Damn, I really like Sonic Battle. I hope it's not dismissed as being uncanon.
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This would imply she DID quit after SA2 as promised, and gives Sonic Battle another harsh shove to the edge of the continuity canon.
Maybe not, Craig, I may just prove that Sonic Battle comes after Shadow. Perhaps, at the end of Shadow, Rouge decides she want to be the Prez's secret Agent again. BTW, Craig, the Shadow site you showed is almost the exact same as the American, uh, just in case you didn't know.
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Damn, I really like Sonic Battle. I hope it's not dismissed as being uncanon.
Because it makes all the difference.
Intro....with sound!!!!:
media.cube.ign.com/media/...ids_1.html
they edited out "hell" and Maria's falling.
After seeing that vid, I find it odd how maria getting shot in that flash back. Is abit different from how it happens in SA2, well maybe it'll be explained better later in the game.
Overlord
um...please, oh please, oh please don't let that be the final audio...could Shadow have been any more emotionless when they shot Maria? I mean come on! SA2's Shadow put so much emotion into that line, screaming out her name... Sega/Sonic Team, please don't screw this up...
"Courage is not the absence of fear, only the belief that something is more important than fear"
I've just watched all the trailers, and I am VERY against the new Shadow voice. It sounds way too flat, un-emotional and just plain crap.
I mean, come on! How hard is it sound angsty?!
Wow. Despite Shadow's voice no longer having that cool Shadow quality anymore, the voice acting is no where near as bad as I was dreading.
Intro is rushed and silly, but it starts better than Sonic Heroes'.
They should stick to the SA1 style intro and go into an in-game cutscene from the getgo.
Keep this in mind: The spoiler data from Janucheese comes from a user named BlackArms, whose credibility is under question.
Darker... Stronger... Faster... and more sexually attractive than ever...
*leers absent-mindedly*
Even if you don't allow for Sonic Battle's Shadow having his memory back, Shadow never cuts a break does he? He seems to lose more memories in every game.
And it was really mean of Rouge to not tell him what she knew about his past.
I've always figured that Shadow was the original. I mean, why else would he be kept seperate from the robots, hidden in an underground chamber with a powerful robot guard?
CUZ EGGMAN WAS SAVING HIM JUST FOR YYYOOOOOO*splattered, Halo 2 multiplayer-style*
But, seriously, do we have to dig up the Bug-bitten remains of the Sonic Heroes topic so we can see what we finally decided on?
Nothing was decided. Nothing will be until it's confirmed by the games. It's hinted that the Shadow in Heroes is an android. Strongly. Also hinted and anti-hinted simultaneously in Battle. But not confirmed. As long as the confirmation remains absent, it's up for debate.
*sigh* That's what I was afraid of.
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It's hinted that the Shadow in Heroes is an android. Strongly.
Now, if my memory is correct, strongly hinted is too light a term for it. A much more accurate description is "telling you it without using the word robot or android".
Some people claim that they're hinting at him being an android, then digging deep into the game's story for proof that he's not an android. But this game is directed at KIDS, so do you think those kids will look for every little bit of proof deep inside the game? No, they're gonna go by what was put in front of them. And what was put in front of them? Hints that Shadow's an android.
So... let's get back on topic.
The video was okay. It wasn't as bad as I feared, but wasn't near as good as I'd hoped. I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the angst! It's too flat and boring. It needs emotion and it'll be good eventually.
Now, if my memory is correct, strongly hinted is too light a term for it. A much more accurate description is "telling you it without using the word robot or android".
Actually, Rouge says the word robot. DID I EVE TEL U SHADOW WUZ A ROBOTOOO??? O WEL N/M KTHXBAI OMEGA
Ontopic, I saw the intro. Terrible. Not like I expected better.
Well, the intro was shorter than I thought it would be, and Jason Griffith actually sounds slightly different than he did for Shadow in Sonic X. The Black Arms invasion was also the definition of the word "Sudden" wasn't it? 
I always thought that Sonic would have been in the opening as well, for some reason.
Any way, I guess it was okay. Although, I suspect things should pick up from there (story wise) as from then on Shadow's potential paths will open, making it more immersive.
ALRIGHT, NOW I'M SPOOKED. In the video we had from the beginning that creo ripped the pics from, when the ARC flys over Earth, the Eclipe Cannon opens.
WTD?
This must be a flashback, or some such.
Yea i'm nearly positive it is a flashback. I wondered the same thing the first few times I saw it, but I don't see why someone else can't just go up there and use it again though(assuming it is a flashback)...it's still there up for grabs.
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I don't see why someone else can't just go up there and use it again though
Other than the cannon being destroyed at the end of Good stoey in SA2?
And then being eaten by Lizardhead in Last story?
When Sonic and Shadow teleport the ARK away from its course,
The eclipse cannon is nowhere to be found. It's just not there.
Wow I never realized that. Hehehe...*creeps away*
Gamespot posted a new preview yesterday. Link. Here are some key points and my thoughts.
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As we mentioned, the game will feature a rudimentary morality system that tracks your actions as you go, so if you attack Black Arms soldiers you'll accumulate light points, whereas if you clock G.U.N. soldiers you'll rack up dark points. Each point type will be tracked in onscreen meters, and when your meters are full you'll have access to a powerful special move.
It would appear the chaos powers will function similarly to team blasts. Only now, it seems you can't cheaply charge it up just by atacking air or collecting rings.
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The mechanics work so-so as a whole. The classic Sonic the Hedgehog-style moves--running, jumping, railsliding, and so on--work as well as they did before. However, the additional mechanics take some getting used to and don't feel very polished in their implementation at the moment. The shooting mechanics are manageable, although aiming is a bit of a chore. Vehicles run the gamut from traditional vehicles, such as jeeps, which don't feel quite right, to high-jumping mechs that handle well. The light and dark powers are an interesting twist that sounds cool in theory, but feels a bit awkward in practice right now.
So they recycled the same game engine, and cheaply tacked on weapons, vehichles and powers, nice.
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The areas you'll race through are impressively large, although they make use of the time-honored Sonic gimmick of showing you a vast environment and then keeping you confined to a fairly narrow path while moving through it.
Time-honored gimmick? Try again when the idea is at least ten years old, and is actualy good.
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The graphics are marred a touch by the game's camera, which is spastic when the action speeds up, resulting in awkward camera angles that can make it tough to keep your bearings.
Yet another of Sonic Team's "time-honored gimicks."
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The voice acting is mostly decent. As always, you'll hear a few stinkers in the bunch, mostly due to an overabundance of enthusiasm and inflection, but nothing appears to be set to ruin the whole experience.
This is what happens when you replace Sega of America's best with 4Kids most mediocre.
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If Sonic Team can smooth over the rough spots we've mentioned and give the game a good layer of polish, Shadow the Hedgehog has the potential to be an engaging entry in the Sonic family tree.
This game comes out in less than a month, and Ricardo Torres expects Sonic Team to polish it into something good by then? I'm no expert in game development, but logicaly it takes more than a month to work out snags like this.
In conclusion, more of the same "time-honored gimicks", and plenty of cheaply tacked-on aditions, have dashed almost all hope I once had for this game.
THE HECK???
MY ENTIRE POST DELETED BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID ERROR????
IT AIN'T FAIIIIIR!!!!
THIS GREATLY OFFENDS ME!
Quote from Ricardo Torres (from the link posted by TMX5):
The menacing leader of the invading alien forces [Black Doom] apparently knows our hero [Shadow] in some capacity, but Shadow's faulty memory has left him unsure of the nature of his relationship with Black Doom. Were they drinking buddies? Did they date in the early '60s?
LOL! XD
There is a new shadow trailer on gamespot. This trailer shows a HUGE spoiler! "On a side note how do u use Spoiler tags?"
Really? What is it? Click "HTML" at the top of your post screen and put:
<table><tr><td bgcolor=black><font color=black><font color=white>Spoilers (Select To Read)</font><br> (PUT YOUR SPOILER HERE) </font></td></tr></table>.
And on a sidfe note I have a cool new sig. Likey? 
| Spoilers (Select To Read) Someone reativates the Eclipse Cannon and fires it at some city most likely the capital city from SA2! The beam itself destroys three G.U.N ships before striking the White House!then after destroying that the beam creates a huge explosion,the shockwave knocks out the power and shatters all the windows, even causes small fires and other smaller explosions before the camra pans back showing this huge green Akira like explosion |
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cool sig!
What the heck is wrong with my post?
You broke the tables, sir.
On-topic: I'm not liking the impressions of Shadow so far. I might not get it.
Aahahahahahahaahahahaha @ the messed up schick from the html. On a side note...yes can someone please perform surgery on the two posts before mine.
*OMG Power Rangers theme*
Go Go Mod-e-ra-tooors!
Go Go Mod-e-ra-tooors!
Go Go Mod-e-ra-tooors,
Post Editing Mod-e-ra-tooors!
*crappy karate action!*
*campy plastic monsters!*
*nonexistant plot!*
*SH does battle with the fearsome runaway table!*
SH: It's no good! We'll need our Mod-azords!
*Fwing!*
SH: Still no good! We'll need to fuse our Mod-azords into one!
*Fwing!*
*The fearsome runaway table is no more!*
Mods: Yeah! That's the power of teamwork!
Vectordon: Good job, Moderators! But the evil Lord Embedd, Deleta RePerlsa and their underlings are still at large!
...
Vectordon: Oh, and I think there was some MoFo Rangers thing that predated you all by, like, several years.
*Unoriginal'd!*
This game comes out in less than a month, and Ricardo Torres expects Sonic Team to polish it into something good by then? I'm no expert in game development, but logicaly it takes more than a month to work out snags like this.
It takes more than a month to certify the damn thing. It's either gold or it's going to be delayed.
Hey, I'm not too sure if this has been posted, but IGN has 7 new movies up, and a preview. Here's the link to the preview: cube.ign.com/articles/660/660521p1.html and a link to the movies: media.cube.ign.com/media/...ids_1.html
In the movies, Sonic's voice sounds ok, but he sounds way too "happy and enthusiastic" I guess you could call it. Knuckles sounds ok, different from Sonic X and Charmy sounds pretty crappy to me. Also, in the movie with the President in it, I wonder where that photo of Sonic and Shadow together was taken...??
That picture on the Gamespot preview better not be a Chao garden, or I'm hurting someone.
Thanks for the link to the movies! I wondered about that photo too...maybe after Sonic Heroes? Voice acting sounds OK...Sonic actually sounds fairly good, remember "happy and enthusiastic" is Sonic's thing. I'd still prefer Ryan's voice though...on the brighter side Shadow's voice is actually pretty good! It also looks like they're going for the "constant chatter during gameplay" thing like they did with Sonic Heroes.
Somebody kill me now my ears they bleed Knuckles' new voice is the worst "knuckles" i have ever heard.
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That picture on the Gamespot preview better not be a Chao garden, or I'm hurting someone.
With rings in it? I doubt it. Besides, since when do they float around the garden?
looking at that pic on Gamespot it looks like the chao are back but not the Chao Garden. must be a mission objective,I bet cream gives you a mission to find Cheese.
*Puts on E-series robot's Voice*
"I have found Cheese."
"This Chao is the real cheese"
"No! My Chao's the right one!"
Interesting. I wonder why there would be that many chao in a level. *ponders "Find Cheese" mission, and Shadow looking for the bowtie*
And omg sig update.
i'm already feeling that the constant character babble would annoy me. oo; charmy's voice sounds like amy's voice actor trying to sound like tails. (strange, yes.. but that's how it sounds!)
still going to get this game, after seeing the videos my interest has doubled.
I hope Vector isn't in this game or there's a Japanese voice option. Otherwise I am absolutely not even considering coming within 10 feet of this game.
Well Wonderbat sorry to tell ya but Vector IS in the game.
Well then, if there's no Japanese voice option I'm hunting down each and every 4Kids voice actor and cutting their throats like Eels.
EDIT: ZOMG 800 POSTS WOOO
Mind if I help you in your task wonderbat. I perfer the japanese voices myself. but at least the president's voice is good.
It was good? It made me cringe. It was a little over the top.
Wonder...Vec's voice is great. Oh wait the 4Kids VA I forgot. I still don't mind it, though. I'm so glad to see the Chaotix are in this game as well. They're getting some exposure.
Hey again. There is a new trailer from Gamespot (not sure if it is already on here). Here's the link: www.gamespot.com/gamecube...l?mode=all
It's called "Official Trailer 4". It shows gameplay with the motorbike, the jeep, and a sports car...
Yea saw that one contains a spoiler. I wonder if you could crash the bike then jump out of the explosion with a any type of gun and shoot it at other sorounding baddies? I think Chaos Spear should be a power,it would be a neutral chaos power so you charge both bars. sadly sega/sonic team are not SMART enough to use this idea.
Wow, Shadow has a jeep now?
Yes, yes, I know I should be saying 'Wow, Shadow has a sports car now'. So sue me.
since we're on the topic of voices for a bit, I finally heard Vec's 4kids actor and I could picture him saying
Vec: HEY GAMBI! </peewee>
