xD! For real Rabid. Eggman's greatest creation my butt. 😛
Oh come on. Are they even trying? There better be a second phase to that fight, like "haha remember this? OK NOW GET A LOAD OF THIS!"
Fixed.
Oh come on. Are they even trying? There better be a second phase to that fight, like "haha remember this? OK NOW GET A LOAD OF THIS!"
Fixed.
THAT. would be too great.
Eh I've already faced that boss enough. First I want that thing to spit spikes out once you hit Robotnik. Once you've hit him 6 times, he flings it at you and then starts to rain down tracking missiles. Then once you somehow hit him once then...
so the game will only be 5 bucks?
Oh come on. Are they even trying? There better be a second phase to that fight, like "haha remember this? OK NOW HERE'S THIS!" cause that's just balls.
Literally it would seem. 
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B Vulpix wrote:
so the game will only be 5 bucks?
Well, if that's what 400 Xbox points (or whatever you call them) equates to then yeah, maybe. Although it could change before release date.
Two things I've got to say though:
1) Cel shaded Egg-O-Matic looks like dick.
2) I want to make sweet, sweet love to that item monitor.
(Click image to enlarge and see it in all its sexiness)
I want to make sweet, sweet love to that item monitor.
But... it's not even 16:9. D:
How many times are they going to repeat ball swing Robotnik with inferior graphics? S3&K, Sonic Advance, Sonic 4, and Sonc 1 is still the best looking version.
This game still looks eh to me. Imagine in an alternative universe, we would have gotten a Sonic 4 by Treasure(or better yet, OG Sonic Team) instead of Dimps and an game that is animated by Production I.G. like in WarioWare Shake instead of this awful Sonic Blast/psuedo cel-shaded crud.
Seriously, who wouldn't want a Sonic game modeled after this pencil test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eu461ThMAA&NR=1
Hey, I read that article weeks ago and wasn't this written by the same guy who was denouncing MM9's graphics? Hypocrite, much?
They'd rather that games never evolved
1. Apparently he thinks that "unoriginal clone of a 16 bit game, but with s*** graphics" is evolution as long as it involves 3D rendering.
2. After the game comes out he will probably be quite eager to complain if it does suck.
I think his name for critical fans would be better applied to himself. Intelligent critical fans do not complain about things that are actually good. For example, even an easy target like SonicNEXT got its soundtrack praised. At least he was right about speed and the 16-bit redesign nonsense.
and an game that is animated by Production I.G. like in WarioWare Shake instead of this awful Sonic Blast/psuedo cel-shaded crud.
Seriously, who wouldn't want a Sonic game modeled after this pencil test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eu461ThMAA&NR=1
I can't tell you how long I've been saying that, even before Warioland: Shake Dimension, so I totally agreie on that point - although the animation studio behind the Sonic CD cutscenes was the marvelous Toei, so I'd rather have them back. Only downsides are that a) Sega would probably insist that the current design is used rather than that used in CD, and b) they'd still have to make the game work. All well and good it it looks pretty, but if it doesn't play well then it'd be regarded the same as Sonic06.
But as you were saying with Warioland, dude, in that game, when Wario jumps in that accelerator cannon thing and starts running like hell, all the while I was thinking "This should be Sonic. This is the Sonic game I've been longing for."
I would love to see Sonic CD's intro be the standard look for Sonic, it's how I see him in my head.
On a similar not, what's your avatar taken from, Blue? I thought Sonic OVA but I don't remember rings being in that.
I am just going to leave this article by Destructoid for you to read Ashide
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Shadonic!
Have I told you lately, that I love you?
No really, cause if I didn't then I'm sorry! ;__;
Hahah! Rod Stewart is the man. But yea Robo, I thought it was the OVA as well. But I suppose there weren't any rings in there were there? Maybe it's a promo pic or something.
On a similar note, what's your avatar taken from, Blue? I thought Sonic OVA but I don't remember rings being in that.
I totally made it myself! 
100% Unofficial. Please don't steal.
Btw, Sonic 4 site updates for the BADNIK section and the CONCEPT ART section.
EDIT: Or at least, there will be in a couple of minutes
EDIT 2:
Well the BADNIKS have been updated:
(Its Newtron, the chameleon badnik from S1)
Still gots to wait 6 minutes (after THREE time-lock extensions) for the concept art update.
EDIT 3:
Ah, the cocept art is NEWTRON too.
Further updates this time next week (it's Sonic Foursday EVERY Thursday!) so the BADNIK and CONCEPT ART pages. Still no time-lock for the other FEATURED character though *cougheggmancough*, or for the other WALLPAPERS in the MULTIMEDIA section (in case anyones interested in that stuff).
Nice Blue. That's an awesome logo you got there. But NewTron...heck yea! He rocks!
Firstly, thanks Hyper. Much appreciated.
As for this "boycott" business - Is this just because boycotting is fashionable? What, they saw it work for 'Rage Against The Machine Vs. Simon Cowell for UK Christmas No. 1' and thought "that'll work"? C'mon, the majority of boycotts don't work, and the thing is that I don't think that enough people are dead against Sonic 4 for it to work this time.
As for their comments: "We will not buy a future sonic game, till we get a true successor to sonic 1/2"
Hold on. Do they only mean Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog 2? They're not counting Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles? Dude, these guys are clearly a bunch of radical-fanatical-extremists and will never be happy with what they've been given. Even Sega had done a Megaman 9 and recycled sprites from the original games and used the original coding, I doubt they'd be happy even then.
And the boycott doesn't even make sence. Like the article says, they'd just be throwing money at Sega to buy something they already own. I don't want to give them ideas, but how about they just don't by it.
Firstly, awesome work on the pic Blue, and I promise not to steal. 😛
Secondly, I don't get why Sonic 2 tends to be remembered more than S3&K, I know it's excelent, and some of the finest 2D gaming out there, but Sonic 3 wasn't exactly breaking tradition in any major way. Personally I prefer Sonic 3 & Knuckles to almost all games ever made so I know I'm biased, but I still think the boycotters are crazy.
Plus I don't really get boycotts, I chose to not by Activision titles due to their head Kotick being a complete arse, and I had no intention of convincing others of the same since it's my agenda. My brother ended up getting Modern Warfare 2 anyway so I've pretty much given up, but I was never trying to convince my brother either.
And I'll still buy this game most likely, it'll be cheap, it'll at least be something like Sonic Advance, which is okay as far as I'm concerned, since Advance was a lot of fun for me, but I can't be convinced that this game will be as bad as Heroes was, not right now at least.
Secondly, I don't get why Sonic 2 tends to be remembered more than S3&K
Maybe because Sonic 2 was a much, much bigger seller than S3&K. It didn't help that the later games were released when the same year as DKC1 and SNES was gaining in popularity in N.A.
And I'll still buy this game most likely, it'll be cheap, it'll at least be something like Sonic Advance, which is okay as far as I'm concerned, since Advance was a lot of fun for me, but I can't be convinced that this game will be as bad as Heroes was, not right now at least.
People are angry because they wanted a Sonic the Hedgehog 4, not a Sonic Advance 4 or a Sonic Rush 3. Though I think this petition/boycott/whatever is counter-productive since they not only giving Sega money anyway, but are supporting Backbone's garbage port jobs.
Until the game comes out they have no idea whether it'll play like Sonic 4 or LocoRoco. All this outrage over the game is just people wanting to be pissed off about something and nothing more.
but are supporting Backbone's garbage port jobs.
Oh yeah, that was a terrible choice on their part. Clearly they should be supporting the Virtual Console release. Excellent and faithful port from what I've been hearing.
Secondly, I don't get why Sonic 2 tends to be remembered more than S3&K
Maybe because Sonic 2 was a much, much bigger seller than S3&K. It didn't help that the later games were released when the same year as DKC1 and SNES was gaining in popularity in N.A.
And I'll still buy this game most likely, it'll be cheap, it'll at least be something like Sonic Advance, which is okay as far as I'm concerned, since Advance was a lot of fun for me, but I can't be convinced that this game will be as bad as Heroes was, not right now at least.
People are angry because they wanted a Sonic the Hedgehog 4, not a Sonic Advance 4 or a Sonic Rush 3. Though I think this petition/boycott/whatever is counter-productive since they not only giving Sega money anyway, but are supporting Backbone's garbage port jobs.
Sorry for not cleaning up the quote, under the weather and just want to give my response.
First: Yeah, I can understand that, but it's been over 15 years since both Sonic 3 and S&K were released, and with the amount of compilations it's easy to play through S3&K these days without needing to get both copies and see it in its full form. Not that I don't think Sonic 2 isn't fantastic, but I have more issues with it that I do S3 or S&K.
Second: Again, I can understand that, but for the most part what most complaints seem to regard are the looks. Had Sonic Advance been called Sonic 4 back in 2002 it probably would have gotten away with it, or if Sonic Adventure was called Sonic 4 it would've been accepted at the time. The main issue, as far as I can tell, is a lot of people want Sonic 4 to look like it came out in 1995/6 for the Saturn, rather than just the old gameplay.
As for the gameplay it doesn't look like Sonic Rush to me, and I'm pretty sure most people who've played Rush know this. Graphically you may have a case, but gameplay looks like it might live up to some of our hopes that it will play much more like the early 90s titles.
Until the game comes out they have no idea whether it'll play like Sonic 4 or LocoRoco. All this outrage over the game is just people wanting to be pissed off about something and nothing more.
This. I mean, we have no way of knowing yet if this is gonna be a "Sonic Advance 4" or a "Sonic Rush 3," and to say that now is very silly with as little as we know or have seen.
ScottyMoFoSho wrote:
A metaphorical lunch.
Enjoy.
I wondered when or if someone was going to post that here. It's pretty funny.
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Until the game comes out they have no idea whether it'll play like Sonic 4 or LocoRoco. All this outrage over the game is just people wanting to be pissed off about something and nothing more.
Well, we do have some impressions from one person who supposedly played the alpha version of the game who claims it plays like Sonic Advance 2, but that's just one person's perpective and who knows if they will/did tweak the physics engine in time for release/since then.
...wait Backbone is porting this?! Considering the stellar job they did with some of the Capcom releases, I'm pleased.
*slow claps*
when are online petitions ever valid for ANYTHING?
MattManiac7325 wrote:
Until the game comes out they have no idea whether it'll play like Sonic 4 or LocoRoco. All this outrage over the game is just people wanting to be pissed off about something and nothing more.
lol Maybe these people are probably so consumed by the Sonic Cycle that they don't know what to do, so they just get angry... because thats the only way they know how to react.
The Turtle Guy wrote:
We will not buy a future sonic game, till we get a true successor to sonic 1/2
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Oh! I just got it!! XD Awesome stuff, TTG.
MattManiac7325 wrote:
Until the game comes out they have no idea whether it'll play like Sonic 4 or LocoRoco. All this outrage over the game is just people wanting to be pissed off about something and nothing more.
lol Maybe these people are probably so consumed by the Sonic Cycle that they don't know what to do, so they just get angry... because thats the only way they know how to react.
Or it could just be that because we've been burned so many times, we have no reason to believe otherwise.
I could just as easily accuse everyone that's excited for this of being overly optimistic Sega lap-dogs.
I have no reason to believe anything Sega claims at this point.
Nobody does, but there's no real reason to make yourself look like complete idiots at this point...Sonic fans get ridiculed for doing exactly these reactions, simply for throwing a fit about things we ALL know Sega don't have any intention of doing.
The main argument is: If we all KNOW this Sega Doucheness to be true, why worry about it any more?
One good 2D game isn't going to change a damn thing, Sega will never change sonic back to the older version, and it's always going to be the same problems because this isn't the same Company that it was when the older games were being made...so how can anyone ever expect the newer staff and designers to 'get' what you wish...because they simply don't work the same way now as they used to.
I never claimed to care. But the skeptics aren't the only ones who are being idiots.
The ones who are all "Oh lookie! Classic Badniks, classic bosses! This surely means that Sonic's well on his way to a revival! It's even called Sonic 4!!!111!" are just as bad.
The Sonic fanbase is just too diverse now. Even if a "Sonic 4" released looking like it came from the time period of like 1997 it would still annoy some people out there. No matter what Sega releases in terms of Sonic, someone will be upset 😮
lol Maybe these people are probably so consumed by the Sonic Cycle that they don't know what to do, so they just get angry... because thats the only way they know how to react.
Or it could just be that because we've been burned so many times, we have no reason to believe otherwise.
I could just as easily accuse everyone that's excited for this of being overly optimistic Sega lap-dogs.
I have no reason to believe anything Sega claims at this point.
I was specifically talking about these boycott people. For them to go as far as to threaten a boycott. I was just commenting that its quite an extreme reaction. Nothing wrong with being upset or disappointed, but c'mon, you said "we've been burned so many times", so by that logic by now there's no need for these overblown immature reactions if its to be expected.
But I think you're "lap-dog" comment is a tad unfair. Maybe some people really are looking forward to it for their own reasons. Maybe they already know and have come to terms with the fact that it won't ever be like the originals and are making the best of what they can. Maybe aren't as strict as to what "Sonic 4" should be. People have a right to get excited - it brings a nice positive atmosphere to an otherwise dismal communtiy.
Personally, I've experienced both sides of the scale. I not so much sitting on the fence as I am doing a sexy cha-cha along it. I mean, I've been sceptical from the beginning but I've found things about this game that I have got excited about (music, presentation) and things that have caused be some concern (crappy cel-shading, general sence of 'recycling'), so I have no preference towards either side of the arguement.
I still think it's way too early to protest this game. Right now my only big big complaint is that Sega was foolish in naming this Sonic the Hedgehog 4. But the game might still be good.
I'm curious to know what came first: this game, or Sonic 4. Did they decide to specifically make a Sonic 4 and this is the end result? Or did they want to make a 2D WiiWare (etc.) game and just decided to call it Sonic 4 when they realized they could? It's not like Sonic games don't have a history of changing their titles (Heroes, 2006, Secret Rings, Unleashed...)
Thats an interesting idea Matt. It puts some perspective on why Sega went on calling it by its codename for such a long while - they may have indeed been figuring out if they could get away with calling it Sonic 4. And if you look back at the pressumptions of a "Sonic 4" in this topic before the announcement, maybe we, the Sonic fans, decided for them...
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I suddenly feel very dirty...
Btw, I know that Secret Rings was originally called Wild Fire, and that Unleased was originally World Adventure (or at least, it is in Japan and was originally going to be Sonic Adventure 3), but what were the prototype names of Heroes and 2006?
Wasn't Heroes originally slated as Sonic Adventure 3?
I'm guessing that this is more after-the-fact regarding Heroes, which never really 'officially' made it as the third Adventure title for whatever reasons. They recently probably felt it would be a good little detail for Unleashed to do...but it seemingly never really came to pass in the end again for reasons only they know of.
So that why Eggman is reusing old Badniks. Even the Eggman is having money problems.
Are any of these things going to be original?
Wait, so only the red ones have spikes?
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Is it said that I don't even rem-
Oh ait...I just remembered where this guy is. Nevermind. Hahaha! But yea...Matt that's a very good thought, there. My guess is Sonic 4 came after they had started developing it. Just looking at all of the throwback enemies, etc. They probably realized..."Wait...there is nothing new about this...we should capture the hearts of old fans by calling Sonic 4 and making bundles of money. And maybe even a decent game. :O"
😛
IIRC correctly, Heroes, 2006, and Unleashed were all at some point scheduled to be called Sonic Adventure 3.
I'm all for the retro badniks, but I think Bubbles has to be one of my least favourites just cause it's so freaking annoying. Sad face 
Also, the "ruins of Angel Island"? Interesting way to put it...
I suppose the Marble Garden could be described as "ruins".
