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(@sonic-candy)
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You knew THIS was gonna happen. Bean and bark finally appered on the tv sceen of hard core sega games on gems. they even appered in the comic books.(But this sega sonic, no archie talk here ). My reason that they did not bring bean back is because of the 9/11 bombings. Thers no exuse for not bringing back bark. matter of fact:ALL the other lost characters('sep bean)should of came back because THERE IS no exuse that they should be cast away in to the darkness. Half of the new character are weck with no REAL RESION TO BE THERE!{another topic for another day} but lets disuss about bean and bark and the lost ones of sega and what you think about them.(sorry about the rambing earlyer ) edit:added pun.,removed smiles,and typed more info.

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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What on Earth did you just say?

 
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you knew THIS was gonna happen.bean and bark finally appered on the tv sceen of hard core sega games on gems. they even appered in the comic books.(but this sega sonic, no archie talk here)my resion that they did not bring bean back is becaus of the 9/11 bombings. thers no exuese for not bringing back bark. matter of fact:ALL the other lost characters('sep bean)should of came back because THERE IS no exuse that they should be cast away in to the darkness. half of the new character are weck with no REAL RESION TO BE THERE!{another topic for another day} but lets disuss about bean and bark and what you think about them.(sorry about the rambing earlyer )


That's what.

Now, allow me to TAAAAAAAAKE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOON thismessage *ahem*

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You knew this was inevitably going to happen: Bean and Bark finally get their due in public with the release of Sonic Gems Collection. Heck, they even appeared in the comics recently, but since this is South Island and not Knothole, we'll not go down that tangent.

I'm curious as to why these characters haven't been brought back. My theory behind Bean's absense is the attacks on 9/11 lending to a slightly less favorable look upon the comical use of bombs, but why Bark was left behind is beyond my comprehension.

Come to think of it, all the old characters should come back, instead of letting them waste away. After all, they have more use than more new characters, half of which are utterly weak and have no reason to exist (but let's save that for another topic.)

So anyway, my rambling aside, what does everyone think on this subject?


 
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Sonic Candy needs to go to the Sailor Distric to meet a particular sailor who just "loves" his/her writing style (I'm being playful yet a bit serious as I could not understand what was said by the author). If you find it offensive, I'll stop being funny and be more serious. 🙂

Ahem.

If Sega can tie these two characters into a new story (I highly doubt Bark and Bean appearing soon that since most critics want to see a Sonic game with just Sonic), then by all means return them to the games.

In the meanwhile, cameos would have to do (I'm thinking those "Exploration zones" in Sonic the Hedgehog (X-Box 360, PS3).

 
(@ww-the-hedgehog)
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Thanks Shadow Hog, you're a pal.

Regarding forgotten characters, I'd personally just rather have them stay that way.

Sega has already made it clear that the new characters are'nt going anywhere, and they already have to add a couple of new characters in each game as it is (Sarcastic Hah.), so really, there would'nt be any place for them.

This is just my take on the way Sonic Team thinks.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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1:I think they stoped putting bean in the games due to the 9/11 attack and bombings. bark should of made a comeback at least in sonic battle.(no sonic the fighters,no sonic battle?) 2:Also,they put team chaotix(who was created waaay before bean and bark)back in the games for some reason. 3:The reason the chaotix return(in my own view)is because the comics used them and sega saw that the comic was still popular after all those years and desided to please the sega crowd with the return of them(me being one of them) So i thought bean (or aleast bark)would be able to appear out of thin air like sega did with chaotix after they popped in. Or maybe its just me? EDIT:Used pun.and removed smileys

 
(@antipode)
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1:i think they stoped putting bean in the games due to the 9/11 attack and bombings.


That has to be the most 'out there' Sonic theory I have ever heard, ever.

 
(@crazy-cham-lea_1722585730)
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1:i think they stoped putting bean in the games due to the 9/11 attack and bombings.


... and then Sonic X introduces Bokkun?

 
(@kaulimus)
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I'm a Mario Kart: Double Dash player. I put Wario in the back seat and blow the living sh*t out of anyone foolish enough to wander within blast radius. Not too politically correct.

I think Bean and Bark were forgotton simply because that's what Sonic Team do. What ever happened to Nack/Fang the Weasel/Sniper? What about Omega from Sonic Heroes? Mighty? Until recently, the Chaotix? You think we'll ever see Wave or Jet or Storm ever, ever again? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Sonic team doesn't fill the character void in new games with returning guests. They make new characters to suit their needs.

Sad, but true.
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I think SEGA's true resion is that they just did not like the characters. Nack and Rouge are pretty much the same, so perhaps they did consider Nack, but they just found it more resionable and more profitable (hence: boobage and female market) to use Rouge.

I mean, they brought back the friggen Chaotix, so SURELY they looked at the other characters. Maybe we'll have surprise visits in StH 06, since Sonic Team really wants to "give back to the fans."

 
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What about Omega from Sonic Heroes?


Well, he was in Shadow and mentioned in Battle, so I wouldn't lump him along with characters like Nack and Bean just yet.

 
(@erika-the-ocelot)
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Well, I'm sure they haven't forgotten those characters yet, after all they were present in the recent sega poll thingy.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Maybe its more of a case of Sonic Team didn't actually design Bean and Bark. Weren't they AM2 creations? I thought Bean was a bit dull looking anyway. Bark however does look cool. Thats where the money is...

Maybe we will see Jet, Wave and Storm and maybe we will even see Mighty, Tikal and Chaos again since they did well in the recent Shadow owns all Sonic characters poll on the Sonic Channel.

Omega does have one playing card for him returning in the future - Metal Sonic. Since Omega was holding Metal Sonic at the end of Heroes, only Omega would know where he is.

As for Fang, Its a case of meh, Most of his character is used in Rouge (Obsessed with Jewels), Vector and Jet (Obsesse with Money). The only way for Fang to come back would be to be a full fledged bounty hunter/Eggman lacky.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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that had to be the most out there theroy i ever read.


I think it true that they stoped useing bean for that reason.were talking about sega:the people who use the sonic x voice actors for the games and forced us to listan to "FiNd Da CoMpUtOr rOoM111!!" makeing us wanna throw our gamecube out the window!

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...and thean sonic x introduce bokkun?


Bokkun is a ripoff of bean.plus,did 4kids make bokkun?:?

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the chaotix? mighty?


I keep reading rumors about mighty creator taking the rights to use him in any games.let's hope THERE NOT true.

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nack and rouge are pretty much the same,so PERHAPS they did consiter it.but they just found it more RESIONable and more profit.(hence:boobage and female market) to use rouge.


Sounds like they need to put rouge in a(*cough*videogameplayboymagzine*cough*).true. but rouge is not my fav.female character. (I bet bean would blow her up and steal her shinies)www.deviantart.com/deviation/29960460/ or fang IS rouge(inplants and sex change any one?) your pick.

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I mean they bought back the friggrn chaotix,so surely they looked at the other characters.


I agree.plus,chaotix are older thean sonic the fighters right? why not bring bark&bean back?

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After all they were present in the resent sega poll thingy.


On sega offical website? please can you post a link?

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weren't they am2 creations?


That did'et stop them to put sonic the fighters on gems. edit:used pun.and removed smileys

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Well it was on sonic.sega.jp and it was a character based poll were you were asked who is your fave character?, What character most suited sports?, Who do you want to see more of? Which character do you most enjoy playing as? and there were a few more questions.

The poll is down now and the results were in. But from what I remember you could pick:
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, Shadow, Amy, Rouge, Cream, Chao, Blaze, Jet, Wave, Storm, Emerl, Metal Sonic, Gamma, Omega, Tikal, Chaos, Espio, Charmy, Vector, Fang, Bean, Bark, Mighty and Ray.

Unfortunently the only real surprises was Mighty, Tikal and Chaos appearing (no love for Fang and Bark). Shadow was just pumped with votes. It was rigged I believe. Either that or the GameFAQs guys got onto it and just voted for Shadow.

AM2 did the actual port of Sonic the Fighters on Sonic Gems Collection. (I believe) Bean and Bark appeared on Fighters Megamix and Bean appeared on Virtua Striker 2. Both AM2 games.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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think it true that they stoped useing bean for that reason.were talking about sega:the people who use the sonic x voice actors for the games and forced us to listan to "FiNd Da CoMpUtOr rOoM111!!" makeing us wanna throw our gamecube out the window! crazy:


XDXD Man, where do you find these people. XDXD I can't even say anything else, i'm sorry.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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the truth hurts us all,hyper sonic. long story short:sega need to stop acting stupid and return the lost people. they did it to chaotix,they can do angin. ps. im a survbot now.;)

 
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bukkun is a ripoff of bean.plus,did 4kids make bukkun?:?


Arg...we have ourselves a dubbie. That can't be good.

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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bukkun is a ripoff of bean.plus,did 4kids make bukkun?


4Kids has nothing to do with the creation of Sonic X (or its characters) other than translating it into English.

 
(@wringthesquirrel)
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Bokkun is nothing like Bean. If the rights to mighty are truely gone, then why does Archie still use him? I think Mighty is just a Sonic clone anyways, even more so than Shadow! Bean might make an interesting game play, But Bark is kinda pointless. Fang was just an anoyance. The only one I would like to see back is Bean.

 
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This thread needs a warning label.

"WARNING: PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO THE POSTS OF SONIC CANDY AND WRINGTHESQUIRREL MAY CAUSE IQ TO DROP"

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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XD!

 
(@gt-koopa)
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I can't believe a Mofoer dissed Fang the Sniper. He was in more games than any of them, including being a boss fight in Sonic Xtreme.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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4kid has nothing to do with the creations sonic x.


oh.so 4kids DID NOT create bokkun. so this mean bokkun IS bean!:jester

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if the rights of mighty are truely gone,thean why douse archie still use him ?


these are stupid rumors i keep reading 'round the next. the rumors NEVER SAID ANY THING about the comic's still useing mighty.that's why i think there are fake,due to the fact that sega check the comics.and if they don't like the plots/characters/whatever they turn it down,right?(im stupid wean it come to the comic's)

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mighty is just a clone of sonic anyway,more thean shadow!


because im a VERY bad typer(and im just lazy:p )this should help.www.deviantart.com/deviation/28821152/eat ya heart out.">

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''WARNING:PROLUGE EXPOSURE TO THE POSTS OF SONIC CANDY AND WRINGTHESQUIRREL MAY CAUSE IQ TO DROP!''


i keep saying im sorry.so atleast cut me some slack! my computer keep acting all jacked up whean i space! GOD!:"> ...everyone REALLY HATES my guts now:(

 
(@nelstone)
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oh.so 4kids DID NOT create bokkun. so this mean bokkun IS bean!


Even if this is a joke... I don't get it.

 
(@deckman92)
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oh.so 4kids DID NOT create bokkun. so this mean bokkun IS bean!


You missed the point by about 8 zedillion miles. 4kids translates Sonic X, which is made by an entirely different company. Bokkun was created for the show (not by 4kids) and has nothing to do with Bean.

You don't have to waste your time haphazardly retyping quotes, by the way. Just select the text, right-click it, and click on "Copy".

 
(@kaulimus)
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Warning labels generally are for those lacking the mental capacity to judge a product's worth to them for themselves.

This topic is a good one for straightening out specific traits of the various Sonic 'versions' for those of us who do not know. Being a SegaSonic buff myself, I haven't the slightest idea of the use of minor characters in the comics/TV shows, and thus find the topic to be informative.

-Jake

 
(@sonic-candy)
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i know that bean is not bokkun.it was a joke. that's why i put the":jester " at the end of the sentence. can a mod please lock this? this topic is just pointless and everyone keep geting off topic. chat rooms and me just don't get along.:( long live the forgotton ones

 
(@true-red_1722027886)
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if they don't like the plots/characters/whatever they turn it down,right?


Yes, though they mainly are concerned with Sonic and to some extent Eggman/Robotnik actually (even in comparison to the other Sega-created characters) within a story.

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this topic is just pointless and everyone keep geting off topic.


The topic isn't pointless, but it's about characters that aren't that popular or have much known about them to be the basis of an indepth discussion. BTW, you'll find that "going off-topic" happens a lot here IF you are strict about what is "on-topic."

BTW, no need to apologize all the time. Using caps to begin sentences helps. You can get away with lower-case better in an IM than you can on message board. Oh, and not everyone is going to get your jokes, especially without knowing you, so that shouldn't discourage you.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Thanks True Red:thumbsup . Im Also VERY SORRY For My Crappy Typeing and People Not Geting my Jokes. Im a Little Sentive Whean People Dont Under Stand Me.BEAN AND BARK WILL LIVE ONE DAY SOON! ANY ONE AGREE?!">

 
(@wringthesquirrel)
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keep saying im sorry.so atleast cut me some slack! my computer keep acting all jacked up whean i space! GOD! ...everyone REALLY HATES my guts now


So everybody hates my guts, but I don't care, cause I blissfully ignore them
Anyways, I view all the shows that are faithful to the games as canon like Sonic X, Adventures of Sonic, and the movie. They are just different styles, although AoStH is more baised off of the American storyline, while Sonic X is more Japanese. And Kaulimus, good point.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Ya know, Sega Also Need to Use The Debug/Glich People.Like Ashura,(The true Sonic twin"> .)www.geocities.com/southbeach/cove/4161/ashura.html Honey the cat,(fighter vipers/sonic the fighters outcast) that Blue and /or Red knuckles glinch.Sonic Sister(if she count),and lets not for get Triea Bowboskie and her dad pro.Bowboskie (spell check?). Also,i have have a very Intreresting theory of Dynamite dux and Bean being Connected:idea . Anyone want to hear it?(or see and read,in this case)

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Its true. Bean was a homage to Bin from Dynamite Dux.

 
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ps. i think this thread need to be re named to ''The offical thead of the fogotton ones''


Since you started this topic you needn't need to ask anyone for opinion/approval before renaming it, just edit your first post. I would caution you not to use the word "Official" in the title as mods are stricter with those topics. A final word of advice: While no one expects perfect grammar and spelling, it can be hard to understand posts if they're full of Random Capitals!, emoticon abuse, and what-have-you. You say typing's hard and I can appreciate that. Might I suggest typing in WordPerfect (or whatever program's on your comp), using spellcheck, then cutting and paste? Takes time I know but the end result is a cleaner post that folks are more likely to take seriously.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Sorry 'bout the random capitals.so you can use a typeing program.thanks for the tip. And i did not know i could change the topic name by editing my first post. sorry for the smilely abuse also.

 
(@wringthesquirrel)
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Why don't you just tell us your theory. i guess it could be possible Dynamite Ducks happened on Sonic's planet. And Bean is related to Bin.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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OK.Because im bored. But i need to find the proper web pages i found.thean i'll post it.(The arcade version is the only one that make sence.) But im not 100% sure that dynamite dux happened on sonic planet because sonic was not invented untill 3 years later after dynamite dux.I might edit this post and put the theory under here.(wish me luck on finding the pages.) edit1:www.theghz.com/museum/other.html Stroll down 'till you see 'dynamite dux'.Thats the arcade version(the best version of them all)images.webmagic.com/klov.com/images/10/1075571223.jpgBin,pin and lucy togeter.Go to google,go under language tools,and tranlate this page from spanish to english www.marcianitos.org/revisnombre/dynamite dux.htm.Very nice site.

 
(@questern)
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Yep, a topic like this was imminent. (Crap, can't remember how to spell that...)

Here's my little list of all "non-main characters" and my personal preference for their appearances.

Blaze - Blaze is one of my favorite new (new as in the last fourish years) characters. To me, it would be a shame for her to waste away into nothingness.

Jet, Wave, Storm - These three will probably appear in Sonic Wild Fire (judging the fact that the game is a twist on Arabian Nights from what I here and that Babylon is theoritically in that general area). I'd say the heck with them, but I'm not making the game now am I?

Emerl - Except for his many duplicates, he shouldn't come back.

Metal Sonic - So long as his next appearance is much better than Heroes, I wouldn't mind at all. (That new look he was sporting sure wasn't bad either.)

Gamma - Gamma was destroyed at the end of his adventure in SA/SA:D X. Having him comeback (not including duplicates) would be slightly illogical.

Omega - Hasn't he "fulfilled his purpose" yet? (Or is this Shadow...?) Ah well, same as Metal Sonic; if he does show up, it better be for a good reason.

Tikal - Why should she come back? Chaos isn't (or rather shouldn't) go all dark again, and that was her primary purpose.

Chaos - I didn't like it when they introduced him in Battle because "he comes when there's trouble". (Or something along those lines. Whatever it was, it sounded stupid to me, because if so, then his alarm clocks way past broken.) Same thing as Tikal; Chaos has served his purpose.

Espio - Espio can come back, but no more corny ninja lines.

Charmy - Charmy can come back with less corny lines and once he figures out weither or not he's gay.

Vector - No gum, no corny lines.... Am I forgetting anything?

And finally, the important ones.

Fang - He should definitely come back. (Rouge VS Fang) He's a better villian that Eggman really. (Of course I haven't played Sonic360/PS3 yet...)

Bean - Other than forgetfulness, just not having the right plan/plot, or spitefullness, there is really no reason for Bean not to come back.

Bark - Bark should definitely come back and give Knuckles some competition. ^_^

Ray, Mighty - I'm sad to say that I've never played SonicArcade, so I've never actually played as Ray or Mighty. I would love for Sonic Team to show them again.

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4Kids has nothing to do with the creation of Sonic X (or its characters) other than translating* it into English.


*Didn't you mean "poorly translating" there?

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Que,you make some nice explamations here.however,there is one thing i disagree with you-charmy is only 6 years old,i highly dout charmy even knows the word 'gay',let alone is gay. On the good side,yes i think espy should return with no more crappy lines and more ninja stuff,like nunchucks,bo staff,sais,ect.Vector bubble gum thing was a little unnessery so that would have to go. fang and rouge should team up only to backstab each other or team up. anyway works.I think bean have a chance of appering(im STILL puzzled on how amy,cream,sonic,knuckles could blow up things and people with there bombs.tails is smart enough not to give them or any one bombs. plus,his bombs are not that strong like bean,imo)Bark can give knux some comptition.in knux sh profile they clam hes a martial artist,so bark should come back as artic warrior or something:idea . Very few people played segasonic arcade,so that can and can not be a problem.ray didet even have his flaps from what i read on the net.

 
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Espio - Espio can come back, but no more corny ninja lines.

Charmy - Charmy can come back with less corny lines and once he figures out weither or not he's gay.

Vector - No gum, no corny lines.... Am I forgetting anything?


While, Sega could rid of any of the really bad dialogue that is uttered by the Chaotix, I doubt that they would turn them into a completely serious group. Personally, I think they are going with the opposite direction with the them if their portrayals in Sonic Heroes, Sonic X, and Espio's profile is any indication.

 
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Chaotix are comic relief. Now they just need decent script writers.

I could see Tikal coming back in a Knuckles game where they find out why/how Knuckles is the last echidna. I liked Tikal.

Wait...Charmy is gay? Sonic Team once again pushing the boundaries after the unresolved sexual tension between Knuckles and Rouge. They push its further. God bless them. Now if only it was in a good game.

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Que called charmy 'gay' in his post.(m not trying to start nothing here or sound rude).And i respounded that charmy is not gay. And i if here one person call tails&charmy gay because they sound like a girl i'll snap. They are not teenagers,there 6-8 years old for god sake! Give me one piece of edvance that proves charmy and tails are gay.Charmy is a bee and bees like flowers, so don't even try that one. And a game that shows knux past would be very nice(ps. Hey john,is your avater from the up comeing rayman game? rayman rox!) EDIT:p roper commet added due to misunder standing with que.sorry que!

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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I was being sarcastic about Charmy. Sonic Team won't have a gay character...yet.

Yeah the avatar is from Rayman Raving Rabbits. I got both of the Bunnie's tips videos. Theres something that makes me smile about a rabbit in a french maids outfit. >_> That sounds bad.

 
(@wringthesquirrel)
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I thought Charmy and Tails sounded like a regular cartoon Boy Fox/bee would sound. I think they are just jealous of charmy's good looks (look at how cream looked at him during their fight in heroes). I think they should make Charmy 16 instead of 6. But then I would have to get ride of the Charmy Cream thing.

 
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Charmy is actually a girl.

Don't believe me? Proof: He has a stinger :D

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Oh,johnny boy,you and your weird sense of humor:jester . where did you get the bunny tip videos? post link please and likeing bunnys is french maid outfits is bad.Cream likeing charmy,thats one couple i dont support.(Please dont post your fav. because a coupal flame war will start)Batty,in real life,chameleons have three horns,foxes dont have two tails,echidna dont have knuckles or dreads,crocs dont chew bubble gum and mad scientist sure the heck dont have egged shaped bodys. It's a game.thats what make it more interesting;) .Plus,i belive it depends on what race of bee that charmy is.(ps.Any one liked the'dynamite dux' screen shots i posted? I'll post my theory soon.)

 
(@questern)
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Sonic Candy, CHILL OUT. I use sarcasm regularly. The Charmy comment was half sarcasm. Although I do have to agree with Wonderbat...

 
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Raving Rabbits stuffs

I suggest downloading them. They are huge files.

Ooooo they got some new ones up!

Oh wow, bees with stingers are female.
Bee Sting
*The more you know picture*

 
(@miss-puar)
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Since female bees have stingers, does that mean Charmy dresses in drag?

 
(@sonic-candy)
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Sorry que!i though i put there:) . I'll edit my post. no hard felings?:( (you could of put a smiley there about charmy,but it's my fault.) Thanks for the links,john.Plus,why whould sega make a helpless bee?Hegehogs don't turn super in real life so a boy bee can have a stinger in a videogame,IMO.(no one liked my screen shots?)

 
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