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I hate you. You suck. If Shadow's cool ass weren't in this game, I wouldn't be getting this game(or other Shadow fans). And your opinion sucks along with Knuckles, Tails, and Blaze. I mean who wants them in this game, they are crap.You must be brain damaged if you think Shadow ruins games, man thousands of Shadow Fans would tear you apart if you said that. Thanks for the laugh though.
Plus Shadow>>>>>>>>Sonic, Silver, and Eggman.
If you think Knuckles and Tails are crap but Shadow isn't, then you got some serious problems. But then again, I would expect this from a 13 year old whose first Sonic game was Sonic Adventure 2: Battle. They see Shadow and there all like 
. 'I LOVE SHADOW! SCREW THE REST!"
Just admit it, Shadow should have stayed dead after SA2. His constant apperances in games are now nothing more than fanboy service. I've even see people who bought Sonic Riders just because Shadow was in it. 
And the only reason you think he is cool is because of his cliched personality. The dark anti hero who shut outs everybody else but still has a soft spot for somebody. Please 
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I hate you. You suck. If Shadow's cool ass weren't in this game, I wouldn't be getting this game(or other Shadow fans). And your opinion sucks along with Knuckles, Tails, and Blaze. I mean who wants them in this game, they are crap.You must be brain damaged if you think Shadow ruins games, man thousands of Shadow Fans would tear you apart if you said that. Thanks for the laugh though.
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Thanks for the laugh though.
Does anyone else find that comment strangely amusing.
Seriously, I was going to post a paragraph in caps lock and mispelled words but I'm too nice. And I accidently pressed back...
Wow there are Shadow fans? Like this. Mind you I've seen more commited Sonic fans. Just plain wrong commited.
Shadow was cool. Until we found out his intentions and his personality. Hopefully now his past is explained (ALIEN SPUNK!) he can hopefully actually become cool again.
Internets the Cyberhog > Mephiles. He looks like a PSO Villian.
SHADOE >>>>> BEEG, FENG, BAEN AND BARKED!
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and that was how the thread was won.
Ooh, It's been a long time since I've had to do this kind of moderation on the board.
Shadowshomebody17: First off, read the rules. They are mandatory reading before posting, and it is clear that you haven't.
Starting with he mild stuff. You double posted. Looks like it wasn't an intentional mistake in the first place, but I'll remind you{since you should have read the rules by the time you're this far in my post :3} that additional comments should be edited into your post if nobody has responded to you yet.
Your first post wasn't that bad; just kinda negative, and not in direct breach of the rules. Your second post, however, is too offensive. Your way of dealing with opinions that differ from yours and attitude in general is not appropriate and you will be penalized if you don't improve.
I'm having difficulty expanding on that to make it crystal clear; if that doesn't explain it thoroughly enough for you, then feel free to send me an ezPM and I'll try elaborating then.
All who have responded while I've typed this up, and all who will reply afterward: Responding in kind is not the best course of action; someone attacking your opinions or otherwise raining on you doesn't mean you should too when you respond to them. Set an example.
If you think Knuckles and Tails are crap but Shadow isn't, then you got some serious problems. But then again, I would expect this from a 13 year old whose first Sonic game was Sonic Adventure 2: Battle. They see Shadow and there all like . 'I LOVE SHADOW! SCREW THE REST!"
Just admit it, Shadow should have stayed dead after SA2. His constant apperances in games are now nothing more than fanboy service. I've even see people who bought Sonic Riders just because Shadow was in it.
And the only reason you think he is cool is because of his cliched personality. The dark anti hero who shut outs everybody else but still has a soft spot for somebody. Please
1. I'm not 13
2.I don't think you understand, I don't like Tails and Knuckles. Thats my opinion. I prefer Shadow over them.
3.My first game was Sonic The Hedgehog 1
4.Who cares what cliche he rips off
5.I think he's cool antways, he hover skates and warps time and space thats why I think he's cool.
6.I think otherwise, Shadow should of stayed alive.
7.I like Sonic more than Shadow.
Sorry I got off on the wrong foot.
:"> Curse you, Sonic Team for releasing a half ass demo.
Stuff I like:
- graphically it looks awesome
- Sonic pretty fast
Stuff I didn't like:
- the demo suffer from slowdown at certain points in the level
- there are audio problem(Sonic sounds strange, sometimes the sound dissapears,etc.)
-it short
- the camera moves badly in some areas
The demo feels like it made before E3 or it at least 30 to 40% finish. Hopefully the final product will be better.
Does anyone else find that comment strangely amusing.
Seriously, I was going to post a paragraph in caps lock and mispelled words but I'm too nice. And I accidently pressed back...
Wow there are Shadow fans? Like this. Mind you I've seen more commited Sonic fans. Just plain wrong commited.
Shadow was cool. Until we found out his intentions and his personality. Hopefully now his past is explained (ALIEN SPUNK!) he can hopefully actually become cool again.
Internets the Cyberhog > Mephiles. He looks like a PSO Villian.
SHADOE >>>>> BEEG, FENG, BAEN AND BARKED!
He was always cool, just portrayed wrong. Don't care about his personality, just the skating and Chaos Spear.
Again, sorry for the outburst.
Won What?
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He was always cool, just portrayed wrong. Don't care about his personality, just the skating and Chaos Spear.
If it were special abilities that made a character cool rather than their character the everyone would love Superman and hate Batman.
Shadow was a nice idea and set up for a story, but his story ended in SA2, he's useless otherwise, since Sonic world already has Sonic as the speedy superhero, Knuckles as the guy with the mysterious past and connection to the Chaos Emeralds, Metal Sonic as Sonic's clone/rival, and Eggman who loves to destroy...with his machines, which include vehicals, guns, and gun mounted vehicals (Well, maybe not guns like AKs, but he did have a blaster before :P).
Basically, everything Shadow can do has been done! And better too!
Sorry I got off on the wrong foot.
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Again, sorry for the outburst.
Not a problem; you've already made an excellent turnaround. Welcome to the forum.
On-topic: I just watched the Silver trailer. Looking at his falling speed, I'm sure that his final running speed{and perhaps game speed overall} will be at least 1.5x faster than it is in that video. Been downloading the other one since my last post...these files are bloody huge. I'll edit with my thoughts on the second one later, I guess.
Yeah, as SHADONIC pointed out (albeit nobody seemed to notice), the demo for the Xbox 360 version is apparently out now. Play it, cuz I can't.
Wow. I didn't see that edit from SHADONIC. My heart is skipping a few beats right now, because this demo is going to satisfy me till November -- we should have time limit races. 🙂
I'm at the college right now, then work is next ... I wont be able to play it till late tonight! 🙁 Pleeease post some more opinions!
Make that December. 21st at least. Check the officail site.
Okay, I watched the other vid. It's promising. Playing as Shadow is looking cool and there were no Shadow gameplay elements in the first level so we can assume/hope that they aren't mandatory at any point in the game.
I'm not sure about that infinite jumping, though. If you fall a long way it will be tedious to bounce back up again. He should have some sort of really high jump, like HighJump/Hippogryph from the Sorrow games. I hope that's some sort of unlockable at least. Moving on to Sonic...or not. It's mostly stuff we've seen before, but the electric crate was cool it hints at the awesome points system from SA2 making a return.
Gripes:
- Those grinding parts are far, FAR too long. The grinding speed needs to be tripled on the air stream grinds and the speed of grinding on actual rails should be the same fast pace we saw when the very first video was unveiled.
- Shadow's shoes still don't act like they do in SA2. I WANT VISIBLE PROPULSION.
- Sonic's fur colour is still too close to cyan.
It's the same "loose camera/homing attack don't work properly" demo I played at E3!! I keep falling when Sonic should be homing in on the next enemy!! GRRRRR!!
UPDATE:I've had more time to get used to the controls. When doing a homing attack, make SURE the enemy or ring is right in Sonic's line of vision. If you start rapidly pressing the x button, you'll die for sure. So yes, the homing attack takes mopre skill than it did before, but it's fine once you get the hang of it.
Short demo BTW. The E3 one had two parts to that level. (The other part was a spped level) Also, you got to play a level with Silver.
Yeah, it a really short demo. I wish they added the speed areas.
Btw the hint orb guy voices annoys me . It make me miss Omochao
. Who is that guy anyway?
In my opinion omochao was a dork. I prefer the orb.
Maybe it's some type of elf or sumthing. Heck, it can't be Tikal. Maybe it's some one from the future?
And omochao was fun to toss around! HEY! They should of made a mini game that involved us throwing Omochao around. That whould of been cool!
As for the Demo, i can't play because i don't have the game systeam. And like i can really afford a 360 anyway. Im with the rev.
Omochao was fun to mess around with but I still think he was a dork. Maybe a mini game would work out. I meen who doesn't want to throw omochao around.
I think what we all can agree on is that...well....remember Shadow? When everyone was super stoked to buy/rent/try it? After about a half a year's anticipation, everyone is saying it's great, but then it turns into a flop.
Next gen's Sonic has a fighting chance, what with the new graphics. It'll be the first Sonic game for next gen, so we all can cut 'em some slack if it doesn't turn out as well as we all hope.
Though most likely it'll be awesome.
Well, I just played the demo.
At the current time, my opinion on it is regarding the controls and the ease of movement. There needs to be more freedom ... when you jump in the air, then shoot yourself at an enemy, notice how everything is locked for a brief second? This feeling of lockage, which takes away control, is what is killing me -- I just feel as if I can't entirely move around as free as I could've in the ol' SA1 and SA2 games.
Though, I seriously believe this is the old E3 version. It's just ... as people say, slow and basic. It has a lot of potiental though -- just needs some tweeking.
Welp, it looks like I or my brother will be downloading this demo(among others) despite the negative impressions I keep hearing about it.
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Next gen's Sonic has a fighting chance, what with the new graphics. It'll be the first Sonic game for next gen, so we all can cut 'em some slack if it doesn't turn out as well as we all hope.
Not really, since this isn't the first 3D Sonic game they did. =P And please don't say it would be awesome. People said the same thing about SH.
My best time so far is 2'29 with an A ranking.
Also got an A, first try no less.
E3 demo? Lame. Try harder, Sega. TGSers got to play the good stuff.
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remember Shadow? When everyone was super stoked to buy/rent/try it?
Nope, I distinctly remember everyone naysaying about if from the get-go.
it were special abilities that made a character cool rather than their character the everyone would love Superman and hate Batman.
Shadow was a nice idea and set up for a story, but his story ended in SA2, he's useless otherwise, since Sonic world already has Sonic as the speedy superhero, Knuckles as the guy with the mysterious past and connection to the Chaos Emeralds, Metal Sonic as Sonic's clone/rival, and Eggman who loves to destroy...with his machines, which include vehicals, guns, and gun mounted vehicals (Well, maybe not guns like AKs, but he did have a blaster before :P).
Basically, everything Shadow can do has been done! And better too!
Shadow is not useless. He's the Real True Rival of Sonic and the loner Anti-hero Ultimate Lifeform that will seek answers and take names. And He, apparently is working for G.U.N. now, so that might be his purpose.I don't like you saying all this as a fact of man. This is only a opinion. And he's the utimate lifeform with an ability that Sonic can't master. So that gives Sonic a run for his money. In my opinion.That's why I love Shadow his gameplay introduced to me a new way at reaching Breakneck speeds. And Chaos Control, Metal copied Shadow's Chaos Control, so he could be stronger, instead of using his own skills to defeat Sonic and Friends. In conclusion, making Shadow better than Metal Sonic.
Shadow's better than Metal and Knuckles, much better.He doesn't need a story to be in the games, just cool gameplay and powers, thats all that matter. He's saved the world by himself, while these two haven't.
And Superman is more popualar than Batman. Everybody loves him even Jerry Sinfeild(sp)
Nope, I distinctly remember everyone naysaying about if from the get-go.
Nope, your both wrong. It was So and So. Everbody on this board does not equal Majority.
Well maybe they are just refering to the mofo, which in that case would be the majority.
Sigh....sometimes I think that the MoFoers here need to use their eyes more.
Though I may need to restate an earlier phrase.
I'm saying it's the blue boy's first ON THE NEXT GEN. Think about it a little; it'll be the first, so there's no guarantee that it'll be good (though I'm pretty positive about it). Just look at that colorful cast of characters! I don't know about you, but I like a game's storyline and characters as much, if not more then the gameplay itself.
And if you quote me on the first line on this sentence, you're the guys I'm talking about.
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Why are Shadowshomeboy's quotes not working?
Wrong formatting, I guess.
I tried it out after fixing the connection of the 360 on this floor. It's okay, but very, VERY flawed. Most importantly, the camera is as bad as you've heard. You can ONLY move it left or right, and very, VERY slowly at that. Left and right wouldn't be an issue if it was at a proper speed. Every problem otherwise pretty much stems from the camera - except maybe the slowdown issues.
Or the controls. Sonic's REALLY touchy. To show this off, try standing still and then slowly moving around by very slowly tilting the analog until you get movement. You'll find that when you eventually DO get it working, your walking speed's way too fast; do it on a very small pathway (like, say, tightrope-thin), and I guarantee you'll fall off.
Not to mention the physics. When it works, it works well, but there are times where I've gone right through objects that I should interact with, or, say, when you cause the big bridge to crumble early on, the bridge clips right through some enemies, who remain unscathed. The heck? If I had several tons of rock slammed onto my head, there's no WAY I'd remain totally unharmed. Or anything but a bloody pancake.
All in all... DOOM was released on XBLA today. Play that instead, it's more fun. This was okay, but hell, it's DOOM.
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I'm saying it's the blue boy's first ON THE NEXT GEN. Think about it a little; it'll be the first, so there's no guarantee that it'll be good (though I'm pretty positive about it). Just look at that colorful cast of characters! I don't know about you, but I like a game's storyline and characters as much, if not more then the gameplay itself.
Your last two sentences states one of the reasons why many people are denouncing this game.
Also has there been any confirmation that this is the E3 demo build or was a just a statement of hope for Sonic fans?
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Also has there been any confirmation that this is the E3 demo build or was a just a statement of hope for Sonic fans?
Its probably both. There have been the odd person who has played both this and the E3 build with a new HUD and said its pretty much the same. At least lets hope its the E3 build. There hasn't been much good from it.
Edit: TIALS!!!!!
The Chosen One! 
I think I read somewhere that Sonic doesn't have his spin-dash in the demo. Maybe it's one of those moves you can upgrade to, but I don't see why Sonic should have to upgrade for a move he's been doing since he was Sonic 2 years old, that's so Samus Aran. Sonic witouth spin-dash is crazy, they may as well pull off one of Tails tails and make him pay for a new one.
But I suppsoe with the loose controls and bottomless pits, spin-dash is now deemed too much of a hazard to pull off without falling into the void.
This game sounds like such a letdown, which is why I'l rush to buy it as soon as it comes out. Yay for hopeless dedication!
Next Gen Tails is a lot taller than he look in the first pic of him I saw. Btw can anyone translate what his profile says?
Edit- Gamespot confirm that the demo is shorter version of E3 demo.
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Shadow is not useless. He's the Real True Rival of Sonic and the loner Anti-hero Ultimate Lifeform that will seek answers and take names. And He, apparently is working for G.U.N. now, so that might be his purpose
Which is essentially Rouge's job, being a government agent at least. And a "real true rival" would have a reason to be a rival to Sonic, which Shadow doesn't have, his purpose was to do nothing more than destroy the world, then that changed to saving it, and then he could rest, with nothing more to live for....then Sonic Heroes happened....
Metal Sonic, on the other hand, was built for the very purpose of defeating Sonic, and dispite being pretty much superior in ways, still hasn't been able to pull it off, so he'd keep trying until he does, making him a perminant rival until Sonic or himself is gone for good. That's a rival!
Anyway, I'll get back on topic. As for the demo, seeing as I can't play it, can anyone confirm multiple routes yet, or is the level/s still unfinished?
Hm, I always thought Sonic's "real true rival" was Dr. Eggman, but it's all opinion it seems.
Anyways, looks like Tails is officially playable! Hopefully he plays smoothly.
I thought it was Tails. You tricked me John! ;p
At any rate, the Japanese version will be out on December 21, 2006 (a Thursday) at 7,140 Japanese Yen (equivalent of 61.97 US dollars, 48.76 Euros, or 32.61 GB Pounds)*
*rounded to two decimals.
YAY 50 thanks to Ripp Off Britian (TM). Well, it will probably be 40.
So they have delayed it? Slightly. It was coming out in November now December...
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This game sounds like such a letdown, which is why I'l rush to buy it as soon as it comes out. Yay for hopeless dedication!
And that's the mentality why this series gone from hit to s***.
EDIT:c&p my immpressions
I just played the demo and man, they weren't kidding when they said the camera sucked. Often times I was wondering, "Okay, where the heck am I going now?" And I did die a few times because I couldn't see a certain rope or rail which led to me falling towards my doom. Also, manually moving the camera is pretty daaaaang sloooow.
The other times I expired is when I spin dashed when I really wanted to pull a light speed dash. Thanks ST for yet again mapping multiple moves to one button.
The homing attack has a small delay between hits which could pose a problem for those annoying multiple-hit enemies or hos aerial bound ones. I dunno, this delay gives Sonic less of a fast-paced flow as seen in previous installments.
I did encounter a glitch of falling through those glowy rails while trying to get on.
On the plus side, this game(or this level at least) does have multiple paths, the music is good, and while it is not the best looking 360 game, it is the best looking Sonic game from a technical standpoint despite the uncharacteristic art direction.
However, even with those positives if the final game is anything like this demo(especially with those camera issues) then this game wouldn't even be worth renting. It will be just another mediocre Sonic yarn only ST will try to downplay those serious issues with a shiny-new coat of next-gen and RPG-like elements. Remember, even if you polish a pile of feces, it's still feces.
Thrippa manage to translate what the Tails profile says and from the looks of it sound pretty sweet.
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Miles 'Tails' Prower
This time Tails supports Sonic's activities in the role of Amigo Character. Admiring Sonic, Tails is always tagging along behind him. From Sonic's point of view, he's a cute little brother; Tails himself wishes to be seen as the one Sonic can rely on.
Amigo Characters give strong support!
Tails has merely to make his two tails spin to be able to fly through the air for a set time. If the stage calls for flying through the air and reaching high switches to open doors, it is the Amigo Character's turn. The player, switching to Tails to be able to operate the character, is able to have Tails support Sonic by using him to reach high places and push switches
It like Sonic Heroes only with two characters.
Seeing Tails carry Sonic around again definitely will make me wax nostalgic. No "extra baggage" like in Sonic Heroes.
Apparently, according to OCB, he was wrong about the quality of the game. He HAD said that the Japanese testers were hardcore and could iron all the wrinkles out of this thing. Unfortunately, as it turns out, they're outsourcing the debugging to another company, who's apparently inept at this, leaving such drastic bugs in as running around on the walls, the game crashing every 20 minutes, the final boss was incomplete, and it took 4 minutes to load - and that was the build at SoE two weeks ago. (They've gotten to test it for four weeks, which is even less than Shadow's six - by the by, Shadow was outsourced to the same company.)
It's very possible this game could eclipse Shadow in crappiness. Sounds almost impossible, but...
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Apparently, according to OCB, he was wrong about the quality of the game. He HAD said that the Japanese testers were hardcore and could iron all the wrinkles out of this thing. Unfortunately, as it turns out, they're outsourcing the debugging to another company, who's apparently inept at this, leaving such drastic bugs in as running around on the walls, the game crashing every 20 minutes, the final boss was incomplete, and it took 4 minutes to load - and that was the build at SoE two weeks ago. (They've gotten to test it for four weeks, which is even less than Shadow's six - by the by, Shadow was outsourced to the same company.)
It's very possible this game could eclipse Shadow in crappiness. Sounds almost impossible, but...
........ Is there a "suicide" emotion? Like, a face that actually shoots its brains out? I'd like to suggest one.
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Apparently, according to OCB, he was wrong about the quality of the game. He HAD said that the Japanese testers were hardcore and could iron all the wrinkles out of this thing. Unfortunately, as it turns out, they're outsourcing the debugging to another company, who's apparently inept at this, leaving such drastic bugs in as running around on the walls, the game crashing every 20 minutes, the final boss was incomplete, and it took 4 minutes to load - and that was the build at SoE two weeks ago. (They've gotten to test it for four weeks, which is even less than Shadow's six - by the by, Shadow was outsourced to the same company.)
It's very possible this game could eclipse Shadow in crappiness. Sounds almost impossible, but...
I call it bs. If you ask me, he just messing with us just like he did with the Elise mini game and that whole thing at GameFaqs where he told someone a fake ending to this game. And besides, the game is a month and two weeks away. I doubt he has play the FINAL version.
I dunno man, the sheer s****yness of this demo leads me to believe that he might not be screwing around this time.
It's gonna take way more than a month and a half away to fix this game--try more than a year in its current state.
Ashide, what you play was DEMO, even worse a pre-E3 2006 demo, not the final product. Everyones know that all demo suck compared to the final game.Besides, those that play the TGS demo thought the game was good. So I still have hope the final game will be good.
And yet the demo is all we have to judge on the state of the game. So if judgement is bad, then things aren't looking good, no matter how old the demo is.
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Everyones know that all demo suck compared to the final game.
Bull. I'd argue that most demos are very GOOD indications of what the full product is like, especially since they're released so close to the release date, usually. For example, DOOM's demo - that is, all of Episode 1 - is VERY representative of the full game. Same engine, same levels, same gameplay... nothing changed. (Unless you got The Ultimate DOOM, in which case, fine, there's a new switch in E1M1, but that's hardly earth-shattering.)
That being said, since this is all we have to go on - and since we have insider reports of it being much, much worse - things aren't looking rosy at all.
^That and I haven't heard great things about the TGS demo either.
And seriously what the heck would the allegedy release a pre-E3 demo to the public if the TGS one is so-called better? And yet why is the HUD in the Live demo similar to the TGS demo than the E3 one?
Geez, I remember people saying that they were having fun with the Sonic Heroes demo than this game.
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And yet why is the HUD in the Live demo similar to the TGS demo than the E3 one?
That is strange.
I assume Sonic Team or whomever created this demo before the TGS/X06 event. I do not believe it is the exact E3 build, but we don't exactly have any official word (press isn't official) regarding if it is or isn't.
From studying recent gameplay footage released from the developers, I am quite sure that this build is definitely not the build they have in their hands back in at the office. As eyes have noticed, this build is much slower and basic.
