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(@shakudo)
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And seriously what the heck would the allegedy release a pre-E3 demo to the public if the TGS one is so-called better?


Size, possibly. Even with one chara and half a level, wasn't this demo over 300 Megs? Then again I don't know about other availble demos on XBox Live so who knows.

-Shakudo-


"1.9 million hits, baby! WHOO!"

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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I think the Prey demo was more like a gig or so.

 
(@robobotnik)
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V2: Previous page, John's first post. 😛

 
(@cyberknux_1722585730)
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There's this part in the demo where you come off of running along the wall and hit some dash pads, and have to use the light dash across the line of rings directly after the last pad. If you fall off, you die. In the E3 demo, wasn't there wind that kept you afloat if you fell off, and you could get back onto the platform?

I just bought a 360 today and got the demo as fast as I could, but in the end the biggest desire I got from the demo was to play SA1 again. So I did. Sonic controls the best there - in general he doesn't slide around all over the place or spaz out and fling himself off a ledge (there were a lot of safety rails that actually did stop you dying in SA1, too), and he attacks and manouevres much quicker and smoother in the air.

 
(@shigamado_1722585792)
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I've played both the E3 demo, and this one. Except for the fact that the E3 one had 3 different levels. This level is EXACTLY the same as the last time I played it. Leading me to believe they just lazily slapped that part of the E3 demo onto the marketplace without making any of the current changes. At least I HOPE that's the case, cuz the hover attack was never this bad. Don't remember the wind.

My best score for far is 35,600, Rank A, 1Min46.80 sec.

Also the trailer that plays after was from the E3 show, so that may be the case after all.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Sonic Cult hacked the demo. I'll put these in link form to avoid spoiling etc.
Pause Screen Stuff
Numbers and other stuff
Collectable Stuff Maybe?
Life Icons
Mural Thing

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Spoilers (Select To Read): I see the sol emeralds and an additional spectrum emerald. Perhaps it's an ME equivalent or just has something to do with Silver.

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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Collect Stuff pic looks interesting.The first and second rows look like Chaos Drives or something related to the Chaos Emeralds(there are 7 of them and mutiples colors).
I am curious about the ice cream, dog and human icons. I wonder what they are for?

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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I am curious about the ice cream, dog and human icons. I wonder what they are for?


Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that icon looked like an ice cream cone.

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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Besides the pic John posted there was this to:

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sound/title_loop.xma
sound/menu.xma
sound/select.xma
sound/extra.xma
sound/theme_sonic.xma
sound/theme_elise.xma
sound/theme_shadow.xma
sound/theme_silver.xma
sound/stg_twn_a.xma
sound/stg_twn_b.xma
sound/stg_twn_c.xma
sound/stg_twn_shop.xma
sound/twn_mission_slow.xma
sound/twn_mission_fast.xma
sound/twn_mission_comical.xma
sound/roundclear.xma
sound/boss_iblis.xma
sound/boss_iblis3.xma
sound/boss_mefires1.xma
sound/boss_mefires3.xma
sound/boss_character.xma
sound/boss_cerberus.xma
sound/boss_wyvern.xma
sound/boss_solaris1.xma
sound/boss_solaris2.xma
sound/stg_wvo_a.xma
sound/stg_wvo_b.xma
sound/stg_dtd_a.xma
sound/stg_dtd_b.xma
sound/stg_wap_a.xma
sound/stg_wap_b.xma
sound/stg_csc_a.xma
sound/stg_csc_b.xma
sound/stg_csc_e.xma
sound/stg_csc_f.xma
sound/stg_flc_a.xma
sound/stg_rct_a.xma
sound/stg_rct_b.xma
sound/stg_tpj_a.xma
sound/stg_tpj_b.xma
sound/stg_tpj_c.xma
sound/stg_kdv_a.xma
sound/stg_kdv_b.xma
sound/stg_kdv_c.xma
sound/stg_kdv_d.xma
sound/stg_aqa_a.xma
sound/stg_aqa_b.xma
sound/stg_end_a.xma
sound/stg_end_b.xma
sound/stg_end_c.xma
sound/stg_end_d.xma
sound/stg_end_e.xma
sound/stg_end_f.xma
sound/stg_end_g.xma
sound/twn_clear.xma
sound/twn_accordion.xma
sound/speed_up.xma
sound/result.xma
sound/battle_roundclear
sound/invincible


It look like music. I wonder what the mission comical is?

 
(@spiritsenshi)
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Sonic Cult hacked the demo. I'll put these in link form to avoid spoiling etc.


Wow! If those really ARE life icons, Blaze might be playable (or am I late on the news?). Sorry, I'm rather excited about this.
I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but I found this...
BIG SPOILERS: www.sonic-cult.org/!trash...arbios.png
I don't think they are 100% real or accurate, but it might be giving a good idea of what Silver is all about.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Blaze was confirmed not too long ago, but that image is new, fyi.

Spoilers (Select To Read): The parts about Elise and Shadow are interesting. Perhaps after this game he will finally be angst-free?

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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That is if is real. The fact that they are using the Sonic Heroes CG for Sonic and friends while giving Eggman and Elise their next gen look make me think it might be fake.

 
(@super-rayzor_1722027929)
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Spoilers (Select To Read): Indeed@ HSW, if this is right than Elise's story sounds a lot like Naruto's!

 
(@weresheep)
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Horay for Blaze!.....But, I'm allergic, otherwise I'd hug her. Then things might have gotten hazy....

That's besides the point. Another thing I'm looking forward to is the new generation of robot whup-ass we get to dish out.

With new robots comes new ways to kick their shiney metal asses around the pavement.

Fun fact: Though the Egg Pawns are generally dim witted (perhaps due to the lack of an animal), they are stronger then Eggman's old robots that you could kill in just one hit. Egg Pawns take multiple hits! How many does it take for next gen?

 
(@shigamado_1722585792)
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New demo score!: 49,720, 1 min, 31 secs, Rank S!! Woo Hoo!!

Hey, I'm having fun with this demo after all.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Well, this just confirms the fact that both Iblis and Mephiles are, in fact, demons. =D

And, lol, Blaze gets angry at people making fun of her under-endowed chest.

The story of this game is gradually growing on me. Wish I could say the same about the gameplay, from what I've been hearing. Will get around to playing the demo in a few hours, after my damned brother didn't tell me he downloaded it. x_x

 
(@emerald-keeper)
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Well, from what I've been hearing, the demo sounds as if it's actually the E3 version, so hopefully that's why it's so glitch-ified. I'm not getting a 360 until my 18th birthday, so I can't really give any impressions on the demo.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Blaze is 14? Heh. Anyway those profiles sound interesting. Mephiles sounds a bit 'iffy' though. I can't wait to see how this story unfolds.

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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I seriously don't buy the "It's the E3 version" rumors. Sounds to me like it's just something people randomly came up with as a defense as to why the demo sucks.

 
(@Anonymous)
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GUYZ TEH GAEM DOSEN'T SUK, TH DEMOO IZ JUZT FROM E3!!!!!!1

AND THOS ARNT GLITCHS, THEIR FEETYORES!!!!!!11!!!!!1!!!!111one

 
(@spiner-storm)
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Eventually got around to playing it.

Wasn't impressed by it at all. =/ Except, maybe visually.

The game itself was all pretty, but it just seemed to be lacking something, flow. You'd hit the ground after being catapulted into the air by a spring, and you try to keep moving forward, however there's a slight time lag as you hit the ground, and for that split-second, you're vulnerable to enemy attack.

The same goes with the homing spin. =/ Sure, it was all spiffy to jump in the air and do a homing attack at the enemies. It's what happened next which was annoying as hell.

After the homing attack, there you'd be stuck in the air momentarily, again, vulnerable to enemy attack!

It's because of these things, and others, like the slow grinding, which made the game feel as though it doesn't flow as smoothly as it could.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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So Merphiles and iblis are demons. That whould explan the screen shot of Shadow fighting Merphiles in that blazeing under ground pit. (I refuse to say the other word)

And what pevert will look at a 14 year old chest any way? Well maybe Sliver She's a slow devloper. Give the poor kitty a breck!

Sure she's not plastic like Rouge or seem to stuff her bra like Amy (People clame that Amy is Heros model chest is too big for a 12 year old Im not gona look mainly because i don't have the game and im a girl myself)

And Bat, lol

 
(@energyemerald_1722585807)
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Elise's story is very similar to Elena's, from Grandia II. Anybody else see the huge similarities?

 
(@sonicfan1984)
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I seriously don't buy the "It's the E3 version" rumors. Sounds to me like it's just something people randomly came up with as a defense as to why the demo sucks.


I believe it since the demo has much lower quality and a ton of flaws then the TGS demo. I'll wait to play the final game. I seriously refuse to believe that the demo is representing the final built.

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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And have YOU played the TGS demo to compare it to, then?

 
(@nuckles87_1722585874)
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Gamespot has:

www.gamespot.com/xbox360/...id=6158846

It's the E3 demo.

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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They're saying the content is more or less the same. They're not saying it's the E3 demo verbatim. I sincerely doubt that they'd reuse the same engine when they would have a more stable one around.

Besides, do you remember Sonic saying "yeah, piece of cake!" in the E3 demo? I don't. Nor that funny voice coming from the hint boxes. This is definitely more up-to-date than the E3 demo.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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I believe it since the demo has much lower quality and a ton of flaws then the TGS demo. I'll wait to play the final game. I seriously refuse to believe that the demo is representing the final built.


Too bad the TGS demo is also flawed.

But hey, keep believing this game will be the one that will deliever Sonic out of the gaming ghetto.

 
(@sonicfan1984)
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And have YOU played the TGS demo to compare it to, then?


lol, no I have not. I'm only comparing recent vids and impressions from both sides and so far from what I can tell the TGS demo is a more improved up to date version.

And Ashide Bunni, I never said that this game will deliever Sonic out of the gaming ghetto, I said that I refuse to believe this demo represent the final built until I play the final game myself. Please don't put words in my mouth. I never played the demo but I'm still looking forward to playing the actual game, despite people's negative comments and feedback towards the demo.

And yeah, the TGS demo is also flawed, but I only heard about minor complaints about the camera and the controls is less slippery.

 
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lol, no I have not. I'm only comparing recent vids and impressions from both sides and so far from what I can tell the TGS demo is a more improved up to date version.


So you are saying that they quickly slapped on the TGS HUD to the E3 build? okay...

And I should have expanded that "gaming ghetto" comment was addressed to the people in general who believe this game will be one of Sonic's finest moment.

 
(@weresheep)
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Wow. I just got home from Wally World (Wal-Mart) and I played the demo there. Yes, it appears they have the demo there. And I see where most of you guys are getting at. There's a split second where you're vulnerable in the air, and that just pisses me off.

Quite frankly, I like to MOVE.

But I can tell that they will remove this. I'd say 90% chance. After all, I have the LEGO Star Wars 2 free demo at my house, and most of the swings of your lightsaber don't really hit them. Thus, it's safe to say that they'll get that fixed.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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I read that the full game of LEGO Star Wars II carries bugs also.

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But I can tell that they will remove this. I'd say 20% chance.


Fixed for a more accurate, yet still generous prediction.

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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It makes you wonder.

Is Sega even really TRYING to improve the quality of the games in the series?

I don't think so. I think Sega is completely failing to understand that it's the quality rather than the style of the game that needs to be worked on.

It's not the theory that's wrong, Sega. It's the execution.

 
(@ashide-bunni)
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To Sega, it doesn't really matter. Just cram in the fan-favorites, hype it up to high heaven, recycle, recycle, recycle, go gold, and collect the monies from the fanbase who have settled for mediocrity.

And repeat for the next Sonic game.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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I am waiting for the reviews of the game to come out before judging. I haven't got a 360. And unless I win the lottery I doubt I will by the time this game comes out.

Even though by the sounds of both this Demo and the TGS demo they would have performed a miracle to even get it half playable. We can't even blame Iizuka this time around.

Something I found on Sonic News.

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When we spoke to SEGA on the news, they couldn't exactly tell us a lot, but what they did say was quite intruiging. "Think of this as not only a brand new Sonic game, but also as sort of a 'Best Of Sonic the Hedgehog'... There are loads and loads of references to older games, and we're sure that you guys are going to absolutely love it."


Well we would if it didn't play like arse. Hairy British Arse at that.
But you know... speculate on what they may include in the levels that make you think wow.
KINGDOM VALLEY:
CRISIS CITY: Westopolis-ish
TROPICAL JUNGLE: Looks a bit like Aquatic Ruin from Sonic 2 to me.
WAVE OCEAN: Emerald Coast
WHITE ACROPOLIS: Ice Cap?
DUSTY DESERT: Sonic Adventure 2 Pyramid levels?
FLAME CORE: Lava Reef
RADICAL TRAIN: Bullet Station from Heroes?
AQUATIC BASE: Scrap Brain with water maybe?
END OF THE WORLD:

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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Hey I found this pic at GameFaqs. It from the Town Stage
From the looks of it Sonic is on a Side Quest mission(the scores on the left side).

 
(@weresheep)
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KINGDOM valley? END OF THE WORLD? Elise looks like Kairi?

What next? The final boss speaks nothing of but darkness, anger and hatred? Something smells Kingdom Hearts if you ask me.

Then again, the writers could be KH fans. @.@

Anyways, I've taken a look at the screen shots of the new enemies, and I look forward to blasting them to the pit of Rick James.

Robots need love, too. Just the......wrong kind of love.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Alrighty, quick question. Since Shadow had Chaos Control and Chaos Blast in his game, don't you think it would be odd for him not to have those in this game? Maybe that'll be part of his 'gadget action'. What do you all think, will he have CC and CB or will they not include it this time?

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Well by the sounds of it he has Chaos Spear. I doubt they would implement Chaos Blast and Chaos Control into Shadow's game. Mainly because there aren't the Good/Evil gameplay bit and they weren't that good.

I would assume that Chaos Control + Mephiles has caused Shadow to jump into the future though.

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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Shadow does have Chaos Blast. In this screenshot of Mephiles first appearence we see him glowing red just like in the Shadow game, where he glows red right before using Chaos Blast.

 
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I will cry if the following two exist in this game:

Ice Cap Zone remake.
Ice Cap Zone BGM remake.

That would be awesome.

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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I will cry if the game turns out to be good.

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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They just need to SA2-GHZize the entirity of Sonic 2 and/or 3&K and tack it onto the game as an extra. INSTANT WIN

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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Why would that make it instant win?I already own the games on two different systems, I don't need them again. =

 
(@the-turtle-guy)
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o.o I meant they would make it 3D. 0o

 
(@Anonymous)
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GHZ sucked in 3D, though =(

 
(@shigamado_1722585792)
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Hmmm... With those screenshots of Sonic being chased by the Whale again, and familiar level names, could the original Sonic Adventure game be hidden inside as an extra?

 
(@weresheep)
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Hmmm.....Do you think the Chaos will make a comeback? I mean, there's the adventure stages making a coming home. Me and my brother (my 17 year old brother) loved to create his little white (good) monster in what way he could only imagine.

Next gen CG Chaos. Awesome....

The return of Chaos Blast? SHADOW SMASH!!!

 
(@chibibecca_1722585688)
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just so you know, the plural of 'chao' is 'chao', just like with sheep.

call them chaos and you'll get people thinking you're talking about a certain protective water creature. :p

 
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