isn't surprising. Except for people praying that the PS3/Xbox 360 Sonic the Hedgehog game was coming onto Revolution.
Yeah, nothing is completely confirmed yet especially the fact that Sonic Next-Gen could still be ported to the Rev, and it better be because then...then...*sigh*I'm gonna have to get a Rev and a 360/PS3.
I thought that new Sonic game would be on all three of the new systems? Did I miss something?
Yeah, Jet, as of now there has never been any indication that Sonic Next-Gen would be on the Rev, of course, there has never been any indication that it won't be on the Rev either. If you go to the JPN site of Next-Gen, it just has the names of 360 and PS3 and the same goes for Sonic Central.
This silence could either mean it won't be on the Rev, or it means that Nintendo don't want it reveiled because then it would give people and ideal of what the Rev graphics look like which right now seems like something Nintendo doesn't want known.
There's nothing wrong with his topic title. It's true that Sega is making a seperate game for the Revolution that takes advantage of its very unique conrtoller. So why not report on it on the forum?
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There's nothing wrong with his topic title.
Au contraire. "IGN confirms separate project for Nintendo Revolution." is INCREDIBLY vague; it could mean tons of things. I had expected, when coming into it, that it involved Nintendo more than Sega and that it had been posted in the wrong forum.
Unless you mean "IGN confirms separate Sonic project for Revolution.", in which case, that's because I edited it. 😉
A tiny bit of hope is coming back to me for 3D Sonic games. I am super worried that the PS3 and 360 versions will just be more of the same, just prettier. But if the Revolution controller is used to steer Sonic as he runs, then that could make for pin point accuaracy at high speeds. But looking back at the last 4 3D games and how they have progressed, control will be even sloppier.
This would be exciting if Sonic Team wasn't involved with this. So far they have a higher miss to hit ratio with thier games--or at least the non-PSO ones.
Seriously, I have to wonder how are they going to make this Sonic game work when they can't even perfect the controlling scheme of Sonic games that are controlled using a regular controller.
Well lets be honest here. We have only seen part of one stage of Sonic Next Gen. So lets not judge it on about 5 minutes of demo footage.
I really dont know what Sonic could actually do with the whole Revolution tilt thing and the whole new secret thing Miyamoto was talking about. Pin point accuracy when Sonic is running sounds a bit fiddly.
Pin-point accuracy? To me, that sounds like it will be harder to get used to than switching from arrow buttons to the joystick. The Rev's controller sounds cool and all, but I hope they offer more... traditional ones too. I don't think I'd be able to play the new Sonic game if it was controlled by waving around a stick with buttons on it.
Don't worry Jet...the Rev will have a Wavebird like attachment for those of you who are too scared to give the new controller a decent test drive first 😛
The fact that Sega hasn't announced Sonic Next-Gen for the Rev might come from the fact that the Rev doesn't even have an official name yet...
January 19, 2006 - Sources close to SEGA have told IGN Revolution that the developer is working on a new entry into the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise for Nintendo's next generation console. The title, purportedly developed by a "top-tier" SEGA team led by Yuji Naka, will not be a port of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game tentatively dubbed "Sonic the Hedgehog [next gen]." Instead, say insiders, it is an entirely original effort designed from the ground up to take advantage of Revolution's unique controller. No further details are available at this time.
Okay, it isn't a port. Am I the only one who READ this?
Yeah...I'm not arguing that Sega isn't releasing a NEW/Different Sonic game for Rev...that doesn't mean they won't also try and port SNG to the Rev...Two games=Twice the profit...
Until SEGA says something, I'm not buying this rumor at all and am not listenig to IGN (Who insulted Shadow The Hedgehog) , I highly doubt that SEGA will develop a Revolution exclusive considering that SEGA has never annouced any projects on Revolution.
This is just another bogus rumor for fanboys, Yes if SEGA does support Revolution it will most likely be a port not an entirely different Sonic game.
Much like the Sonic R Xtreme rumor which turned out to be a totally diffent Sonic racing game, not a Sonic R 2 or a rehash, This rumor may turn out to be not what you think and could be a(probably not)a new sonic game for a new SEGA console(Yes, I believe SEGA may come back to the hardware market soon, They are testing new arcade technology.)
A LOT of people insulted Shadow the Hedgehog...
To be honest, I love the game but even I agree it's not a great game... It's a repeat, a remake and average, but it's easier to look past it's flaws than it was in Heroes and it does offer some unique ideas and fun replayability...
The game critics didn't want an average retread, they wanted original greatness...
But that's an issue for another day. Back to the discussion, ahem... IGN isn't alone for disliking Shadow.
Hiro: on that logic that would mean that Sonic Revolution would also go on Xbox 360 and PS3. ahhhhh.
Pat: There is a lot to insult Shadow about. Oh you mean the game not the character. I thought it wasnt that bad really. I mean there are better games but I thought it wasn't as bad some people said.
Can I just say that *if* the Revolution is as significantly down on power to Xbox360 / PS3 as some people say it might be would'nt it be better to develop a game utilising the controller rather than to make a half assed port from consoles with better graphics to a console with lower graphics? Like when they made a half assed port to a superior console? (had to be said)
There was a Sonic R Xtreme rumour? Are sure that wasn't the Sonic Riders press release which used the word: eXtreme? Also Sega won't make a new console for a long time. The console market isnt big enough for three conpetitors let alone four. Lets put it like this apparently VF5 is a battling ground between Microsoft and Sony at the moment becuase it is very popular with Japan. Why would Sega waste an opportunity to make more money on the game than it normally would.
Cool 
now I have a reason to buy a Rev. Sure a few months after the game is released it will on PS3(like CAPCOM RE4)but I wanna try the Rev controller in it. Speaking of it I wonder how the Rev controller will work with a Sonic style game? Will Sonic have some kind of weapon to swing around? Guess we will have to till May's E3.
While the idea wouldn't work well as a full game, moving Sonic left and right and jumping by moving the controller in the corresponding directions as he's hurtling down a hazard-laden path (running automatically) could figure into it. Rev's controller could have a laser sight attachment (great for FPS games).. it could be used for more precise movement in controlling Sonic in running and dodging stuff (sounds like Rush's special stage now I think of it). Food for thought at any rate.
What I'd really like to see the Rev's controller do is give us more control over spin attacks (standard rolling, spin dash, aerial attacks). Not the actual twirling around in a circle, but the direction of the moves. Sonic's all about bashing bots as a spiny blue ball, and I think that's something that needs to be emphasised more, and given more impact. The Homing Attack in particular has been more like a Mario-ish jump-on-enemy's-head move, a bit wussified, as of late - I want to feel "Ha, Sonic's so awesome" again when I obliterate a metal machine by smashing my body through it 
For some reason, I've always loved the idea of being able to spin continuously without losing momentum (the Sonic movie/OAV has a bit to do with it, the shape he is when he's rolling along the ground, Sonic looks like he could push himself along as he spins, maintaining speed). That could be fun to control with the Revolution controller, and perhaps even be better response wise, because he'd move 'where' your hand moves, at the speed of that movement, instead of shooting off into a wall or corer as you try to bring him back around to hit an enemy you went past.
Also, though I don't know how it could effectively be implemented - as it'd be hard to hit enemies moving so fast - but I'd love the Light Speed Attack to be controllable. The thought of swinging my arm to bring Sonic crashing through tons of enemies is too cool.
The revolution controller is the remote one with all the possible attachments right?
Big's Fishing '06 anyone?
Look into your heart...you know it to be true.....
CyberKnux brings up a lot of interesting points about gameplay on the Revolution, and I think they would make for fun game sections, as long as they didn't run on rails or anything.
Also, the lightspeed thing sounds awesome, and with Bullet-time, it could be incredibly possible.
And GT, that was the first thing I though of when I saw and heard about the controller 😛
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Big's Fishing '06 anyone?
We know Neo would love see that.
Yes John, I know alot of game critics hated Shadow The Hedgehog I liked it. I'm not a Shadow fanatic I'm a Miles fan, I commend SEGA for coming up with something different but aparrently they don't.
As for Sonic on REv, it's not inconcievable but a exclusive is highly unlikely, a port is possible though, because people don't really know much about Revolution and alot of 3rd party developers have little interest in it.
As for SEGA coming back to the home console market I stand behind this because, development costs are going up, technology is more expensive and demand is too high, with Xbox 360 and PS3 at $400 a machine and an oversaturation of FPS,annoying console ports, and hundreds of movie licensed titles I feel that if SEGA doesn't do something that the U.S. market will crash like it did in 1984. I don't support Nintendo because: 1. They're losing alot of money on Gamecube. 2.They are failing to meet forcasted earnings on the DS despite strong worldwide sales. 3. Poor 3rd party support. and 4. The Revolution sounds like Nintendo is taking way too many chances that are way too risky and could be fatal considering having to support five hardware machines.
I believe the Revolution could end up like the Virtual Boy(Sorry for being harsh) meaning although it's sounds like a good idea on paper and looks interesting, it's probably not really a very great idea and probably too novel no matter how you look at it.
Getting back to SEGA, I believe that they could still come back because it's been 5 years now, and the industry market share is already falling in the U.S. and in Japan SEGA's New "LindBergh" aracade machines have gained notoriety there considering that SEGA hasn't made a new arcade machine since "Naomi 2" back in 2000, yes VF5 could and will come to the PS3 and 360, but SEGA could still be making thier own new console.
I thought we banned you from Nintendo!Ranting.
You thought wrong.
Sometimes I wonder if it should, though.
Shadow would have been a good parody of the games industry. Look we have guns and cars and swearing! But the sad thing is that they released it. I do like the Shadow game. I just think it would be better as a parody.
VF5 has been confirmed for PS3 according to EGM (I think). No announcement yet from Sega.
Coughs: Sega Arcade Boards
Anyway. I have just thought of a good use of the revolution remote with Sonic. You know in the inevitable Flying Super Sonic V Mega Ultra Boss Of Doom. Anolog Stick moves you forwards and the tilting moving you up and down.
Sorry guys, but I just can let him get away with all the bad things he is saying...
*cracks his knuckles*
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because people don't really know much about Revolution and alot of 3rd party developers have little interest in it.
Now, I'm going to refer you to a site that I know you hate because of how they rated ShTH Pat, but just read what some of Japan's biggest developers have to say about the Rev here... Here's a separate article confirming THQ is on board, one confirming Ubisoft is working on Rev games, EA 's support for Nintendo, and Capcom's support. Here's an article where Atari's Founder praises the Revolution.
Pat, I don't want you to feel completely alone, so here's an article where someone actually agrees with you... Actually he's a lot like you...
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admits that he has not yet played with the revolutionary aspect of Nintendo's new console. "I cannot comment on the Revolution's controller until I try one," he states.
Now it's that special time for me to rip apart the piliars of your anti-Nintendo faith...
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don't support Nintendo because: 1. They're losing alot of money on Gamecube.
?...Where have you heard that one from, duder? Even if that is true, do you realize that Sony and Microsoft are loosing money on their systems as well? The 360 cost atleast $100 more to make than they are selling it for...Do you know how any video game company really makes it's money...software! Also, that's your reason for not liking Nintendo...they don't make money!?! What do you care!?! Unless you have stocks in that company, you shouldn't worry about their finacial situation...
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2.They are failing to meet forcasted earnings on the DS despite strong worldwide sales.
Provide me a source for this tasty news tidbit, O'Lord of the Sales Records...What were they forcasting, 100 million units!?!
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3. Poor 3rd party support.
What are you smoking!?! (and where did you get it...I'd like some too ) Seriously...Nintendo has finally healed its relationship with Square-Enix, Sega and Nintendo are acting like reunited lovers...How can you say something like this?
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4. The Revolution sounds like Nintendo is taking way too many chances that are way too risky and could be fatal considering having to support five hardware machines.
Like the risky move Sony took when it launched the Playstaion on its own...If it weren't for people who were willing to take risky moves, we'd all still be playing pong on computers that were the size of entire rooms! Supporting 5 machines? I can only think of four...DS, GameCube, GBA, and Rev...Are you including the GBA Micro? That's the same hardware as the GBA (or GBA SP...), just in a smaller package...And if you add in the fact that the DS is backwards compatable with all the GBA games and that the Revolution will be backwards compatible with GameCube discs...that narrows down the list to just 2 systems...Unless of course you are talking about the Rev's Virtual Console, which would add the N64, SNES, and the NES to the Rev, guess that would raise your original total to 8 systems...
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Getting back to SEGA ...blah blah blah...US market failing...
Sooo...SEGA joining back in on this will help...how? "There ain't enough room in this town for the both of us pilgram...One of us has got to go..." There is no way the game industry in the US can stand 4 different consoles...We would have a crash! Don't get me wrong, Sega has great games, but they just don't have the ability to sell their consoles like they used to. Let's look at Nintendo's failed systems...Virtual Boy, N64 (to some degree), and (since I know you'll add this, even though it isn't so much a failure) the GameCube...Sega has the Saturn, Dreamcast (it had a huge head start on the other systems, and it still failed...), 32x, Sega CD....that's a lot of big flops...
Anything else you'd like me to strike down for you, Patrick?
Hiro, trying to convince Pat that Nintendo has had any success post-SNES is like trying to convince a one-legged horse to disguise itself as a man and enter the Olympic High Jump. Pretty much impossible.
Most of us just ignore him now. It's really not worth your time. He has his crazy 'Sega's-gonna-make-consoles-again Nintendo's-gonna-crash-and-burn' world and we have the real world, where Miyamoto is not a Snorks fan.
Thank you for the good laugh Allik...I know it's stupid to try to make Pat understand...but I had fun looking up all the info and tearing him down, word by word...In the future, I'll try to restrain myself...But it's so gosh-darn fun! "So Easy to Do, No Wonder It's #1!" TM...
*Smiles at above*
I just had the horrible realization that this my be one of those super collections of a ton of minigames like Wario Ware or Feel the Magic (which is a Sonic Team game). What a dissapointment that would be!
Would I get in trouble if I called Pat L. a delusional Sega-tard? Because reading all of his similar-sounding, unfounded, and biased rants makes him even sadder than those psycho Nintendo fanboys that usually hang out on the IGN and GameFAQ boards. Seriously Pat, you are becoming(or argueably at the point) like the very people you despise.
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2.They are failing to meet forcasted earnings on the DS despite strong worldwide sales.
And by failing, if you mean that it became the fastest selling gaming unit in Japan that Ninitendo had to appologize for the lack of stock because the handheld was sold out in Japan, then yes the have failed.
Ok, even I'm (pleasantly) shocked and stunned that the Nintendo DS is kicking PSP butt on a 2.5-1 scale. I mean, I'm far from complaining, but the way gaming mags and shows are treating it, you'd think the PSP had already won this mini-war.
*Checks Japanese sales figures*
HOLY CARP!!! If DS games are outselling Kingdom Hearts 2 3 days after it's release... the world is a completely different place than I had believed it *cowers from the strange new world*
Check Gaming Academy, SH, I beat you by a good few hours 
I just had the horrible realization that this my be one of those super collections of a ton of minigames like Wario Ware or Feel the Magic (which is a Sonic Team game). What a dissapointment that would be!
Feel The Magic was great. Whatchu talkin 'bout. o.o
Well worth $30 IMO.
And this means I'm a buy a Revo with my PS3. Oh well, there goes College.
*looks at Craig's sales figures*
GameCube outsold the 360!
*dies laughing*
What makes me sad is that the console to game ratio in Japan for the 360 is 0.9. People are buying the console without any games.
What makes me sadder is that you can't buy a Euro/US 360 but in Japan theres at least a million of them...on shelves.
I like Feel the Magic! It was my first DS game... *gets sentimental* What I'm saying is -that- kind of game, though it will most likely be a good one, is not what Sega needs to do to start on a new system.
About the whole Xbox in Japan thing...
There's no real reason behind it, but no one in Japan seems interested in Microsoft gaming consoles. Maybe it's the games themselves. At E3, the Halo 2 both took hours of waiting to see anything. At the Tokyo Game Show, the booth was practically empty. Maybe it's the sheer size of the Xbox and Xbox 360. The miniture sized Gamcube and sleek sideways form of the PS2 and even better, PS T.W.O., are easier to fit into smaller spaces. People in Japan usually have very tiny homes, unlike those of us in the US and most of Europe.
As for the low game sales, everybody knows Xbox Live Arcade's where all the fun's at. Why, they just released Marble Blast Ultra this week, and it is good. Let's not forget that Street Fighter 2 is on its way (again), too, and that many, many big companies are REALLY taking to the thing... and that you can't buy a single one of these games from a store, only the Xbox Live Marketplace.
And to add even more to the low game sales, 360 doesn't have a "must have" title...yet... I love my Nintendos...but when Halo 3 comes out...Lets just say the guys in my dorm aren't going to be getting much sleep...
The problem is Microsoft doesn't quite understand that Japan has a totally different culture than the U.S. They DON'T like FPS's. They like RPG's, dating sims, horse racing sims, fighting games, and badly done anime licensed games. X-Box will NEVER sell in Japan until they learn to lean towards thier tastes.
I'm gonna be fair and ignore the rant on Nintendo from Pat, however there is one part which I have a response to.
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As for Sonic on REv, it's not inconcievable but a exclusive is highly unlikely, a port is possible though, because people don't really know much about Revolution and alot of 3rd party developers have little interest in it.
I think that SEGA making a Sonic game on the Revolution has much higher chances of it being an original title than just a port of the 360 and PS3 game, mainly because of the hardware provided. If you think about it, the new controls offer so much more to be explored by other companies than the standard pad provides, while Sonic really isn't the kind of game that I think needs to do this, there are many things (including those suggested here) that they could do to add to the standard Sonic gameplay. Also, when you consider that the Revolution is going to have a lot less power graphically it seems pointless to port a game with so much more power onto a weaker machine, it's more likely that they'll do the same thing with Tomb Raider: Legends if they do release the same game, by that I mean creating the same game for a lower powered system simultaniously rather than just porting the game. Still I'd both prefer and believe that a Revolution title would be original for the console.
Eh?
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it's not inconcievable
Oh hell no.
This is good news, atleast the Revolution is getting a Sonic game. Now I can but a Revolution with no worries. Only thing is...when will it come out holiday season or something, I doubt they've been working on it that long.
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The problem is Microsoft doesn't quite understand that Japan has a totally different culture than the U.S. They DON'T like FPS's. They like RPG's, dating sims, horse racing sims, fighting games, and badly done anime licensed games. X-Box will NEVER sell in Japan until they learn to lean towards thier tastes.
You forgot to add 'non-games' on that list.
The X360 does have RPGs coming such as Blue Dragron, 99 Nights, and Lost Odessey. The problem is that they're not launch titles. I would talk about more on this subject but this is not the topic to do so. BACK TO THE TOPIC!
See. This is why I can't wait until March, at GDC 2006 the REAL accurate truth will come to this rumor that currently only IGN supports.
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See. This is why I can't wait until March, at GDC 2006 the REAL accurate truth will come to this rumor that currently only IGN supports.
Wait, WHAT? None of that made any sense. What rumour, first of all?
The "rumour" which is the subject of this topic, Sonic for the Revolution.
Pat seems to have abandoned his previous tirade so it's more of a "ok, enough about me, back to the topic please?"
I wouldn't really get to excited about March, Pat; the real truth will probably be revealed at E3 in May(when all about the Rev will be revealed), if even then.
E3 in May(when all about the Rev will be revealed)
You mean like Nintendo's been saying about the last TWO E3s?
