If the gun were an OPTIONAL power-up, they wouldn't be putting so much emphasis on it. Unless their point is "Oh, you can go without the gun, but you'd be a damn fool not to since the game ramps up in difficulty 20 times over if you don't".
Either way, that Shadow doesn't start with the gun doesn't make my feelings heighten any more. I'm still going to wait until the rental before my final say, but I still am NOT too excited.
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Maybe he has it in [fictional] pocket during that certain cutscene or something.
One of the screenshots I posted, Shadow doesnt have a gun during the GAMEPLAY.
I know that my name sorta invalidates anything I'd say; The fact that I don't like Shadow like I did when I made this name over a year ago will very likely be overlooked, but okay. Anyway...
Alright, first things first: I'm REALLY looking forward to this game. No more treasure hunting, no more clunky mechs, no more fishing, no more annoying pink hedgehogs. true, it aint the blue hedgehog, but its the gameplay that counts. As evident in the trailer, the game is going to be fast (And if there are a FEW parts where you might have to slow down to clear out an area of baddies, I won't complain either) and you can still kill baddies with a homing attack (Also in trailer).
Next: Tainting the Sonic name. I think you're getting worked up. 1. No matter how popular the game, I'd put money on the fact Sonic will never wield a gun, UNLESS its in some sort of mini game. Shadow is seen as a darker charachter, so giving him a weapon wouldn't create as much of a stir as if it was the happy sonic (From a charachter standpoint, not gameplay). 2. Its not sonic. a SHADOW game is getting a T (Most likely, anyway. While I'm not betting on it, I wouldn't say it cant be E.) and if its not Sonic pulling the tirgger, why go gettign scared Sonic os getting darker? They're just trying to show Shadow is dark, and IMO, people should atleast look at it and say "Hes not a Sonic Clone anymore" (Not completely anyway. I mean, besides for sonics moves, you see him flying/gliding, using Chaos Powers, using various guns, and his personality all just inforce hes meant as something different.
Now gameplay-wise, I can see where you're concerned, but it doesn't seem logical. You have Chaos Powers and jumping. Also, in regards to SH's post about it making the game harder: Well, perhaps this should be a welcome addition. I beat everything in Heroes with EASE (Besides for a couple of Emeralds) and I consider myself a less than skilled gamer. I mean, come on, I even beat S3&K with all Super Emeralds. If not using the guns provided a challenge, I'll welcome it as a Sonic (Or, Shadow) game that actually provides a challenge to an average+ gamer. That said, I DOUBT not using guns boosts the difficulty that much. Also, people are scared that the Guns lowers the speed of the game? Why complain when we dont KNOW that? Perhaps theres an auto-target system. Who knows. All I know is we're all getting worked up on something where we've seen ONE TRAILER. Come on, we see one trailer and already everyones ranting on how the GAMEPLAY slows things down. Cmon, atleast wait till a bit more screens/trailers/demos/information. Also, remember that December is awhile away.
Alright, I'm gonna post more later, when I'm not feeling so tired. Perhaps stayinmg up till 230 in the morning to play Star Fox: Assault wasnt such a good idea. Oh, and forgive the rant and perhaps the fact that paragraph 2 doesnt make sense: I sorta lost the idea I was proving halfway through. Basically, I just wanna say theres no point in getting worried about gameplay when we've seen so little of it. The after effects will very likely not be as dire as many have suggested, and the game MIGHT just be good, even if the guns are REQUIRED. We might not be seeing them in the way Sonic Team Intends for us to use them. And...I'll shutup now, seeing as this is most likely a rant that is not readable, and brings up irrelevant points. G'day/Night.
I don't think you got what I was saying; read back several pages, I made this really long rant that nobody replied to... it was about how it would break up the gameplay if, to shoot something, you had to STOP, not just once or twice, but SEVERAL TIMES. How the crap is something supposed to be speedy and fast-paced if you have to STOP? It's Heroes' biggest flaw (like, it ecliipses all other problems with the game), and it really makes me irritated that they don't give a flying semprini.
This was a franchise that was centered around smooth, seamless gameplay. A franchise where you could be guaranteed you would be able to get to point A to point B without excessive stopping and much, much running. Now it's completely lost its focus, at least in the 3D realm.
Yeah, I can see what you mean Shadow Hog, I'm pretty sure this is running off of the Heroes engine, and thusly it stands to reason that the gun will be like "Power" formation, able to take out the enemies with ease (which may tie in to why he has it), whereas conventional SA2 attacks will, as with Heroes, bounce off and you spend about 9 jumps until one dies, whiich is just as slow and annoying as ever.
I wonder if they're trying to recreate Sonic Heroes with only one character, as people hated all the characters shoved into Heroes and also the switching.
Thanks, Lighthead. I didn't think that quoting EE's post in mine'd be necessary.
You're holding that person at gunpoint and telling her to accept the opinion, more or less. If EnergyEmerald is infringing on someone's right to freedom of speech, then I'm afraid the same thing is happening to EnergyEmerald.
IS SO INSULTING!!! =O
Geez, lighten up.
No.
We've never claimed complete freedom of speech. We do have restrictions on what you can say here.
It's called "following the rules". You accept that you've got to do it when you sign up to the board.
If you can't handle the fact that you haven't got the freedom to shoot your mouth off at anyone or anything you please, then not having understood that in the first place is your problem and nobody else's. Don't get on my case for it.
As it is, EE's apologised. Which, if it doesn't happen again, is okay.
Thank you, EE. 🙂
*tips hat to EE, and exits*
Carry on, everyone. 🙂
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I prefer PSX's movie poster, it has alot more effort put into it than that one.
As the sort-of-creator of that image I have to take exception to that comment. I wasn't trying to come up with a movie poster, at most I would call it DVD box art. And I felt that, while I did like PSX's job, I didn't have to cover the image in text to make my joke, which is all it was. I mean, did you even notice that on the original box art for Shaft, Samuel L Jackson was standing in front of the same building that Shadow is now?
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According to Sonic Stadium this is NOT the game that Yuji naka has been working on...
Then, it's settled. This will be the best Sonic game ever.
-Shakudo-
Yay! I'm happy again! ^_^
EE 
Something I thought I emphasized in my last post a few pages back apparently wasn't understood, so I'll re-explain what I meant...
I had said I was surprised by this game because SEGA has been so protective of Sonic's image, and I explained that I DID NOT mean just the character Sonic, but the image of the games as a whole. SEGA always seemed to want Sonic games to be very kid-friendly (yet not be childish), and this game doesn't seem to be that. Even though it doesn't have the "Sonic" name, it's just as much Sonic as Knuckles Chaotix was.
Of course, that's not going to stop me from playing the game, I just find it really, really odd that they would give Shadow realistic guns. It probably could have been a really good game with a good, dark story without them.
It's just a thought that occured to me but I think Shadow is using G.U.N. arsenals, which ARE human's weapons afterall. Probably why the guns are twice as big as he is!
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I wonder if they're trying to recreate Sonic Heroes with only one character, as people hated all the characters shoved into Heroes and also the switching.
You know Craig I think they could've done that wih Super Sonic in Heroes. He can definetly fly...has the speed and power is no problem. Now normal Shadow trying to take on all three, is a different story. Although he can do it...afterall he is the best character in the series. *banned form the forum*
P.S. Craig nice comic....
Well, Shadow could pull off Speed Formation easily. With a press of a button his jet boots could have him in "fly formation" and another button will set off his "power formation" guns. Which is basically the way this reads to me, instead of switching, you're using the ability associated with that formation.
It doesnt sound that bad, we've still got another mainstream Sonic Game to pull of an improved engine, and this spin off to tie up Shadow's story and let the series move on...
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Sam, my post was to nytloc. He quoted you without quotes. 😛
*snip!*
don't drain VGcat's bandwidth, craig has already provided a link to the comic.
-ChibiBecca.
Whoops! Sorry, didn't know I couldn't do that. My bad.
I think the game might work too, I'm just saying that the game is obviously the result of that internet poll that SEGA did asking what people want in a game, and it seems that a lot of people replied with "GIEV SHADOW GUNS". I'm also generally pissed off because it's probably going to get an adult rating, which means I won't be allowed to get it, and I'm also pissed off because I voted Knuckles...
OK, rant over, I'll shut up now and stop voicing my opinions on a forum made for voicing your opinions. I'm sorry. (puts on the dunce cap and sits in the 'I'M A LITTLE GIRL WHO DON'T KNOW NOTHING' corner)
Yeah sounds like this title could really divide the fanship, especially if this sells well and Sega is more willing to take more risks...not like I care...
But hey it could be worse...we could get something along the lines of Amy Rose Hot Beach Volleyball or something along those lines...
I'm also generally pissed off because it's probably going to get an adult rating
Not a chance. It has to have blood and swearing to get an M. I doubt they'll go that far.
I mean in England, love. EUROPE. The continent where blood must be coloured green and game companies are prosecuted when kids shoot people.
Are you sure we're talking about England or the US...
If you are talking about England then I must ask where have you been? There are so many people clamoring for clamping down on the gaming industry, including many who I affiliate with politically (Or close to it)...
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OK, rant over, I'll shut up now and stop voicing my opinions on a forum made for voicing your opinions. I'm sorry. (puts on the dunce cap and sits in the 'I'M A LITTLE GIRL WHO DON'T KNOW NOTHING' corner)
You knew more than I did about SFGHQ...
As for the poll, this game was probably in development before the poll, it does take more than 3/4 months to make a game you know...
But, on the other hand, a Knuckles fighter game would be interesting, but possibly just as adult as this one...
I suppose...
Actually, the "blood" (I'm skeptical as to if it is) looks pink, and technically, Shadow isn't a kid. Of course, Shadow is ageless, so he could be considered a kid.
PS: Someone tell me how to quote!!! I hate doing it with the stupid underdash character.
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Actually, the "blood"
Does this mean the next TRUE Sonic game might have blood in it? (it happened with Second Sight and Timeplitters...)
People need to stop whining about the "rating." The only difference ratings-wise is the that gun looks somewhat realistic and Shadow kills genetically engineered monsters and knocks over humans. To talk like this is GTA or even anything with a substantive ratings difference from any other Sonic game is assinine. Actually the killing of live monsters (not seen before except in SA2) is the only thing I see as potentially more objectionable, and nobody seems to mention that.
And the blizzard of concern over the poor kiddies is somewhat reminiscent of all the kids who want games to be "mature," although less annoying. Age-based ratings are silly and the people they're supposed to protect are precisely the ones most likely to find value in what they're supposed to be protected from because society tells them they aren't supposed to have it.
Please. Whenever I talk to kids about video games (mostly boys), they always talk about how cool it was to see some zombie's brains blow up and how friggin' cool Halo is. Today's average pre-teen has played more mature games than the average adult did when they were that age.
Behold the future of the world. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Try because they didn't have that many video games back then.
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But hey it could be worse...we could get something along the lines of Amy Rose Hot Beach Volleyball or something along those lines...
Now that game would kick ass if it had Rouge in it.
-Shakudo-
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Try because they didn't have that many video games back then.
I disagree. There were plenty of video games out there in the early '90s, etc. The only difference now is that games these days are usually more violent. Back then, games were mainly for kids, thus they weren't as violent as they are now. Now, games are usually more mainstream and aimed at all ages and no longer children.
You see, the kids of yesteryear have grown up and most of them usually want their games to grow up with them. Not that I'm saying this about the current new Shadow games but there's a right way to do this and a wrong way. Hopefully Sonic Team will do this the right way. Don't go over the top or anything. Again, not talking about about the gun or anything but it's possible to have a series storyline without guns. Just don't have any silly scripts, keep the plot series, etc. and you're basically set.
I wouldn't mind the gun at all if the gameplay is good and features intense levels of speeds and plenty of action. From the following trailer it seems the game will accomplish just that. The gun is the least of my problems, I just want the gameplay to be good. For now, I'll continue to wait for more details, trailers, and screenshots for the game, until I eventually play it myself. Then we'll finally see for ourselves if this game is good, respectively.
I will honest to God cry if they have corny and silly lines in a game like this...
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To talk like this is GTA or even anything with a substantive ratings difference from any other Sonic game is assinine.
It might still get a M in US. I predict a 12+ or 16+ in UK.
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It might still get a M in US. I predict a 12+ or 16+ in UK.
No way. Not a chance in the US. It would have to be filled with blood, gore, and cussing for it to get such a rating. They won't go that far, I think. Seriously, just because Shadow is now using a gun in this game doesn't mean they will go over the top.
At the very least I expect this game to get an E-10 or T rating.
I predict a T-Rating for this game, I doubt it will rise to M level...but if so it will make me even more excited about the game.
it wont get over a 12+ in the uk, that would be stupid...
It could easily get a 12+, but talking about it being a 16+ is just being assinine
It may get a T rating because of the realistic gun and weapons but I don't know. It could still get away with an E rating considering Ratchet and Clank had guns and lots of them (Though it got the E rating for being cartoony basically) so I don't know...
ahhhhhhh i know what it is they're gonna release it with another KICK ASS soic game with awsome graphics that make you cry thinking about? lol i hope............................................................................................
Maybe the guy just wasn't holding B.
I blame hackers...the bad kind mind you...
Since this hasn't been shown here yet I might as well post it myself, taken from the GHZ's newsboard (also, you can check out the scans of the article from there):
The latest issue of UK magazine Gamesmaster features an in-depth preview of the new Sonic the Hedgehog game, including a brief interview with Takashi Iizukia. A number of interesting facts are embedded within the articles garish hyperactive layout.
Firstly, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Dr Eggman play a pivotal role in the story. In true Sonic tradition, both Eggman and the blue hedgehog are searching for the Chaos Emeralds. Shadow also desires the gems and players can decide which characters Shadow collaborates with to retrieve the Emeralds.
Secondly, while the gun is an integral part of the gameplay, it is only one of the weapons available. As the game progresses, Shadow develops his mastery of Chaos energy allowing him to slow down enemies and rewind time, in addition to the Chaos explosions witnessed in the trailers. Shadow can also steal weapons both from GUN and a mystery alien race who, in adhering to another story telling clich, are planning to annihilate life on Earth.
Finally, Iizukia is fully aware of the mysteries Shadow has generated and aims to use this new game to perhaps reveal the answers to those questions.
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Finally, Iizukia is fully aware of the mysteries Shadow has generated and aims to use this new game to perhaps reveal the answers to those questions.
PERHAPS???
PERHAPS???
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He'd better or i'll, i'll...
Write a serious letter of complaint, and then Sega will be sorryy... of yes it will..
And if im still made in 6 monthstime i might just not buy the game, possibly lowering sales overall by 0.000000000001% Ha, what will they do with their precious profits then? 
That's better.
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Shadow can also steal weapons both from GUN and a mystery alien race who, in adhering to another story telling clich, are planning to annihilate life on Earth.
Has Sega been reading Archie lately?
Nonetheless, the article sounds intresting and the core characters are still in it. A conversation including Shadow and Knuckles over Emeralds might be intresting and comically insuing.
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...a mystery alien race who, in adhering to another story telling clich, are planning to annihilate life on Earth.
I still think Sega's being coy and misleading with the whole alien bit. Those enemies look way too similar to Chaos for them to be extraterrestrial. Unless Chaos turns out to be an alien as well, in which case someone better warn Tikal!
-Shakudo-
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Has Sega been reading Archie lately?
They always read Archie. They have to approve of each storyline before published. 😛
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Shadow develops his mastery of Chaos energy allowing him to slow down enemies and rewind time,
Reminds me of a certain title called Prince of Persia Sands of Time. 😛
This was a given, considering they were already giving us the option of using Chaos Energy, which can be used to control time as shown in SA2 and Heroes. Shadow used it to slow down time when he saw Sonic for the first time, since he tried to attack Shadow. Also in SH when Team Dark did their Chaos Inferno attack (otherwise known as Team Blast) near a bunch of opponents and wiped out all their enemies with ease. Everything else was frozen solid in time for a few seconds, except the Team themselves.
Hopefully this will be implanted well and add more to the gameplay, just like in Sands of Time.
I actually like the idea of Sonic *and maybe tails* heading off to go save the world from aliens in another planet, but i think it could only be done in 2D and it has potential to be great, good enough to even get a title like Sonic the Hedgehog 4...although i really think Sonic Adventure and SA2 were in keep with the Genesis series *and obviously sticking CD in there* so maybe Sonic the Hedgehog 6 or 7, anyways, the whole Sonic ------ needs to go, maybe its just this lack of "the Hedgehog" that has recently brought the quality of Sonic games down, he needs his title...
OMG! Epsio has discovered the success of the Shadow the hedgehog game....... its the words "the hedgehog" that are brainwashing us into thinking that this is just as good as the old genesis titles. Its so simple and was sitting right in front of us this whole time!!
so was what I said
