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(@gt-koopa)
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Lets see if we can outdo each other. I'll start.


Chaos is really a giant amoeba, not a "water creature" like everyone suggests. The difference between Chaos and a regular amoeba is that it has multiple nuclei, ala Chaos Emeralds. This also means the Chao race are smaller giant amoebas as well.

tl/dr, Chaos and Chao are based on real things, and Sonic Team weren't just dicking around with made up creatures when making Sonic Adventure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(amoeba)

 
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The word "COPE" in Spring Yard Zone is an acronym which stands for "Computer Operated Palette Editor".

 
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Cheese is the illegitimate child of Chacron the Nigh-Unbeatable.

 
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Sonic 3s music was composed by Michael Jackson!

 
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Shadow is basically another version of Mewtwo. The similarities between them are numerous. First of all, both Shadow and Mewtwo are associated with a yasashi girl ('yasashi' refers to a category of characters who are generally pure-hearted, without even a hint of evil and malice, innocent, naïve and cheerful). Both of the names of these yasashi girls (ie. Maria and Amber) have 5 letters in them, though that's almost definitely just coincidental. Anyway, Amber died and Dr. Fuji's research was about cloning his deceased daughter so that he could try to bring her back to life in one way or another. Similarly, Maria had a life-threatening disease which Dr. Gerald was attempting to cure. Both Shadow and Mewtwo were genetically engineered not only to become the 'Ultimate Lifeform' and the 'Ultimate Pokémon' respectively, but also to save the life of the yasashi girls in question. The yasashi girls and the genetic experiments became best friends with each other. Both Maria and Ambertwo ended up dying, which devastated Shadow and Mewtwo respectively. Both Shadow and Mewtwo are often distrusting of others, but still have some heroic qualities to them. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have a prototype which predates their own existence; Biolizard for Shadow and Mew for Mewtwo. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have 6 letters and at least one 'w' in their names, though this doesn't seem to be significant (I just felt like mentioning it anyway! lol). Both Shadow and Mewtwo were manipulated by a villainous character; Dr. Eggman in Shadow's case and Giovanni in Mewtwo's case. Mewtwo even has a move in Super Smash Bros. Melee called 'Shadow Ball'. I don't care if that's just another coincidence! So anyway, there you have it!

Shadow = The Sonicverse's Mewtwo

Mewtwo = The Pokéverse's Shadow

 
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oh u(ekawa)!

 
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^ Blown mind is blown.

 
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Shadow is basically another version of Mewtwo. The similarities between them are numerous. First of all, both Shadow and Mewtwo are associated with a yasashi girl ('yasashi' refers to a category of characters who are generally pure-hearted, without even a hint of evil and malice, innocent, naïve and cheerful). Both of the names of these yasashi girls (ie. Maria and Amber) have 5 letters in them, though that's almost definitely just coincidental. Anyway, Amber died and Dr. Fuji's research was about cloning his deceased daughter so that he could try to bring her back to life in one way or another. Similarly, Maria had a life-threatening disease which Dr. Gerald was attempting to cure. Both Shadow and Mewtwo were genetically engineered not only to become the 'Ultimate Lifeform' and the 'Ultimate Pokémon' respectively, but also to save the life of the yasashi girls in question. The yasashi girls and the genetic experiments became best friends with each other. Both Maria and Ambertwo ended up dying, which devastated Shadow and Mewtwo respectively. Both Shadow and Mewtwo are often distrusting of others, but still have some heroic qualities to them. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have a prototype which predates their own existence; Biolizard for Shadow and Mew for Mewtwo. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have 6 letters and at least one 'w' in their names, though this doesn't seem to be significant (I just felt like mentioning it anyway! lol). Both Shadow and Mewtwo were manipulated by a villainous character; Dr. Eggman in Shadow's case and Giovanni in Mewtwo's case. Mewtwo even has a move in Super Smash Bros. Melee called 'Shadow Ball'. I don't care if that's just another coincidence! So anyway, there you have it!

Shadow = The Sonicverse's Mewtwo

Mewtwo = The Pokéverse's Shadow

I know I´ve shown this before. But Rishi reminded me of it so I thought I might as well repost it.

 
(@sailor-rose-dust)
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^ Wow. I never noticed the parallels.

 
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^ Wow. I never noticed the parallels.

I noticed some parallels between Chaos and Shadow, but I don't remember noticing all of them. And even if I did notice all of those parallels, they must've escaped my attention several years ago. o_o

 
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Shadow is basically another version of Mewtwo. The similarities between them are numerous. First of all, both Shadow and Mewtwo are associated with a yasashi girl ('yasashi' refers to a category of characters who are generally pure-hearted, without even a hint of evil and malice, innocent, naïve and cheerful). Both of the names of these yasashi girls (ie. Maria and Amber) have 5 letters in them, though that's almost definitely just coincidental. Anyway, Amber died and Dr. Fuji's research was about cloning his deceased daughter so that he could try to bring her back to life in one way or another. Similarly, Maria had a life-threatening disease which Dr. Gerald was attempting to cure. Both Shadow and Mewtwo were genetically engineered not only to become the 'Ultimate Lifeform' and the 'Ultimate Pokémon' respectively, but also to save the life of the yasashi girls in question. The yasashi girls and the genetic experiments became best friends with each other. Both Maria and Ambertwo ended up dying, which devastated Shadow and Mewtwo respectively. Both Shadow and Mewtwo are often distrusting of others, but still have some heroic qualities to them. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have a prototype which predates their own existence; Biolizard for Shadow and Mew for Mewtwo. Both Shadow and Mewtwo have 6 letters and at least one 'w' in their names, though this doesn't seem to be significant (I just felt like mentioning it anyway! lol). Both Shadow and Mewtwo were manipulated by a villainous character; Dr. Eggman in Shadow's case and Giovanni in Mewtwo's case. Mewtwo even has a move in Super Smash Bros. Melee called 'Shadow Ball'. I don't care if that's just another coincidence! So anyway, there you have it!

Shadow = The Sonicverse's Mewtwo

Mewtwo = The Pokéverse's Shadow

I know I´ve shown this before. But Rishi reminded me of it so I thought I might as well repost it.

o.o I wouldn't know about mewtwo (not a pokemon fan) but I don't recall noticing how similar Chaos and Shadow were until now. That was clever.

 
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Chaos had more friends than just Tikal if you count the Chao he watched over. I'm not sure whether Chaos would comprehend friendship the same way Shadow does though.

The Shadow/Mewtwo picture is by Netraptor and the Chaos/Shadow one by Neifirst, by the way. Just thought credit should have been there.

 
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Neifirst is me.

 
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LOLowned! @ Cyber

 
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Gaia is the name of the Earth goddess in Greek mythology.

 
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*Brain explodes*

 
(@shifty)
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NO. Gaia is the personification of the Earth

"wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects."-sonicsfan1991

 
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NO. Gaia is the personification of the Earth

Here's proof, Shift.

 
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It's both, actually.

Absolutely right. It's both, NOT one or the other.

 
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LOLowned! @ Cyber

Really? Do I have to be LOLowned? Regular owned I can see but LOLowned just seems so harsh XD I had suspected that Neifirst may be someone here but I had no idea for sure considering I don't spend that much time at DevArt (and none in the fanart forum here)- only enough to know I'd seen those two pictures before. I knew NR's style from years back when I hung out on her board, and I knew Nei's pic as I'd saved it long ago because I thought it was cool.

GT, is there official word on Chaos being based on the Chaos amoeba, or is it just an educated guess? It seems likely but I just wanted to know if it'd been said anywhere officially is all.

 
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No, the game seems to support more the idea that he is a water elemental creature.

 
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Sonic was originally going to have a human girlfriend named Madonna. So it seems that Sonic Team have been thinking of inter-species relations for over 15 years.

 
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^ Madonna? WUTTTTTTTTTTT????????????????

 
(@gt-koopa)
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Lots of people know Madonna's existence. Mister Needlemouse is an okay guy.

Also.

 
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Sonic x Madonna = bestialityshipping?

 
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The countries in Unleash represent some countries in Earth.

Apotos's flag resembles that of Greece.
Mazuri's flag design resembles that of Rwanda.
Spagonia's flag design resembles that of San Marino, even though the clock tower resembles Big Ben and the music and food is part Italian, part French.
Chun-nan's flag resembles that of China (shocking).
Shamar's flag resembles that of Jordan (change the colors and you'll see).
The only difference between the flag of Adabat and the one of Thailand is the shield.
The layouts between Empire City and the flag of the USA are different.
Holoska is quite different. Design-wise, resembles that of Somalia. Yet, location-wise, it resembles Antartica. I'll let you guys be the judge.

Now, is it just me or does the Eggmanland flag resemble that of Shadaloo?

 
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The BGM for the Echidna Tribe in Sonic Adventure 1 is the same musical score of Knuckles' Theme in Sonic 3 alone.

During the scene where the Master Emerald shards fall out into space in Sonic Adventure 2, if you take a good look, you can find a smiling constellation.

 
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omg i've seen that constellation. holy crab pies!

 
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the interspecies thing isn't really a bad thing. Just a whacky cartoony thing. Maybe TOO whacky and cartoony for Sonic. Just think about Jessica and Roger. Only thing that relationship was for laughs. not...seriousness.

 
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Odd that the portrayal of homosexual relationships in entertainment would be considered inappropriate for children, yet the portrayal of human-animal relationships in entertainment is ok.

I remember in the "Zelda blood thread" someone pointed out that if people bleed in real life the same should happen in-game (and I wasn't even complaining about the blood so much as about the inconsistency in the ESRB reaction to it) but it's not like what society regards as good or bad influences is based on reality in the first place. (ie. Accusing video games of lying about the effects of drugs, as if to imply that society was telling the truth)

 
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Holoska is quite different. Design-wise, resembles that of Somalia. Yet, location-wise, it resembles Antartica. I'll let you guys be the judge.

I've always thought that Holoska was at least partially based on Alaska, due to the obvious name similarities. Oh, one more thing:

EAT SOME FOOD, MADONNA!!! GODDAMN!!!

 
(@d-b-vulpix)
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yeah but Madonna is female and Sonic is male. Sooo its still heterosexual. .oh well it doesn't matter. She never made it off the drawing board. Quite literally. So none of it matters at all in the end.

Yeah. See. I kinda personally didn't look at Sonic and Elise's relationship as a "romance".

 
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<strong class="quote-title" B Vulpix wrote:


yeah but Madonna is female

How do you know that? It could be a TRAP!

 
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<strong class="quote-title" B Vulpix wrote:


yeah but Madonna is female and Sonic is male. Sooo its still heterosexual. .oh well it doesn't matter. She never made it off the drawing board. Quite literally. So none of it matters at all in the end.

Yeah. See. I kinda personally didn't look at Sonic and Elise's relationship as a "romance".

Yeah, but even if it's "still heterosexual" it's still human-animal; and homosexual relationships among human characters are still NOT human-animal. I guess they're being consistent, but they're being consistent within rather distorted priorities (which I'm not as inclined to respect as I used to be) and that's what I'm commenting on, especially since it seems like the social establishment often accuses entertainment of promoting "distorted values" (ironic, isn't it?)

 
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Yeah, but even if it's "still heterosexual" it's still human-animal; and homosexual relationships among human characters are still NOT human-animal. I guess they're being consistent, but they're being consistent within rather distorted priorities (which I'm not as inclined to respect as I used to be) and that's what I'm commenting on, especially since it seems like the social establishment often accuses entertainment of promoting "distorted values" (ironic, isn't it?)

*epic facepalm* Dude, it's just a franchise aimed primarily at young children.....

 
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Yeah, but even if it's "still heterosexual" it's still human-animal; and homosexual relationships among human characters are still NOT human-animal. I guess they're being consistent, but they're being consistent within rather distorted priorities (which I'm not as inclined to respect as I used to be) and that's what I'm commenting on, especially since it seems like the social establishment often accuses entertainment of promoting "distorted values" (ironic, isn't it?)

*epic facepalm* Dude, it's just a franchise aimed primarily at young children.....

What are you facepalming at ME for? I wasn't talking about the franchise itself, but the double standards in how society reacts to certain things in entertainment. Just what are you saying here, and what exactly about what I said is somehow facepalm-worthy?

 
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Vector the crocodile was intended to appear in the scrapped sound test for the original Sonic The Hedgehog game, thus technically making him the same age as Sonic and Eggman.

 
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You still have yet to say how anything I've said is in any way facepalm-worthy, Rishi.

 
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They'll probably avoid homosexual tones in a Sonic game because its a game franchise aimed at young children. I think thats what he meant.

 
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Tails lost his third tail in the freak accident that earned him his second tail. It's in Tails and the Music Maker. Canonicly that is between Flicky and Sonic 1

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<strong class="quote-title" B Vulpix wrote:


They'll probably avoid homosexual tones in a Sonic game because its a game franchise aimed at young children. I think thats what he meant.

Yeah, but my point was more so about asking why, especially when the portrayal of human-animal relationships is more acceptable. Then again, I guess that's off topic anyway.

 
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And how!

Tails lost his third tail in the freak accident that earned him his second tail. It's in Tails and the Music Maker. Canonicly that is between Flicky and Sonic 1


Tails and the Music Maker


Canon

 
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In many early screenshots of Marble Zone in Sonic 1, there are numerous objects resembling flying saucers floating in the sky. Footage of a prototype Marble Zone (complete with flying saucers) is shown during a commercial in the movie Wayne's World. No-one knows what the objects were for or why they were removed.

 
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Sonic and Shadow are hedgehog-like aliens from the now dead planet Shadow.

Sonic was shunted off to Earth as an infant and somehow lost his memory.

Shadow is the crown prince and is unknowningly the father of Silver.

 
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Shifty wrote:


Tails lost his third tail in the freak accident that earned him his second tail. It's in Tails and the Music Maker. Canonicly that is between Flicky and Sonic 1. It's in Tails and the Music Maker. Canonicly that is between Flicky and Sonic 1

lost his third tail in the freak accident that earned him his second tail

It´s late and my brain may not be working... but I don´t see how the above statement makes sense.

 
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Tails lost his third tail in the freak accident that earned him his second tail. It's in Tails and the Music Maker. Canonicly that is between Flicky and Sonic 1

wait wha?

 
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This is clearly a result of how poorly distributed Tails and the Music Maker was.

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Sonic and Shadow are hedgehog-like aliens from the now dead planet Shadow.

Sonic was shunted off to Earth as an infant and somehow lost his memory.

Shadow is the crown prince and is unknowningly the father of Silver.

Something from Sonic 06? I never played that game. >_>

 
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Yet another allusion to DBZ plotlines. Except... you know... completely made up.

 
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