WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA somebody talk to meeeeeee....Anybody....... ...who knows Knuckles

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Let's talk about how bishonen he is!!!1 lol etc

I've always liked Knuckles. But, as many others also express, he's not the guy he used to be.

Today's Knuckles has some good qualities, and I had no problems with him at all in SA1 - and he was pretty interesting in Sonic Battle, too (his interaction with Emerl provided some quality laughs for one thing). However he's feeling a little.. 'empty' these days.

My personal bothers with him are concerning his purpose, his persona and his appearance.

As would be expected, he was probably worst in Sonic Heroes, where he had no purpose apart from supplying Team Sonic's muscle. I'm all for him having a break from obsessing over the Master Emerald - I definitely don't want him picking up shards for the rest of his life - but some form of explanation for his being somewhere/doing something would be very welcome indeed.
In Heroes for example, it could have been expressed that Eggman had issued a personal warning to Knuckles, saying that once he's conquered the planet, Angel Island would be next (equate that to Metal Sonic needing Knux's data. Not that, you know - we saw him show anything from it, but.. um.. that's my momma!..). Knuckles hid the ME and took off to catch up with Sonic and Tails and prevent Eggman's plan from coming to fruition.
I have no qualms with Knux being out and about (I'm all for it - he needs to have some fun ) - I just want him to have a reason for it.

Closely tied to his purpose is his expressed persona. In Heroes, he's basically reduced to a powerful doofus. First time I heard the likes of "We're not going there, are we?!", I did laugh - but he can't just be there to argue with Sonic and make his blue ally/rival come off as more extreme or full of attitude by comparison. I'm not exactly sure of why else he came off so - well, dumb - in Heroes, but he did, at least in my mind. Where's the Knuckles with spunk - a bit of a firey streak? I think he needs to be passionate about something - have a purpose - to actually be the Knux we know and love.
Also, I don't mind Knuckles being naiive (it's part of his charm, big buff serious and mature guy with that humorous little weakness), but it's overused now to get him to do Eggman's bidding. Don't get rid of this character trait, but let someone else put one over on him - Sonic, perhaps - as a little bit of comic relief, or somesuch.

As for his appearance, more recently, his model has been looking a bit off - slightly unbalanced (though he's always had his cool freaky big hands, and the usual big Sonic character head on a smallish body) and snub-nosed, with poorly modelled hands/gloves (in Heroes, his actual hands are getting a bit too long when not clenched into a fist, I reckon, and the spikes have some annoying clipping thing going on where they connect to the rest of the glove).
Additionally, his eye shape has also been bothering me a little bit these days (it's looking a bit more squareish than the 45-degrees-turned diamond shape he's kinda supposed to have, which made him look a bit more.. devious, or something).

Yes, I'm very picky, I know ^^; I'm just eager for Knuckles to have a bit more life breathed back into him.

Knuckles is more mature than Sonic - he's got a sense of responsibility (as he should have!), but he's not a boring stick-in-the-mud, completely uninterested in fun or the wilder side of adventure. Remember the quote "Knuckles is one wild and powerful echinda" from the SA1 instruction manual? Let him liven up a bit. He's powerful and is quick to anger sometimes, and has a couple of weaknesses (endearing ones that add some depth to his character; navet and girls), but he's not stupid. His past concerning his people is another interesting facet as well.

Knux has a lot going for him - they just need to be careful and steer back on course a little to avoid him becoming too much a shadow of his former self.

Knuckles rox, but I, his older brother Wraith, am cooler.

I hear what you say about his Persona etc CyberKnux. Yeah, just what was he doing in that plane with Tails? It's made even more annoying that the other characters, like Shadow or Chaotix etc had plenty of reason to be there. Dang, even Cream's involvement in the story was explained better than Knux's!

I suppose you could argue that since he's got closer to Sonic and Tails now he doesn't really need much explaining, but I do agree they've gone too far and left out too many details.

They always did it so well in S3&K

As far as his model is concerned though, I kinda like his new model. I'm not one for noticing details...I'll have to go back and check his eye slant etc again...but just off the top of my head he looked fine to me, even (dare I say it) cooler than he did in the older games (must be about the only character who looks better now than they used to).

I think the main problem is that they're kinda forgetting him...focusing too much on the other characters and forgetting to add to Knux. It's a major shame, since he is without doubt the absolute coolest char in the entire Sonic universe!

Wraith

Knuckles is number 1 in my list of favourite Sonic characters. He was brilliant in the older games as he was so much more mischievious *coughmushroomhillzoneact2cough* but nowadays, he's increasingly becoming the comedy relief like Eggman is. Sonic X was a great example of this. I dislike how he is played so much as the gullible one. Yes, it's in his nature to be gullible but it gets played on too much in my opinion.

I liked how Sonic heroes came out with a somewhat friendly side to Knuckles. Well, according to his speech he sounded kind of friendly.

The only guy hotter than Knuckles is Shadow, and that's saying something.

He's a little slow, but hey, don't all girls want a lad who doesn't catch on too fast?

Knuckles= #1
Shadow= #2

I think it's really funny how gullible Knuckles is. He's been tricked by Dr. Eggman more times than I can count.

Like in episode 5 of Sonic X, Eggman convinced him that he just wanted the Chaos Emeralds to be able to go back to their world and it was Sonic's fault they ended up in Chris' world in the first place.
Another prime example is in Sonic Advance 2. I don't know how he ended up that infamous rolling doughnut thing with the Hand That Kills All, but what is painfully obvious is that Eggman had to lie to him again.

But there's also a downside all that. It's like he's too stupid for his own good, and I have a problem with that.

Yeah, they kinda lost the plot for the Red Dreaded One recently. I hope to goodness they get it back! Someone mentioned a Knuckles Solo Game somewhere in the MoFo, but I think it turned out to be a fake. If you ask me it would be a great idea!

Wraith

Knuckles, like Shadow seems to be a plot centered character.

Take him away from his natural habitat and he doesnt work. People havent noticed because, since he was introduced the only plotted game that hasn't involved the Master Emerald is Sonic Heroes...

Shadow needs intruige about professor Gerald or GUN to work, Knukles needs the Master Emerald...

Only Sonic, Amy Tails and Eggman are true characters, everyone else is just incidental, no matter how MAINSTREAM they are.

*COUGHCOUGHHACKDON'TFORGETCREAMCOUGHCOUGH*

Cream's been the centre of 2 (Ad2/3) of the 4 games she's appeared in, and a very cool part of Battle.

All of this Cream opression shall not go unnoticed. Sonic Advance 3 proves she's a main character now, wether we want to acknowledge it or not.

Knuckles is a good character who became overexposed. He was hugely enjoyable in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, working for Eggman against Sonic, and then later fighting Egg Robo in his own mission. That was Knuckles' role and story pretty much done. He then should've been put into a storage box and only taken out when he would contribute something.

Knuckles was fantastic in Sonic Adventure as well because it gave us insight into his motivations and character when not being directly involved in a battle with Sonic and Eggman. It portrayed Knuckles as a smart, proud and dedicated person accustomed to his solitary life style, striving for nothing more than the inner peace it brings him. And of course the main plot of the game tied directly to Knuckles more than any other character, and shed as much light as was needed on what happened to his race.

For his every other appearance he's just been there. And only because he's popular. They only serve to demean his character.

It was cool to have him in Sonic the Fighters, (especially how Sonic vs Knuckles matches had their own music) because Knuckles was an established fist-fighter, and it was one of those fluff games that takes the most popular characters and puts them into a multi-player genre. I still have some issues with his involvement (why was his stage South Island whilst Espio's was Mushroom Hill for example?), but it was cool to see him there and made sense.

But what has he brought to any of the other games?

Sonic R? G Sonic? Sonic & Tails 2? Sonic Shuffle? Sonic Advance 1-3? Sonic Pocket Adventure? Sonic Adventure 2? Sonic Heroes? He was just there, serving no purpose.

He even felt kind of out of place in Chaotix.

You want a gliding and digging character? Use Ray the Flying Squirrel. You want a strong character? Use Mighty the Armadillo or Vector the Crocodile. You want a climbing character? Use Espio the Chameleon.

Tap the potential of all these great characters, don't diminish Knuckles.

That's right, RUN!

I've been a Cream fan since she first appeared in SAdv 2 and I WON'T LET YOU!!!
Besides, Cheese will hunt you down to no end, anyway.

*back on topic*
I just hope Sonic Team doesn't decide to have the next game Knux appears him to send him on another M.E. hunt. I never understood why they did that in the SA games.

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Sonic R? G Sonic? Sonic & Tails 2? Sonic Shuffle? Sonic Advance 1-3? Sonic Pocket Adventure? Sonic Adventure 2? Sonic Heroes? He was just there, serving no purpose.

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Mind you a lot of those games no one really served any purpose.
Sonic R was like Sonic the Fighters really

Sonic Triple Trouble (please!) that was wierd because he was the third villian and played a Sonic 3 role really.

Sonic Shuffle again like Sonic R and Fighters

Sonic Advance 1-3 well, Tails hasnt done anything in those as well. Even though for some reason he wanted to kill Sonic in Advance 2(and who doesnt?)

Sonic Pocket Adventure, was he even in that in any other way than a picture?

Sonic Adventure 2, I think actually you are right, Sonic team didnt know what to do with him and actually used him to get Rouge over with the fans.

Sonic Heroes, No one actually could do anything really in Heroes apart from Metal Sonic that crazy robot!

Chaotix, that is just one of those tests Sega has given to the main Sonic characters. Tails had a try on the Game Gear with Adventures and Skypatrol and on the Pico with Music Maker, Dr Robotnik had that Puyo Pop remake and Knuckles had to try and sell the 32X. And he failed miserably. mind you it didnt help with the fact that the 32X was pointless. Now Shadow has his big break.

It is a shame that they havent done a Knuckles Adventure for the 128 bit consoles really, because hes not Sonic he doesnt have to have levels designed around speed courses and actually have a game designed like a Mario Sunshine or a Ratchet and Clank. actual platforming greatness and using his abilities, gliding, climbing, digging, hitting stuff, swimming and more.

For his every other appearance he's just been there. And only because he's popular. They only serve to demean his character.

I disagree on one count: I think Knuckles played a worthwhile part in Sonic Battle. That's one of the reasons Sonic Battle's story was so good... every character was useful to the story in some way. Well, except Chaos and Gamma, but they don't really count. 😛

Other than that, I think you're mostly right.

I don't even know WHY or even HOW Chaos got worked into Sonic Battle. Gamma was just there to get beaten up by everyone else.

And while Knuckles did play a nice role in that game, I think his episode was mostly comedy relief as he and Emerl went on their own little adventure of sorts.

Significance of Knux's story in Battle:
Knuckles was the first character to find out about Eggman's plan to build the Final Egg Blaster. And Knuckles is there when Emerl discovers the on/off switch for the trap that will be used to ensnare Eggman, allowing Cream and Emerl to escape in a later story. Knuckles is also the first character to give Tails shards (as opposed to intact Chaos emeralds) enabling Tails to further his research. (And of course, it is necessary to beat Knuckles' story to access the Mine Hunt mini-game, as well as complete the regular game, and read all of Gerald's files).
Seems more than just "comic relief" to me.

Knuckles: He's fast, he's strong. But what I don't like about him is how can't trust one of his best allies, Sonic, yet he always falls for his worst eneny's, Eggman, tricks. in Sonic 3 it was understandable. Now it's like cruel.
But I still think Knuckles is a cool character. He's proud about his race after all.

Hello, I just started posting here. I love Knuckles I've loced him ever since I was like 7 years old. I honestly think Knuckles was a great addition to the Sonic universe.
Okay here are some things I like about him and why.

1.His looks: He's a cool red color and has pretty blue eyes and that white mark that looks like a nikey symbol rocks!

2. His voice: I am not sure about in English but in Japanese Kanemaru-san does Kunckles' voice and does it very well.

3. His personality: A loner type personality I really can relate too. His temper is so funny the way he looses it so easily. His weakness for gals is also cute. ~_^

4. His sunglasses!

Okay I'm done with explanations.

I think Knuckles is cool. In Sonic Adventure 2, because Knuckles's voice got deeper, they put rap on his stages and theme song. I think Knuckles is one off the strongest characters.

They put rap on his stages because Sega are idiots.

well thats true

Don't bump topics all willy-nilly.