ROFL!!!
RR, that was a good one. I can't stop laughing!
Why use two obscure characters who have been dead for decades, and not the well established mascot whose already made one game set in a living fantasy world?
In short, you answered your own question.
Except that Alex Kidd appeared in Sega Superstars Tennis, and as for Wonderboy, it would have been a great time to revive him(or that girl from Monster World IV) and maybe to finally bring the Sega Ages Monster World Collection to NA/PAL lands. I mean NiGHTS was revived. Sega has a huge library of classic IPs, and they are just wasting away that huge potential for an update. :-/
The best thing about the info that was given is that the soundtrack will have Celtic renditions of Sonic themes. Otherwise, meh.
Classic doesn't mean marketable. NiGHTS was a risk too, but even then, things like that happen less often than they ACTUALLY HAPPEN. And a minor playable appearance in a sports/party game doesn't exactly mean they have the justification to give him a revival.
And even then, what about your comments in other threads about using spin off titles to try different play styles and ideas? Isn't that EXACTLY what they're doing here?
Merlina? what happened to Merlin, Who the Heck's Merlina, his neice,sounds like a type of exotic beverege. But seriously this is like the 10th new female
sonic character weve gotten this decade, man Sonic sure is a player ain't he. seriously though, Merlina?
Obviously, Sega's trying to capitalize on the popularity of SonicXShahra and hoping for SonicXMerlina fic soon.
Anyway, I tried going to the ftp site and I couldn't find any thing about SBK; could somebody link to it please? I'm just glad that this doesn't seem to be on-rails, and then I'm guessing that these "storybook" games are not canon to the other games, eh?
When I said spin off titles the first thing I thought of are characters other than Sonic, or at least Sonic and other characters, settings acting in character.
Sonic, who has been a living weapon for 17 years--the very reason why he's a hedgehog instead of an armadillo, has a sword. In Secret Rings he didn't wield a Scimitar. Sonic in his own damn RPG(a genre where most of the time, the hero is a swordsman) doesn't seem to wield a sword. Wasn't Sonic against using weapons in Shadow the Hedgehog?
Also if your other comment meant that it would be perfectly justifiable for Sega, for example to turn a potential Skies of Arcadia sequel into Sonic Chronicles 2: Sonic and the Sky Pirates because he's more marketable than the world of Skies, then Sega could go DIAF.
...meh, all of this will probably be moot if the game ends up being mediocre anyway. 😐
He was against using guns. He specifically mentioned being against guns.
When I said spin off titles the first thing I thought of are characters other than Sonic, or at least Sonic and other characters, settings acting in character.
Sonic, who has been a living weapon for 17 years--the very reason why he's a hedgehog instead of an armadillo, has a sword. In Secret Rings he didn't wield a Scimitar. Sonic in his own damn RPG(a genre where most of the time, the hero is a swordsman) doesn't seem to wield a sword. Wasn't Sonic against using weapons in Shadow the Hedgehog?
Also if your other comment meant that it would be perfectly justifiable for Sega, for example to turn a potential Skies of Arcadia sequel into Sonic Chronicles 2: Sonic and the Sky Pirates because he's more marketable than the world of Skies, then Sega could go DIAF.
...meh, all of this will probably be moot if the game ends up being mediocre anyway. 😐
There's making a sequal to a game like Skies, and then there's bringing back a 20 year old franchise that wasn't really that popular to begin with.
And even then, if they DID make a Sonic game set in an aerial land with similar enemies, what would exactly be the big deal? Hell, the guy's already battled pirates once, and he's had quite a few levels set in flying foretresses. And even then, that would only be a bad thing if they decided to make a new Skies game and then switched it to Sonic. This isn't done at the expense of an Alex Kidd or Sonic game, this is being done to draw from Sonic and the Secret Rings.
Has Sonic spent 20 years adventuring in fantasy worlds? No, perhaps not. But he also lives in a world of his own populated by chaos gods and magical emeralds that make islands float into the sky and turn you into a super saiyan. Some of his levels have been castles, too, or caves, or sometimes ruins. This isn't a stretch; it's not entirely the same, but it isn't a stretch.
And there are story and gameplay reasons for the sword. Calibur is a tool and mentor on his quest. If he's being given a weapon of some sort, even if it's to give him advice, Sonic's a smart chap - why not USE it? Plus it allows them other ways to increase the gameplay, what with the other purchasable items, and give the players something to attain and to enhance the gameplay. And even then, he's still running along really quickly, and he's not changing his core element - and hell, some of sword attacks are combined with his ability to spin around, as the article says, and then there's somethings he can do that he wouldn't be able to do otherwise, such as using the sword for wall repelling.
And even then, there's other games that change things up as much as this. Mario's all about using tools and power ups and jumping and hitting things, but the Paper Mario series uses game mechanics based on the fact that he's two dimensional or that he's made of paper.
No, he hasn't done a lot of these things before. But that doesn't mean he can't.
And personally, the importance of the spin attack coming from the fact that he's prickly is diminished when everyone, including the fuzzy, cuddly fox, and their grandmothers can do it.
I like you Razorsaw. Even if I disagree with a few of your points, and the general direction this series is heading(which at times feels like bad fan fiction), you still make some decent arguments. 
That said, I'm still not feeling this title(didn't like Secret Rings), and I'm skeptical that Sonic Team will deliver with this game in that I will actually enjoy it. I need to see it(or better yet, rent it since Wii lacks a demo channel) to believe it.
Holy crap. I kind of sort of won an argument.
...
*goes to check Hell's thermostat*
"If you help civilian townfolk in need of assistance, you'll earn points toward knighthood. If you smite one of those civilians, your reputation will take a hit. At the end of each stage, the game tallies your good and not-so-good deeds and updates your rank accordingly."
This is the strangest thing - Sonic can do evil deeds? So does this mean you can eventually become either the heroic and pure Sir Super Sonic, or the sinister and cruel Darkspined Knight?
"Each stage has multiple branching paths and searching for townsfolk and treasure chests provides an element of exploration that recalls Sonic's early Genesis days."
Wow. In my last post I predicted three weeks until we'd get the "ITZ RETURN TO SONIX ROOTZ!!" thing. They're really on top of things.
"And there will be no dinosaur eggs!"
Thank gawd. Shahra's comments on them every time you passed that point on the next lap was agony. I screamed worse things than what Sonic is in Shigamado's picture (nice one 
You too, RR).
The odd thing is that while Secret Rings was my least favourite Sonic game in years, I've met this one with no hard feelings - the artwork from the magazine cover was even kinda cool. After the Werehog nothing can surprise me anymore, thus the sword was no big deal, and the game's title immediately said to me that this was to be another adventure inside a story book world, thus Sonic's own world isn't further weirdified and odd crap is the norm. The control methods seems to be different - nunchuck stick to control Sonic, and it seems the running (hopefully) isn't automatic this time, so.. good.
Sonic and the Argonuats does sound good. Oh, oh - what about Sonic and the Chao-clate Factory, with Eggman as Wonka?
the Chao-clate Factory
>_< Okay, that's taking it too far!! Please see yourself out of the topic now, Cyber! ;p
Holy crap. I kind of sort of won an argument.
Nah, I still disagree with some of your points. I'm just too tired to argue back since it feels like I make the same points almost and have the same level of skepticism every time a new Sonic game is announced. At this point, the series(mainly the console games) feels like a train wreck to me. 
Anyone has a link to the pictures? I try the previous link but website seem to be down.
Based on the details it sound pretty interesting.
Edit- Never mind. Found a place.
Arthur, The Black Knight looks pretty bad ass.
Holy crap. I kind of sort of won an argument.
Nah, I still disagree with some of your points. I'm just too tired to argue back since it feels like I make the same points almost and have the same level of skepticism every time a new Sonic game is announced. At this point, the series(mainly the console games) feels like a train wreck to me.
If the other side quits, it is kind of sort of a victory. 😛 But I was mostly kidding anyway.
"If you help civilian townfolk in need of assistance, you'll earn points toward knighthood. If you smite one of those civilians, your reputation will take a hit. At the end of each stage, the game tallies your good and not-so-good deeds and updates your rank accordingly."
This is the strangest thing - Sonic can do evil deeds? So does this mean you can eventually become either the heroic and pure Sir Super Sonic, or the sinister and cruel Darkspined Knight?"Each stage has multiple branching paths and searching for townsfolk and treasure chests provides an element of exploration that recalls Sonic's early Genesis days."
Wow. In my last post I predicted three weeks until we'd get the "ITZ RETURN TO SONIX ROOTZ!!" thing. They're really on top of things."And there will be no dinosaur eggs!"
Thank gawd. Shahra's comments on them every time you passed that point on the next lap was agony. I screamed worse things than what Sonic is in Shigamado's picture (nice oneThe odd thing is that while Secret Rings was my least favourite Sonic game in years, I've met this one with no hard feelings - the artwork from the magazine cover was even kinda cool. After the Werehog nothing can surprise me anymore, thus the sword was no big deal, and the game's title immediately said to me that this was to be another adventure inside a story book world, thus Sonic's own world isn't further weirdified and odd crap is the norm. The control methods seems to be different - nunchuck stick to control Sonic, and it seems the running (hopefully) isn't automatic this time, so.. good.
Sonic and the Argonuats does sound good. Oh, oh - what about Sonic and the Chao-clate Factory, with Eggman as Wonka?
I wanna be a darkspine Knight, So looks like tells is sonic's squire aftrer all, I wonder if hill have coconuts like monty's did (clip clop)
This game may actually turn out to be funner the SR im getting excited!
-"This time, a sorceress named Merlina summons Sonic to the mythical realm of King Arthur, but it seems the fabled monarch has somehow been corrupted and now rules the land as the tyranical Black Knight."
Guys, do you realize what this means? Arthur is the Black Knight. Arthur is the Black Knight.
Arthur fights himself!
OMG!! your Right, So that means that theres 2 arthur,s...Warning Time Paradox,
FUTURE=Screwed
but serously, I really one a see a scan of the game with Tails holding coconuts!
Obviously, Cream will absolutely have to be cast as the Killer Rabbit.
Tails holding coconuts! Hahah! Cream asthe killer rabbit! XDXD! Oh how great that would be.
Tails holding coconuts! Hahah! Cream asthe killer rabbit! XDXD! Oh how great that would be.
It would be an oscar winner my friend no doubt about it!
Now who should be The singing prince, or the french soldiers ?
Eggman: What is the airspeed velocity of laden Flicky?
I got another idea! Blaze as Tim the Enchanter! And possibly an army of Emerls as the French soldiers? Hehe:
Emerl: Fetchez la vache!
Emerl lookalike: Que?
Emerl: Fetchez la vache!
I think I got that right.
Brillant just Brillant man Sega should come here for inspirattion
(ALTHOUGH I THINK SNIVLY & THE 6-S WOULD MAKE GOOD FRINCHIES)
snivly: I spit in your general Direction
Coconuts: Your mother was a Hamster & your Father was a scholery maid.
Scratch: Now go away before I taunt you a 2nd time!
Grounder: DRRR FLICKIES!
Chaos 0: We are the Knights that Say "Chao!"!
Sonic: You would'nt dare
KHSC: CHOA
S: STOP IT!
KHSC: No, CHAO! CHAO! CHAO!
S: ok, what do you want,
KHSC: A shrubbur!
S: A shrubby!
KHSC: Yes & not just any Shrubbery but A shrubby in the image of Tikal.
S: WHY?
KHSC: Becuase were very lonely men, now go or we shall say chao agian!
S: no you wont
KHSC CHAO!!!
S: sheesh, ok im going!
"Sonic Storybook Series?" NO.
You put known characters into the roles of other famous books/legends if you have no clue what to do with them otherwise but still are liscensed to make a video game about them. Sonic the Hedgehog should NEVER fall into this category. Ever. Sonic has an established mythology involving talking animals. robots, Chaos Emeralds, Magic Rings, and what not. By throwing that all away you leave yourself with a game who's main character could be swapped in FOR ANY OTHER CHARACTER IN EIXTANCE! Why Sonic and the Blackknight? It could be Hey Arnold! and the BlackKnight, or SpongeBog and the Black Knight. If you still want to have speedy segments in _____ and the Blacknight all you have to do is give them a Talisman or something. Sonic might have been losing his quality, but now he's losing his very soul. I am not pleased at all.
Then... don't buy the game?
Then... don't buy the game?
If people followed that advice, then maybe SEGA would finally g-
... Nope, disregard that. Foolish thinking on behalf on my part.
... I still think a new Wonderboy would've been somewhat more reasonable.
I will be honest, I want to trade in my Wii, but the fact that it's getting Sonic exclusives makes me want to keep the system.
Does this make me a delusional fan?
i could understand keeping it for brawl, but
So who does the Camelot dance sequence? the Chaotix? 😛
To be honest, if the game turns into a sort of panto with Sonic characters, I'd like that. But already with The Black Knight design, I can kind of predict that its going to feel as dry as previous Sonic titles.
Same thing happened with Secret Rings. Erazor Djinn looked terrible.
Why not make the Black Knight: Shadow or Metal Sonic or even Eggman?
Oh well. Graphically, it doesn't look that bad. And if it does focus on platforming and exploration it could be a lot of fun. A sort of speedy Zelda title.
I will be honest, I want to trade in my Wii, but the fact that it's getting Sonic exclusives makes me want to keep the system.
Does this make me a delusional fan?
Why would you want to trade in your wii? I mean its the funnest system out right now, Its Got Brawl, Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galalxy, & Nights: Journey into Dreams.
Not to Mention Some Fun Upcomoing Titles Like Mario Super Sluggers, FF:CCTCB Samba De Amigo, Sonic Unleashed (the Wii versions slightly diffrent you know) & of Course the Game Were all Talking about here, but Trading in your Wii why thats just Silly.
Why would you want to trade in your wii? I mean its the funnest system out right now, Its Got Brawl, Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galalxy, & Nights: Journey into Dreams.
Not to Mention Some Fun Upcomoing Titles Like Mario Super Sluggers, FF:CCTCB Samba De Amigo, Sonic Unleashed (the Wii versions slightly diffrent you know) & of Course the Game Were all Talking about here, but Trading in your Wii why thats just Silly.
I can't really tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but to reply to that: Brawl is just Melee with more characters, I've done everything I can in Twilight, same with Galaxy. Nights is fun but I'm pretty much done with that too. Super Sluggers isn't attracting me. I don't really care about Samba or anything FF. And the more I hear about the Wii version of Unleashed the more I'm reminded the Wii is getting PS2 equal games.
The Wii is a family system, and they stopped making games for core gamers after Mario Kart, which barely had anything from double dash.
On topic... um... maybe they'll have better mini games in this story book title?
I wasn't being Sarcastic the Wii's a great System, & well I Don't Get the Diffrence between a casual gamer & a hardcore gamer, ive played games my whole life & never considered myself hardcore?
(theres also a Wario & a Kirby game coming out for the Wii as well.)
(& the mario RPG hits virtual consle this winter.)
Wario Land: Shake It!. 'nuff said.
Granted, that's the only shining beacon of hope right now, but in my case I still have RE4, Zack and Wiki and Tomb Raider to finish (or start, in Tomb Raider's case), and I'd like to get Okami and Boom Blox. So my Wii should, technically, not be seeing a lack of use right now - it's the fact that Team Fortress 2 is much more addicting that is probably why it isn't, right now.
The Wii is a family system, and they stopped making games for core gamers after Mario Kart, which barely had anything from double dash.
I don't think that's really true. I really don't think Nintendo is going to stop making another Zelda for the system at least and there is Wario Shake around the corner. Third-parties are making games for it. And I'm not talking about shovelware or what's Sega doing with Sonic. I'm talking about actual promising titles for "hardcore" gamers such as Mad World, De Blob, Little King's Story, and Fragile to name a few. So you should be keeping your Wii(or any dang system) and actually research which games are coming for the system and I mean all of them from retail to the ones you download from your consoles.
Back on topic. *fistpounds Gammarrallyson and Magical Dreamer*
Yea anywho.... I think the wii has a lot of potenital (If only it would get a starfox game.) as for another Zelda ive heard some rumors that their might be one planned for a 2010 release, but rumors are seldomly true, anyway back on topic I gotta say S&TBK looks like a pretty solid game, admittingly i too think sonic could go with out a sword, but then again sonic & co. did use a sword a time or 2 in the comics (The sword of acrons that is.) But I think as long as the levels & Interface is fun this game may just be a step up from S&SR. If only we could get some in game footage or at least a look at the intro.
As for a relaese date who else is thinkin Q2 09?
Related!
Oh Castle-vidcons! You slay me!
That was Marvelous, Im spechlees, BEST COMIC STRIP EVER!!!!!
"Sonic Storybook Series?" NO.
You put known characters into the roles of other famous books/legends if you have no clue what to do with them otherwise but still are liscensed to make a video game about them. Sonic the Hedgehog should NEVER fall into this category. Ever. Sonic has an established mythology involving talking animals. robots, Chaos Emeralds, Magic Rings, and what not. By throwing that all away you leave yourself with a game who's main character could be swapped in FOR ANY OTHER CHARACTER IN EIXTANCE! Why Sonic and the Blackknight? It could be Hey Arnold! and the BlackKnight, or SpongeBog and the Black Knight. If you still want to have speedy segments in _____ and the Blacknight all you have to do is give them a Talisman or something. Sonic might have been losing his quality, but now he's losing his very soul. I am not pleased at all.
I have to disagree with that. I think putting established characters from a franchise as "actors" in a known story is something very funny and entertaining for the reader/player, even if the new version of the story doesn't follow the original. Various Mickey and Donald comics as well as another more obscure brazilian comic I read have done this with their characters and the result is always a funny parody and makes for some of the best stories of all.
Seeing sonic characters reenact some stories is a fun idea in my opinion and I think it's better for Sonic to be sucked up by some different magical book which contains a magical separate universe every time, than adding princesses that cannot cry else they free a demon in his own universe and mess up all the "mythology" you were speaking of.
I agree Erika sonic 06 totally ruined continuity (or split it ,how ever you see it.) anywho I wouldn't mind seeing the storybook series lasting a while i mean theres so much potential...... (Such as Shadow of the Opera, or Pirates of angel Island. )but yea i prefere this over 06 anyday.
Various Mickey and Donald comics as well as another more obscure brazilian comic I read have done this with their characters and the result is always a funny parody and makes for some of the best stories of all.
To be fair, Mickey(especially him) and many of the Disney characters are more versatile "everyman" characters than most of the Sonic cast. It also helps that most Disney comics usually have better writing than any of the Sonic games. Sonic was established to have such an distinct personality and style that it would be a challenge to simple place him anywhere at the risk of out-of-characterization and losing his identity. Though I guess, some will argue that has already happen a long time ago making this point moot. =/
Also, reading the descriptions, this game sounds like an unholy cross between Secret Rings x Shadow the Hedgehog. Ew... 
The final boss will be Sephiroth.
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The final boss will be Sephiroth.
That would be awsome, I can see it now ,sonic teaming up with cloud, CHAOS HEARTS LOL!
(Sora might get pissed of though.)
Sorry I never replied to anyone's responses to my Wii rant. I've been away from the internets for nearly an entire day (yes, blasphemy I know). I was just livid after this year's E3 is all. I'm going to keep my Wii, because I realized I've kept every system I ever owned (with the exception of GC, because I got the Wii), and there may be a bright future ahead after all, and I need something to play my GC games on, among other reasons I discovered.
Anyway, on topic I return. That comic is hilarious, and I can see this game actually being pretty fun since it's not going to be on rails. Sonic needs to be free. I think it's kinda funny that the sword is bigger than Sonic.
Wait, where does this say this game isn't going to be on rails? All it says is that Sonic is controlled by the nunchuck control stick as opposed to the Wiimote.
It's true. It doesn't say it's not on rails, but considering on how the game is turning out, I doubt seriously that it will be on rails.
"Sonic Storybook Series?" NO.
You put known characters into the roles of other famous books/legends if you have no clue what to do with them otherwise but still are liscensed to make a video game about them. Sonic the Hedgehog should NEVER fall into this category. Ever. Sonic has an established mythology involving talking animals. robots, Chaos Emeralds, Magic Rings, and what not. By throwing that all away you leave yourself with a game who's main character could be swapped in FOR ANY OTHER CHARACTER IN EIXTANCE! Why Sonic and the Blackknight? It could be Hey Arnold! and the BlackKnight, or SpongeBog and the Black Knight. If you still want to have speedy segments in _____ and the Blacknight all you have to do is give them a Talisman or something. Sonic might have been losing his quality, but now he's losing his very soul. I am not pleased at all.
I have to disagree with that. I think putting established characters from a franchise as "actors" in a known story is something very funny and entertaining for the reader/player, even if the new version of the story doesn't follow the original. Various Mickey and Donald comics as well as another more obscure brazilian comic I read have done this with their characters and the result is always a funny parody and makes for some of the best stories of all.
Seeing sonic characters reenact some stories is a fun idea in my opinion and I think it's better for Sonic to be sucked up by some different magical book which contains a magical separate universe every time, than adding princesses that cannot cry else they free a demon in his own universe and mess up all the "mythology" you were speaking of.
You are overestimating how well sega is going to handle this.
One can hope, no? ;o;
I just hope that they have Shadow playing "famous historian" and Sonic getting arrested at the end
