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(@sonic332)
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If they give Gamma a bio, there's a chance he might come back! WOOHOO!

Sorry. Barring Metal Sonic, I feel Gamma is the single coolest thing Eggman has ever come up with. I don't care much for Mr. Psycho- I mean, Omega.

 
(@elias5-1991)
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yeah! That's totally E-102.
But...
I dunno - E is dead. I mean, even if a new E-102 comes into play, it'll never be the same Gamma...=(

Unless Eggman catches the same Flicky and turns it into the same Robot =P

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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God, I hope they don't bring Gamma back. I think I would come very close to swearing off Sonic forever if they turn Gamma into Shadow Part II.

 
(@gt-koopa)
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No E-102r action for you?

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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That was the whole point of Omega really. We need a robot who is kinda like Gamma but not.

They won't bring back Gamma (or Chaos Gamma) because there is no need to. If your lucky you might see the red bird again.

 
 Pach
(@pach)
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That's pretty much true for 90% of the cast yet they keep coming back. :crazy

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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Gamma
Gamma Wallpaper
Gamma Flash Puzzle
Series History Page
The wait for Metal Sonic goes on.

 
(@veckums)
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Awesome art.

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My prediction:

Blaze, Silver, Elise, Mephiles, Metal Sonic, Gamma, Tikal, Chaos, Black Doom, Mighty, Ray, Bean, Bark


Blaze, Silver, Chaos, Gamma so far.

My new prediction:

Tikal, Metal Sonic, Emerl, maybe Super Shadow and Super Silver, then either a bunch of villains in order (Biolizard, Black Doom, Eggman Nega, Mephiles, Erazor) or Fang, Mighty, Ray, Bean, and Bark

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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My love for Gamma has returned in the form of a joygasm over that art.

Thank you Sega. Kitty loves that and will Wallpaper right away.

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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It almost *has* to be Tikal next month. Which will be nice.

Google translated Bio:
[robo] for shooting which the egg man made, the 2nd machine of the E-100 series.
The mechanic of the egg man originally, in order to extract organism energy, on the center has placed the small animal, but
The small bird had been built in also E-102.
The encounter with [emi](Amy?) it reaches the point where in opportunity you have doubt in the present your own form,
Finally it starts moving in order to help the companion of similar type [robo].
You become companion and, E-101 and the hitting each other at the same time which remain lastly recover the mutual original form.

The 1st machine beta, the 2nd machine being named gamma by the way as for, 0th machine alpha of prototype
Being because it exists, it hit to the duty of [emi](Amy?) capture in the same time, ZERO that is.
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Confirms that Zero is Alpha.

 
(@pc-the-hedgehog_1722585862)
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Man, all of these cool Uekawa pics really make me miss his art on the Sonic titles as opposed to the CG we get nowadays...

 
(@d-b-vulpix)
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But dosen't Uekawa still draw for Sonic Team? I mean sure they may have replaced his art with 3D models on the box but right there on that wallpaper link you see Silver. So its not like they laid him off or anything, which is good.

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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I'm glad I started this thread - it's always nice to see a bump and check out the latest new character artwork. I often check up on Sonic Channel, but somehow you always beat me to it when the new profiles go up, John. I'm not there every day or anything, but... yeah.

Yep, certainly is the promo Gamma artwork from the DX version of SA1. It's just what they did with Omega, made an existing CG into a traditional artwork (bugs me that Omega's 'nose' guard is black instead of silver in the artwork though). I would prefer a completely new artwork, but the one Gamma's is based on was always awesome anyway (mmm, alliteration).

Good list, Veckums - I definitely think we'll see Tikal next time. Maybe they'll edit that old sketch that was hidden in the SA1 disc - you know, with the cape? I think it was Koji that colored it once it was found - it'd be cool to compare that to the official version if they do end up fishing that sketch up.

The full list of 'modern' characters that could conceiveably come before they run out and start considering doing classic characters (we all want it but it's probably best not to get our hopes up) would be:

- Emerl, G-Merl*
- Dark Chao, Hero Chao**
- Omochao (you all want him to burn but for some reason I love him :evil )
- Super Shadow (Super Sonic has his own profile, so..)
- Super Silver
- Burning Blaze
- Eggman Nega
- Vanilla
- ZERO***
- Tikal
- Pachacamac
- Biolizard
- Maria
- Gerald
- GUN Cmdr.
- King Boom Boo
- Black Doom
- Angelus (Babylon Guardian)
- Elise
- Duke
- Mephiles
- Iblis
- Solaris (even if he is just the above two combined)
- Lumina, Void, Illumina
- Shahra
- Erazor
- Metal Sonic (I put him at the end because I want him the most and they seem to be enjoying making us hurt with the wait)
- Neo Metal Sonic (Heroes form. It's kind of his Super form, I guess. I would love to see him as he'd not be shadowed or moving unobscured and see whether us fans got all his tiny details correct)
- Mecha Sonic (SA1 tube version)
- Mecha Knuckles (Sonic Advance 1, there was that artwork in the japanese playguide)

I sincerely doubt we'll get all those characters (especially the likes of one-shot boss characters), but those are all of the characters that could potentially stand in the way of the likes of the forgotten classic styled characters. Years worth :

*I know. G-Merl, G-Mel, Gemerl, Gemel, whatever the hell you want to call him. Does the japanese Advance 3 manual have the official romanisation of his name in it anywhere?

**It's possible they'll have them separately because despite there being three Chao in the artwork (from the existing Chao profile on Sonic Channel), they're all neutral Chao.

***I would also mention the other non-playable E-Series... but ZERO is the only one unique enough to warrant his own profile I'd guess (plus he reappeared in the special stage of Advance 2... not that I guess that stands for much, but still, I want ZERO art!!).

"Confirms that Zero is Alpha."
So did the official SA website that the game itself (DC version) loaded up with the 'internet' option on the main menu screen. But noone ever really took any notice of that, so yeah.

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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(Waits irritably in vain, vague hopes of Bean)

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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Don't feel alone Xag. For some reason, I have the vain hope that they'll do Chacron.

 
(@sonic332)
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GAMMA! YAYNESS!!!!

And I don't see what the problem with bringing Gamma back is. If I have to deal with Shadow's inexplicable return from the grave (that they made you wait two years to figure out), why not get someone I actualy WANT to return and is far more plausible? Gamma's parts still exist, in the form of Chaos Gamma. Knowing how much Eggman screws up from time to time, would it be so much to ask to have him, I dunno, not completely have erased Gamma's memory core?

*sigh* But knowing Sega, they'd probably screw it up. Still, a man can dream, right? (hit in the head with a brick)

 
(@gt-koopa)
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I think what will happen is that with every new game to come out, there will be the new characters from that game (Shahra, Erazor) and therefore in order to promote that game months will be taken out for those new characters. Thus we will never get our favorite classic characters (Bean, Bark, Mighty, and most notably Nack/Fang) unless they appear in a new game, which thanks to that one poll Sega thinks the fans care more about Shadow than characters that made their debut before the current "target audience" was even born.

Which raises the question. What if Sonic X-treme was made and Fang got that boss cameo? Would history be changed forever as he gets reconized as a reccuring character? Even to the point of being featured in Sonic Adventure and maybe even one of the top billings in Sonic Adventure 2?

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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Well they would have made Amy playable in Adventure 2 and have Fang as her rival on the Dark Side. It would be kinda like Amy would have to use stealth and Fang would be playing the part of Zero where you are in/on a robot tearing chunks out of the scenery.

Which wouldn't be that bad I suppose.

Then he gets a Texan accent on Sonic X.

 
(@gt-koopa)
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Then wouldn't Rouge look redundant if she made that version of SA2?

Player: Oh great, another treasure hunter!

And if Rouge didn't exist, who would Knuckles's rival be? Or would Knux be a "be there" character just like Amy was?

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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If Mortal Kombat has taught me anything is that the power of retcon can be a powerful thing.

So yeah: Lol, Fang's a bounty hunter now. He never liked jewels and stuff.

 
(@gt-koopa)
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But Fang never collected Chaos Emeralds because they were shiny and keep them forever, he wanted to sell them on the Black Market at a high price. =( @ retcon

And what did Amy do to deserve a bounty anyway? If Fang was part of the Dark gameplay wouldn't he be on the run as well?

 
(@john-w-echidna)
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GAAHHHHHH @ What if scenario.

Amy is Amy and thus a friend of Sonic. Probably hit Fang on the head once with the hammer of piko piko.

Imma gonna retcon the retcon and say that Fang is a bounty hunter with an interest in jewels because of their high prices.

 
(@gt-koopa)
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Alert! Amy just stole your hat!

Dark Mission 1: Retrive your hat from Amy! Evade G.U.N. Troops!

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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Amy does like treasure hunting, though..

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According to the Bradygames Sonic Adventure Official Strategy Guide, one of Amy's hobbies that was stated in her profile is searching for gold. Sonic Battle also contains an unlockable game named "Amy's Treasure Island" where she, Cream, Knuckles and Rouge search for treasure. This is further confirmed by the "Sonic Channel" website which states dowsing is one of her special skills. It was also seen in episode 55 of Sonic X, where she, Cream, and Cosmo search for a Chaos Emerald on a desert planet.


I know it's from Wikipedia, but still.. :O

 
(@ultra-devil-chao_1722585797)
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Amy VS Fang. Now there's an Idea! Or howzabout Fang goes after poor Froggy and Froggy goes missing again and Team Rose goes after Fang and Froggy!:crazy

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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"And what did Amy do to deserve a bounty anyway?"

Espio put a hit out on her for stealing his invisibility skill.

 
(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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Espio put a hit out on her for stealing his invisibility skill.


LOL!^_^

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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But really, think about how deadly this ability makes Amy now. She could sniper-hug Sonic from anywhere, at any time. She could be watching him as he sleeps. She could use her mysticism-based skills to determine where he's going to be in the future, and be there waiting for him.

She might pop out of the next Prison Egg that Sonic busts open (man.. I miss Prison Eggs. Last we saw of 'em in 3D was SA1..). Those animals had better hope that Eggman puts them in one of the Sonic 1 style ones that has a window - I don't think Sonic would want to risk opening one blind knowing that Amy could be inside.

Seriously though, invisibility, Espio's defining ability - where the hell did she get that? Ridiculous.

 
(@toby-barrett)
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I seriously doubt we'll ever see Amy going "Invisabo" ever again. It was just a "GENIUS" idea that the StH 06 team had to make her different from the other amigoes. :crazy

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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She used magic.

 
(@questern)
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She uses her Tarot cards to find the treasure for her "Incredibly Hopeful Chest".

 
(@gt-koopa)
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You mean she wants to get a boob job?

...sorry, bad joke.

 
(@super-shadic-01_1722585742)
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...So...has there been a new update lately? Or not?

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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The updates (new character profiles) normally happen around the 22nd, so it'll be a little bit until we get another one of those (they're really the only updates worth talking about for the most part).

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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I don't think this will bump without the double posting, so, um, sorry.

Anyway, yep, like we all suspected, we have Tikal!

Profile | wallpaper | desk calendar | flash puzzle

I always thought she was kind of a peach color in SA1, but here she's quite orange. Maybe I just don't have a good memory.

 
(@sonic332)
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WOOHOO! Tikal lineart!

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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Aww, she's so cute! :)

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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Cool ^^

I always thought Tikal was orange myself. A nice new image to use for Tikal-related stuff I do. 😀

 
(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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Aww, she's so cute!:)


I concur.

 
(@miss-puar)
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Awesome! Her new lineart is adorable (though I kinda miss the cloth. I am guessing it was too hard to animate thus dropped for game design)

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Man she was a good character. As was Chaos. I miss SA. =P

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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(@one-tru-blu)
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All I can say is that looks badass.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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No kidding. Thats some sweet art.

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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Wow, awesome art - I dig the pose. It's cool seeing him drawn with the smooth lines of the standard promo art rather than the sharp lines of the Battle-related art.

Emerl must be made of some hi-tech, lightweight material to weigh only 14kg. Sonic is two and a half times heavier than he is! Because Emerl is so old, yet so advanced a construct, I always imagined he was made of something other than metal (I imagined something like wood, but harder), but man that's light for his size. Maybe I'm thinking too much and it was just a typo (114kg?).

Using the data from the profiles at Sonic Channel, you can make the following lists:

HEIGHT (shortest to tallest)
Cheese 40cm
Cream 70cm
Charmy 70cm
Tails 80cm
Amy 90cm
Blaze 95cm
Tikal 95cm
Sonic 100cm
Shadow 100cm
Silver 100cm
Jet 100cm
Rouge 105cm
Knuckles 110cm
Espio 110cm
Wave 110cm
Emerl 110cm
Storm 140cm
Omega 150cm
Vector 180cm
Eggman 185cm
Big 200cm
Gamma 215cm

WEIGHT (lightest to heaviest)
Charmy 10kg
Cream 12kg
Emerl 14kg
Tails 20kg
Jet 33kg
Sonic 35kg
Shadow 35kg
Silver 35kg
Espio 36kg
Knuckles 40kg
Storm 80kg
Eggman 128kg
Vector 200kg
Big 280kg
Gamma 825.256kg
Omega 1230.512kg

AGE (youngest to oldest)
Cream 6
Charmy 6
Tails 8
Amy 12
Jet 14
Blaze 14
Silver 14
Tikal 14
Sonic 15
Knuckles 16
Espio 16
Rouge 18
Wave 18
Big 18
Storm 19
Vector 20

I've omitted some characters from the lists because their weight is a secret, their height is variable, or their age is unknown, etc.

Sorry for the crappy formatting, I don't know how to get the second column to line up.

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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EMERL <33333333333333

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Wow thanks for that list Cyber. 0_0

 
(@nelstone)
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That pose is made of pure win. Looks like Emerl's about to kick ass and take names.

Think we'll get G-mel art too?

 
(@full-metal-rayzor_1722585901)
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Yeah, I concur with everyone else, Emerl does look pretty cool; I wonder if this means we will get Gemerl, or whatever, next month?

 
(@sailor-unicron)
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Yay! More robot art! I love Emerl's pose.

 
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