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(@janucheese)
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http://www.sonicstadium.org/board/index.php?showtopic=10194

seems that this might be the "Sonic Next" that we've heard about.....but it seems that it will be for PS2 as well?

what do you think?

 
(@mr-creosote)
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There was something about Sonic R extreme earlier in the year, but Sega put that down to an error. I wonder if it has anything to do with this.

*Waits to see if Sega release any details about this*

 
(@janucheese)
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well some ppl think that Sonic Rush was the rumored R Extreme.

anyway, the article translates to:

"Sonic Riders with Sega in work

07.09.05 - Sega communicates Sonic Riders, which is to appear for the PlayStation2, Xbox and Gamecube into the Famistu the development of the running play. The level of development is with 70 per cent, producer with the Sonic team is Yuda Koshi and up to four friends is in the divided screen to play to be able.

Well-known characters such as Sonic, Storm, Knuckles, Miles and jet The Hawk participate in running Dr. Robotnik on air boards, in order to receive chaos a Emerald as victory premium. One full-led cheat and to special maneuvers, in order to detach its contractors. One uses the air turbulences of ahead-driving pilots, hunt one on air with an extra thrust upward and finds e.g. abbreviations.

However drivers can kindle also turbulences in the air, by which pursuers turn out in centrifuges. Release: Winter 2005/2006 (Japan)"

new characters?

 
(@da-muthalovin-jman)
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NO NO NO NO

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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THREE.

 
(@one-tru-blu)
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what do you think?


CENSORED

Seriously, all it needs is Manic from Sonic Underground to finish it off. ._.;

 
(@mr-creosote)
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(@one-tru-blu)
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Hang on Creosote, you've got it all wrong...


eXtreme!

That's better.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Those are the two best uses of my tranparificationcrops I've seen so far. 😛

I wonder how long sega will last now...And I wonder where the rights to Sonic will go when they die.

 
(@janucheese)
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here's the article of the link that HSW posted:

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Sonic Goes eXtreme
New multiplatform racing title to feature all your favorite characters.
by IGN Staff
September 7, 2005 - Just as we were starting to think that Shadow had taken over the Sonic franchise for the remainder of 2005, Sega makes the surprise announcement of an all-new racing game featuring Sonic and friends. The latest issue of Famitsu reveals that Sonic Riders is being developed by Sonic Team for a Winter Japanese release on the Xbox, PS2 and GameCube this winter. Serving as producer is Yuda Koshi, a veteran of Sonic development who's also worked on Puyo Puyo and Space Channel 5.

In Sonic Riders, Dr. Robotnik has set up a speed challenge, and all the Sonic characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog, Knuckles the Echidna, Storm the Albatross, Jet the Hawk, Miles "Tails" Prower and Web the Swallow, have decided to compete. To the victor goes a Chaos Emerald.
Unlike the classic Sega Saturn racer Sonic R (now appearing as a game in Sonic Gems Collection), Sonic Riders promises an "eXtreme" experience. Yes, Sega is actually using this buzz word that we thought had died two years ago to promote the game. Sonic and friends speed through tracks on air boards, using individual special moves to strike down opponents.

Air is a big element of Sonic Riders. Your board's "fuel" source is air. You can fill up your air at various points on the course, but to race well you'll have to use another means of replenishment: performing tricks with your board. You'll also want to make use of turbulence from racers who are in front of you. By riding your rival racers' turbulence, you get a burst of speed and can even make your board leap into the air (sometimes finding shortcuts in the course). Your air supply remains fixed when riding turbulence, making this a tactic that you'll want to employ as you play the game. Turbulence isn't all good, though, as players can generate irregularities in their turbulence, knocking those who are along for a free ride out of the course.

Sega is planning a whole lot of gameplay for Sonic Riders. Expect numerous tracks, including such Sonic fare as Splash Canyon, Egg Factory, Green Cave and Sandy Ruin. The game will offer a number of different modes, including two and four player split screen.

Sega of Japan will be holding a press conference in Tokyo on Friday to show off some of its upcoming plans for the Sonic series, and we expect Sonic Riders to make an appearance there, followed by a showing at the Tokyo Game Show. Sonic fans, stay tuned for much more to come.[end


 
(@deckman92)
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TO THE EXTREME!!! *headbang*

To be honest, I'd probably like this game if those characters are never used again. It doesn't sound like a bad idea for a spinoff.

That being said, I'm still waiting for a real Sonic game to come out.

 
(@mr-creosote)
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Pic- Team Artail (Sonic X eps 57)

 
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Storm the Albatross, Jet the Hawk, Web the Swallow. Well seeing as they be birds i would asume that there would be some flying involved unless they be robots. And the more i read about it, Sonic Riders sounds like that Ratchet and Clank hover board mini game. The way you replenish fuel with tricks. In R&C however it was boost.

I'm willing to give it a go though. if it plays like a mix SSX or Wipeout might be quite fun.

Also i'm willing to bet a heck of a lot of hidden characters, Shadow, Rouge, Amy, Cream etc. But maybe even Tails Doll and Metal Knuckles. Your hopes and dreams get smashed soon.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Lalala, and lalala.

Oookaaaay...I think I'm done biting the prospect for now.

 
(@shadonic_1722027905)
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A Sonic racing game? You what this means.

The return of the souless one. The Tails Doll :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil :evil

 
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Well-known characters such as Sonic, Storm, Knuckles, Miles and jet The Hawk


D:

 
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Fear my lack of HTML.
Created a Photobucket account for that

 
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Sonic could work really well as a racing game, but it doesn't need the addition of vehicles. Sonic R had about the right idea, but the execution was flawed. Oh well, at least they're not being put into cars again.

I can't imagine what new characters could possibly offer that the large cast of existing characters can't. And does Knuckles even guard the Master Emerald any more? Bah.

Since the game revolves around hovering vehicles I'll be disappointed if we don't see the return of Fang the Sniper and his Marvelous Queen airbike.

 
(@swifthom_1722585705)
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Hang on, X Box, Ps2 and gamecube?

So it's NOT the next gen Sonic titles...
PHEW, there's hope yet.

Although I have nothing against Sega making spin off games for Sonic, it ISNT good if it means no proper games...
I want a PROPER Adventure game (not a Sonic adventue game, just a proper Sonic game) and I want it on the new consoles coming out....

 
(@tornadot)
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Obviously enough people emailed Sega demanding a sequel to NIGHTS and Sega took it as demanding a sequel for Sonic R.

More new characters? We're going to start forgetting them all after awhile...and I'll give you say a day before there are huge factions dedicated to these new characters...

 
(@janucheese)
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"Hang on, X Box, Ps2 and gamecube?

So it's NOT the next gen Sonic titles...
PHEW, there's hope yet."

this shouldn't be "Sonic Next" because:

#1-"Sonic Next" is supposed to reflect the tech demo. that means it should be an Adventure type game at the least.

#2-"Sonic Next" is supposed to be for the upcoming consoles not the current ones. i believe that this one just popped out of nowhere.

 
(@gremlinfanjohn1986)
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Does Knuckles even guard the Master Emerald anymore?


Good point. I assume that Bomb and Heavy now guard the Master Emerald when Knuckles goes off for adventure.

 
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I'd like courses based on levels from older Sonic games, besides the usual *whatever* Hill Zones.

*is dissapointed the announcement isn't Sonic Battle 2*

 
(@matt7325)
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Of all the new characters they could make, *why* do they have three birds? One, I could tolerate, but three seems to be the literal definition of overkill. If they were that desperate for flying characters, they could use Ray and Bean and Fang...

 
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moo

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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Wonky link.

What, you mean this? Hey, I waited a whole minute for you to fix it!

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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Yes, I did, but I was too busy with Chem homework (yes, at 1 AM) to deal with it.

Anyway, EspioKaos claims that, after skimming the article, the three bird characters belong to a group called "Babylon". Not sure what the reference implies about the group, or if they just chose it because "Babylon" is a nice word, but nonetheless, they're part of Babylon.

Ya know, it'd be neat if Babylon turned out to be Battlecock XV's army...

 
(@rob-the-fox_1722585680)
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Amy's probably in the game, you can see her in the 4-player screen on the second scan.

 
(@ducttaped32x)
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The screenshots remind me of HydroThunder for some reason. Nevertheless, this game looks like it would fit in better at an arcade than a home console library. I'm not doubting this game, I just don't understand why it's being made.

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Although I have nothing against Sega making spin off games for Sonic, it ISNT good if it means no proper games...
I want a PROPER Adventure game (not a Sonic adventue game, just a proper Sonic game) and I want it on the new consoles coming out....


I agree entirely.

I also don't understand the logic behing introducing even more new characters, unless they're grown up flickies, who decided to host an XTREME racing tournament on their island to welcome Sonic back. Oops, did I spoil the plot?

To quote Simon Jeffrey, the Pres of Sega of America, about the future of Sonic, "We think we've got it right, and we're pretty excited about where we're going."

Your tactics must be way over my head then, because this doesn't seem like the right direction to me.

*takes a deep breath and counts to 10*


 
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Anyway, EspioKaos claims that, after skimming the article, the three bird characters belong to a group called "Babylon".


Aha. Queer as Folk ends, and characters flock to Sega for a new job.

Seriously though, wasn't Babylon the name of Rouge's club in Sonic Battle?

 
(@rob-the-fox_1722585680)
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No, Rouge's club was called 'Club Rouge".' I believe you are thinking of the area it is in, 'Night Babylon.'

 
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Gahh darn you banwidth. *downloads whole magazine*

Edit 1 : The area where the entrances to Club "Rouge" and Gimmee Shelter was called Night Babylon.

Edit 2 : It doesnt look too bad really. not sure about the new birdy characters need a better look methinks. Amy is in. You can tell by all the pink. and seeing as there is a picture of Sonic in 8th there is another character on that demo. Championship mode could be Team Sonic Vs Babylon and two others.

 
(@matt7325)
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Ah yeah, that's right. I wouldn't mind a bit of a tie-in to Battle, though.

 
(@dopefish)
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Wait, do we need another new GREEN bird character? What about poor ol' Bean? :<

Man, Blaze, and now these birds, none feel like Sonic characters, in my opinion. It's probably because I've seen very little of them, and haven't had time to get used to them, but I loved Big and Rouge on the spot.

* Sigh * Hopefully they can pull off "XTREEEEEME spinoff game" better than the board game.

and Fang better make a comeback.

 
(@very-crazy-penguin_1722585704)
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It looks like it could be good! I hope there's plenty of courses and we don't get a repeat of Sonic R.

The bird characters look decent enough, but I'd rather have had a return from "Speedy" - Battlecock XVI (son of Great Battlecock XV).

 
(@the-skoot)
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Big the Cat? What the hell is Big the sodding Cat doing in a racing game? Not exactly aerodynamic now, is he?

Character selection gripes aside, I'm going to reserve judgement on this until I at least see some footage, but it doesn't exactly fill me with excitement.

EDIT: Oh, that's one of the birds. My bad.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Well well well, it actually looks decent. Sonic's spikes look asif they'll move fluently when you go at high speed, Knux's dreads will do the same, etc.

Thank GIZOID that they're not using the Heroes models, though. ...But the new models don't look too good either. Their limbs seem to be longer and more elastic, Tails' hair and Knux's dreads also look longer. Ew.

Still unhappy about their COMPLETELY IDIOTIC ADDICTION to shoving new characters in. And the extreme thing is just wak, yo. Still, it might turn out okay.

Oh, and note there's the 'Lv. 1' in the top corner of some of the shots. Maybe level ups will be part of this game too. ...I hope not...

Edit:

Big the Cat? What the hell is Big the sodding Cat doing in a racing game? Not exactly aerodynamic now, is he?

Uh, that's probably the albatross dude.

Edit 2: Aaand you realised just before I edited. kk.

 
(@the-skoot)
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Uh, that's probably the albatross dude.


Yeah, I figured that about ten seconds after I made the post ;) . Edited.

Here's the first page of that article, showing Sonic and Tails with funky new shades. And new boots for Sonic!

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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That isnt the legendary character Big the Cat.
That is either Jet The Hawk, Web The Swallow or Storm The Albatross. My bet is Storm the Albatross because Albatrosses are white. but then Hedgehogs aren't blue. hmmm.

Edit: well im just behind everyone.

 
(@hyper-sonic-warrior)
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Yeah...I edited again while you posted again. 😛

I think they all have new footwear. I know Tails does at least{and Sonic obviously}.

 
(@matt7325)
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Skoot - that's not Big, it's the new character, Storm the Albatross.

Web the Swallow, Jet the Hawk, and Storm the Albatross, respectively.

 
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www.the-magicbox.com/0509...907k.shtml

WOW:eek :] :] :] :] . The graphics look like they were from an Arcade game

 
(@janucheese)
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yeah, it looks nice.

and i'm pretty sure that once a video comes out, most of you will change your minds about this game much like ShtH and Sonic Rush.

 
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Can anyone tell me if I'm correct here?: I'm looking at the famitsu scans, and it seems to say Web is a 'Super Mechanic' when it comes to Air Boards, that Storm is physically strong and that Jet is the leader of Babylon, with 'Number 1!!' air technique (keep in mind this is only what I can put together with my very limited ability with reading Japanese ^^; ).

Anyway, this all makes me think Web = Tail's Rival, Storm = Knux's rival, Jet = Sonic's rival.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Just a Sec
Jet = Leader
Web = Mechanic
Storm = Strong
Team Babylon for Sonic Heroes 2 starts now.

*Heavily bricked*

I still say for championship/story mode It could be Team Sonic Vs Babylon with 2 mobile chicanes. (Trulli train? F1 fans will know)
So for a roster we got
Sonic The Hedgehog
Miles "Tails" Prower (Or Kilometers Prower under EU legistration soon)
Knuckles the Echidna
Amy Rose
Jet The Hawk
Web The Swallow
Storm The Albatross
(One More Character on demostration since Sonic is 8th on one picture)

 
(@very-crazy-penguin_1722585704)
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Emerald Guardian over at GHZ said that "Web" is probably a mistranslation of "Wave".

I don't think Amy's there.

 
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Amy is in there.

On Page two of the Famitsu article there is a four player race and it goes
Sonic Tails
Knux Amy

Wave The Swallow. hmmmm. sounds better than Web i suppose.

Edit: Darn dial up modem going slowly.

i23.photobucket.com/album...rscopy.jpg

 
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Eew...the new characters look like they'd be in a Spyro or Crash Bandicoot game rather than a Sonic game...

 
(@janucheese)
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not really. Jet especially looks like Bean.

anyway, it seems that United Game Artists are the masterminds behind this.

from what i've heard, they're good.

also, does anybody remember this?:

it's a DC game called "Trickstyle".

 
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