sure agree with what the epople at school thijnk. they don't need any evidence or naything at all. its because you know them that they are right.

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Hit CTRL + Alt + Delete until your screen goes black, please.

*Takes Topic Seriously mode* The only characters that were reborn were the Chaotix and they were reintroduced THREE YEARS AGO!

*Takes Topic Rudely mode* Spelling and grammar are your friends. Don't abuse them. And listening to school gossip is like listening to nails on a chalkboard.

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Zigglina (7:45 pm): if he'd been specific or someone else had made it specific then people could have given their views on old characters coming back.

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There we go, this topic now has a use, now carry on.

I'll let this topic live since it has a teeny bit of potential. Any and all staffers are welcome to throw my suggestion out of the window.

stair & DDK: you're not helping in the least.

So, everyone. Which characters from the past do you think should be brought back the most, and which do you think are most/least likely to be brought back?

Include the why.

edit: EIGHTY. @ the king

Comebacks and rebirths are different things.

Now, Chaotix and Metal Sonic, they made comebacks, albiet poorly in the case of Mister Tin thighs. But I think that this topics already been done, so I'm gonna say, lets take it the other way.

Character Rebirths. What do I mean, I mean, is it possible that for some characters, the basis of them has been reused, even though thier physical form has been left to rot with Eggman's laundry?

Is it possible that Nack the Weasel de Fang Von Sniper III actually had a species and gender re-alignment operation, and now goes questing for Knuckles' family jewls as Rouge the Bat?

Did the Large, mostly quiet Bark paint himself Purple and develop a wierd amphibian fetish so that people would notice him?

Did Ray get a job at Station Square Pizza Hut?

Discuss.

*With Hyper Sonic Warrior around, chaos eases and the forum is saved*

On Topic: Nack/Fang should make a comeback. At least make him appear in Sonic Riders 2 dangit. He deserves it. A hoverbike, a spiffy hat, an unique design.

that what about nack, mighty, mecha sonic .older.
egg robo and princess sally.

Sally has the lowset possibility of "coming back" due to her not being part of the segasonic universe and her appearence in spinball being a one-off.

A step above Sally in the likelyhood of coming back would be Mighty. Him not being brought back with the rest of the Chaotix serverelly damages his chances of rising from the abyss.

Then there's Nack/Fang, Mecha Sonic and Eggrobo. Nobody really knows if Fang'll ever come back or not...there's nothin solid to argue either way. Mecha, at least, is confirmed to still exist by the stasis tube in Sonic Adventure. Egg Robo doesn't even have that.

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that what about nack, mighty, mecha sonic .older.

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"That what about?"

ignoring your bad grammar most of those chracters chances for coming back are slim to none, except for mecha. Mechas appearance in gem collection is bound to make himself far more familar with the fans. This applies to egg robo and nack to a lesser extent also. but among segas target audience there isn't much demand for their returns so don't expect much.

Egg Robo was a skin for one of the vehicles in SA2's racing minigame.

Who I'd like to see make a return:

I've mentioned it many times before, but I'd personally like to see the return of Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles. I think these two have enormous potential. In Sonic R, Metal Knuckles was said to better than Knuckles, much like Metal Sonic is to Sonic. Tails Doll, on the other hand, was never given that much exposition other than the fact that Eggman had experimented with "frightening new technology" while creating him. I think there's a lot of untapped potential with these two.

Also, along with these two, I'd like to see the return of the -cky animals and the original Badniks. I understand that they had to have more variety for the Chao, but I can't recall even seeing a Flicky in recently. If not bring the actual friends back, they could at least alter the new animals to resemble the original friends (like recolor the pink rabbit to gray as a homage to Pocky).

The original Badniks need to make a comeback. To be perfectly honest, none of Eggman's recent robots seem to have the same appeal (to me at least) as the Badniks from the original games. I actually found myself taking a liking to a lot of the older Badniks. Maybe I'm just nostalgic, but I'd much rather see a Motora or a Caterkiller than another E-<insert number here> rehash.

Who I think is most likely to make a return:

If I were a betting person, I'd put my money on Fang/Nack. Personally, I think he could've easily been used in place of Rouge. But, if he did make a comeback, I can see him being a freelancer, possibly playing both sides of the fence. He may help Sonic and co. one minute, then flop over to Eggman's side, or vice versa.

Tails Doll is a doll.
That's it.
Despite what anyone on this forum may say about the Tails Doll being "OMG TEH SCARY" It's a doll that floats for the purpose of racing.
Besides, lately Sonic Team has been trying to really build up Metal Sonic, so returns of other metal characters are unlikely, as they wuld take something away from MS.

Yes, but he's a doll whose eyes go SCHLUUUUUUUUUURPY.

Although that's about the extent of it.

Sonic Team has been trying to really build up Metal Sonic

By sticking him in one game where he gets about a minute total screen time aside from turning into a generic big massive monster for the final boss?

Hey, no-one said they were good at what they tried to do!

He was in every 3D Sonic game except for Shadow.

We need Mighty and Ray. How many times do I have to say it?

Mighty'd most likely end up as a Power type character, albeit an absurdly fast one (he was second only to Sonic in speed, but was stronger than Knuckles). Ray seems neglected, and I think he has some potential. ANd, for a Knuckles solo title, you could have Knux have to contend with Eggman, Rouge, Nack/Fang(I STILL can't tell which one to call him), and the Babylon Rogues(Jet, Wave, and Storm) ALL after the Master Emerald. It's like there's potential Emerald thieves coming out of the woodworks here, and the ones with the most untapped potential are getting shelved.
Now, if you had Heavy, Bomb, and Bean in a game, I can see the potential for some HILARIOUS scenes with Bean going all pyromanic and detonating Bomb OVER and OVER, etc. Bean- BWAHAHAH! Bomb- Please stop doing that...

Well, at least I think it'd be funny.

P.S. I'm back afeter a LOOONG hiatus.

P.P.S. I'm a fairly blatant proponent for the return of old-school Sonic characters, especially (you guessed it) Mighty and Ray (I love those two almost as much as Sonic himself!).

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We need Mighty and Ray. How many times do I have to say it?

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I would see Fang make a comeback than two more Sonic clones.

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Now, if you had Heavy, Bomb, and Bean in a game,

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I, for one, would like to see those three brought back. Bean always struck me as a character with unfulfilled potential, and Heavy and Bomb were so utterly pointless that the modern gamers need to be reminded of them when they eg. complain about new characters in Riders.

Don't forget Bark, he'd make a great comeback.

I'm only going to say this once: I'm very sorry but RAY IS NOT COMING BACK! He was rejected by SEGA of Japan back in the early 1990s,Why is he not coming back? Because we have Miles Prower!

Ray was created as a sidekick for Sonic before Sonic 2 was made, SEGA was looking for a endearing character who was cute and who could fly but Ray wasn't cute and he couldn't fly so...He was killed...err....discarded to the trash soon after Sonic 2 was completed. Miles Prower was created and made Sonic's sidekick instead.BTW, he actually gained more of a female fan base then Ray probably could have. "Okay why did he appear on SEGASonic arcade whcih was released long after Sonic 2?" you ask. Because Sega Sonic arcade was probably made before Sonic 2.

Go to sonic-cult.org for more info on Ray, Borisz/Reala himself has the info on what happened to Ray.

either way you look at it "Ray The Flying Sqiurrel" was just basically an idea that was running on empty, and I'm very sure the game designers knew that which led to Yasushi Yamguchi's creation of Miles Prower.

As for Sally, well for those who still read the washed up Archie series and don't care for Sonic X, Sally is not and was never an official SEGA brand Sonic character so this theory of Sally making another appearance in a Sonic game is so 1998!

Okay, I got it already. Sheesh.

But at least consider Mighty...

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Don't forget Bark, he'd make a great comeback.

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I just preferred Bean on the grounds that big strong characters are nothing new, but a bomb-throwing duck had some potential to be different...

either way you look at it "Ray The Flying Sqiurrel" was just basically an idea that was running on empty, and I'm very sure the game designers knew that which led to Yasushi Yamguchi's creation of Miles Prower.

Vector, Charmy, Mighty, and Shadow have all uses beyond their original intentions. Nothing stopping Sega from reusing Ray, they just won't be able to use him as Sonic's sidekick like the once planned to.

Matt, Ray is dead for good. He's never coming back.

As for the cast of Sonic The Fighters it's highly unlikely that we'll ever see them again, sure they were cool character but you gotta remember Sonic The Fighters was just created as a gag by AM2 and Takeshi Ikuza. go to x-cult for info on fighting Vipers and Sonic The Fighters.

Maybe I should have mentioned that I was already aware of the unlikelihood of some of these characters (note I said SOME- I'm not giving up hope on Mighty just yet) will ever return. Iwas just daydreaming in type format.

I admit, I've thought of some funny scenes involving Bean chasing-and trying to detonate- a less-than pleased Bomb, letting his inner pyromaniac come out with a BANG! so to speak.
However, I also must admit that's LUDICROUSLY unlikely.

But one can dream.....

Even if Bean comes back, Bomb and Heavy won't ever be making a comeback because they were filler characters to begin with, and not even popular filler characters like Fang and Metal Knuckles and whatnot.

Yeah, and it's unlikely Mighty will be back either. He was kind of a Knuckles/Sonic clone.
I would love to see Fang come back, and he has the most chance of doing so than any other 'dropped' character.
Tails Doll was most likely a joke character, even though I love him to bits, I'd like to see him come back too but the chances are almost zero.

PS. I too am back after a long hiatus. 😛
(I bet no-one remembers me.)

Who knows? I thought Rouge would never come back, and look what happened!

Rouge is arguably more popular, or I should say more well-known than Bean, Bark, Ray, and Mighty.

She creeps me out, though.

Well, if she creeps you out. 😛

Eh, I'd like to see um... Fang come back. More as a mercenary than a jewel-thief, just so he can be differenciated a little more from Rouge. Otherwise he's just going to be seen as a male Rouge with a buck-tooth and a gun.

Rouge the Bat and Miles Prower are my two favorite characters.

I do think SEGA should drop the "Tails" moniker though cause it's not marketable anymore.

I'd like to say what I think of that but that would be over the board's age limit.

So I'll simply say that it won't work.

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Because switching the name of a character, a name which everyone knows, out with the other name which relatively few people know of is naturally a great and brilliant move.

Just like Sega making a new console!

Yeah, I like your sarcasm.

I also like the fact that you don't most non Sonic fans think that "Tails" is a girl and many of them dismiss the Sonic series as a "kid friendly" franchise. Yamaguchi's original name is much,much better.

I believe the truth to the rumor is the opposite of what this topic, I believe that SEGA is changing the current characters' personities and giving them face lifts, I also believe that SEGA is lifting the "kid friendly" mentality and will give the series a more "teen angst" attitute. After all the series is 15, so it could be going through puberty.

So please don't start with the flames just because I don't think "Tails" is a cute and marketable name anymore doesn't be I hate the name.

Thanks, I like your honesty.

While I don't doubt they're going to (hopefully) make the series take a slightly more serious tone, I don't think angsty is exactly it... that's Shadow's territory.

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Yamaguchi's original name is much,much better.

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So in other words a cheesy pun is better than a catchy, memorable name that has been used for the entire existence of the character?

Besides, if they start calling Tails "Miles Prower" again, he'll be the only character other than Gerald and Maria Robotnik to have a first and last name that is canon in the Sega Sonic continuity.

And anyway, Tails sucks.

Well... switching Tails' name to Miles wouldn't be SO bad. SEGA did change Robotnik's name back to Eggman, a name that only fans that were familiar with the Japanese version of Sonic knew of.

On the whole old characters coming back "rumor", I think it has abut as much weight as the NiGHTS sequel rumor :-p

And that's my two cents.

*fades back into obscurity*

Aaaand Omega wasn't just a token Gamma clone?

Not really. Gamma was essentially a robot shell being controlled by the bird inside, rather than vice versa, which is the usual for Robotnik's robots. Omega is a few screws loose and simply wants to take down Eggman. For all intents and purposes, Gamma is dead and gone anyway.

I don't think they should change Tails' name, people are too familiar with his current one. They should just kill him. Detonate his head!!!!

Well... switching Tails' name to Miles wouldn't be SO bad. SEGA did change Robotnik's name back to Eggman, a name that only fans that were familiar with the Japanese version of Sonic knew of.

Was it just the first Sonic game he was called 'Eggman' in Japan? I can't remember.

No, it's been every last one, actually. They got it the other way around - while here Robotnik got a name change to Eggman, over there Eggman's family name was revealed to be Robotnik.

Still, over there, he always has been and always will be Dr. Eggman.

I meant Omega is just a token E-series 'bot, hence the "Gamma" clone bit.

Well, sure. Except Omega is the next series up. And even so, that'd make him a Beta clone rather than a Gamma clone, cause Beta was technically first.

Except Omega is ALSO an e-100 series. And I meant they only included him because they "killed" off Gamma, so they couldn't use him.
But then he appears in Battle, and make me loathe Omega even more.:">

Omega is from the E-200 series, not E-100.

He's from the E-100

His number is E-123