I honestly dont see what there is left to discuss. All of those unused Sonic characters are certainly not forgotten by the Sonic community at large, or even by Sega who even has a profile of Nack on their site and included all of those characters in some form in Sonic Gems Collection.
Theyre not forgotten, simply unused. Why? Because Sega sees no point in using them when theyd much prefer to create new characters aimed at a particular demographic.
Besides, why is anyone even bothering to try and find sense in Segas madness? They lost the plot years ago.
And I find it doubtful that Sega is even reading Sonic fandom message boards, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. If they had, Shadow would have gone bye and bye and most of the current issues in the Sonic games i.e. camera and gamplay would have already been solved.
Which, of course, they haven't.
Still, us fans who fondly remember the old characters can still talk about them, and post any news related to them- like that Bean tidbit I just posted.
...but that isn't new at all. And the likelihood of finding any new information about unused characters is going to be near impossible. o.o
As Han Solo says in Empire Strikes Back, NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS!
...besides... that Bean bit was news to ME. I'd never heard it.
I knew about Bean appering in that soccer game years ago. Which is why I think he left Sega to become a pro scoccer player.
Ok maybe not, but heres something to think about:
If Bin is Bean dad, thean Bin should live on Earth like Bean and the others right? In Dynamite Dux, Lucy (The girl Bin and Pin had to save) is human, the places Bin and Pin go are Real life places (Chicago, Texas, Japan ect.) None of this was never in the Sonic games till SA1.
So is Bin Bean's REAL dad or simpley have that title because Bean alternate costume in Fighter megamix is Blue, which is the color of Bin? And the fact that it's pointless, we do need to something to talk about - this is the Forgotton Ones thread.
(Eggman was the first human, Im not dumb. And BTW, SA2 looked like it was in sanfisco because in 'Radical high way' Shadow was clearly griding on the brige at the start.)
Is it EVER specifically stated that Bin is Bean's dad? No? Because it's nothing more then a single nod and relation to the Dynamite Dux game.
Even if it was ever specifically stated that Bin IS Bean's dad... so what?
Do you loathe this topic's continued existence or something?
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Do you loathe this topic's continued existence or something?
I'll answer for Pach. No. Its just that for a while now it has been in a rut of these Fan-fic esque theories behind Bean the Duck.
Its original purpose has been and gone and will surely rise again. It was to go "Oh wow Fang, he was cool." or "Bark was badarse." or "Mighty was like...dull."
I'm pretty sure it wasn't to make up backstories for characters in a series where there are only two characters with any sort of a backstory beyond "They met *insert character here* and *allied or have a friendly rivalry* with them. (Shadsie and Knuxie)
Bean was only inspired by Bin from Dynamite Dux. The only reason he was even made it in was the lack of a green character who wasn't Vector. AM2 had mystic powers and could see into the future and saw what would happen to Vector in Shadow The Hedgehog. There is no evidence that Sonic's World and Dynamite Dux's World are infact the same world.
I'm all for discussion on Pre-Adventure characters but not to the point when we are making up a backstory for them. That is for Carnival Island. All we have on any character's backstory is their bio included in the game the debuted in.
Oh, Heh heh. I wasn't endorsing the speculation or anything, it's just, since I resurrected this topic, all he's said is that there's no more use for it.
If the speculation doesn't belong here, then, okie-dokie! There's still plenty to talk about.
Maybe we could compile everything we KNOW about them oficially. It could be fun!
...what's the point in doing so on a forum when all the existing information can be found on websites already, such as SonicHQ itself or the Sonic Stadium etc?
Well, to see if there's anyhting else like that "Bean in Virtua Striker 2" thing we don't know yet. It wasn't on Sonic HQ last I checked.
It would also give us a chance to actually DISCUSS each tidbit we find, as well as the characters themselves.
Rarely do you find everything all in one place. (shrugs)
Last time I checked there for Sonic stuff, someone had replaced most of the words in Sonic's profile with "cake", i.e. "The servers are the seven cakes...."
EDIT: A bit of Mighty and Ray conjecture: He COULD'VE worked as a Fly formation character in Sonic Heroes. He could've flapped his arms and legs in unison to catch air with his flaps. It wouldn't work in real life, but neither would Tails' proppelor trick.
But HOW would his teammates hang onto him if his legs are busy? Well, SegaSonc the Arcade shows that his tail IS prehensile- once again, unlike a real flyinh squirrel.
Mighty, despite his strength, would've ended up being a speed character. Why? Well, he's faster than anyone else but Sonic, Shadow, and Metal Sonic, and the Power Formation is supposed to play a little slower than Speed formation. Since Sonic and Shadow are on separate teams, and Metal Sonic is the main baddie, well, there's nobody faster left. Maybe as his Solo Attack, he could do some punching or something.
... I presume speculation about HOW a character could've fit into a game is still on-topic?
If they were to introduce new team formations for a Heroes 2 or whatever, I think that
- Blaze (Speed)/Mighty (Strength)/Ray (Flight)
- Fang (Speed)/Bark (Strength)/Bean (Flight)
- Babylon thieves
are pretty much their only choices, unless they create new characters or start using really obscure and impartical ones such as Witchcart or Speedy or Ilumina.
But THAT would lead to a team where their Power character is actually FASTER than their Speed character... which could lead to some interesting mechanics, I suppose...
That, and Mighty already comes pre-packaged with a Triangle Jump-esque technique- the Wall Kick, anyone?
Well obviously the character would be retooled somewhat, and whatever characteristics Mighty may have had in Chaotix are effectively irrelevant now - for example, I imagine that most people wouldn't have classed Vector as a very "strong" character pre-Heroes, and Sega certainly bolstered his strength to make him fit the role. Considering Mighty was just a last-minute character swap with Sonic, I don't think Sega would have any issues with it; it's not like they haven't retconned more important things before.
Mighty is more remembered for his strength anyway, his characteristics and abilities were never really demonstrated in-game, and Fleetway and Archie - the only places where Mighty has had any real exposure - both took his name quite literally.
I'd be inclined to disagree with you. In his two game appearances, Mighty's demonstrated more of his speed than his strength.
Well, as far as Mighty being power, he could be fast as well. I mean, to me, Knuckles was the third fastest character in SA2, next to Sonic and Shadow, of course, even though he's a power character.
Rouge was just as fast as Knuckles in SA2.
Actually, I thought she was a little bit slower.
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Well obviously the character would be retooled somewhat, and whatever characteristics Mighty may have had in Chaotix are effectively irrelevant now - for example, I imagine that most people wouldn't have classed Vector as a very "strong" character pre-Heroes, and Sega certainly bolstered his strength to make him fit the role. Considering Mighty was just a last-minute character swap with Sonic, I don't think Sega would have any issues with it; it's not like they haven't retconned more important things before.
Mighty is more remembered for his strength anyway, his characteristics and abilities were never really demonstrated in-game, and Fleetway and Archie - the only places where Mighty has had any real exposure - both took his name quite literally.
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I'd be inclined to disagree with you. In his two game appearances, Mighty's demonstrated more of his speed than his strength.
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Well, as far as Mighty being power, he could be fast as well. I mean, to me, Knuckles was the third fastest character in SA2, next to Sonic and Shadow, of course, even though he's a power character.
I don't know about that TTG. For Might, Rae (as Ray is clearly female in that pic), and Nack to be in the same team. Mighty and Ray/Rae would have to become evil or Nack would have to become good, and I personally don't see Mighty fans being too happy about him becoming evil or Nack fans about him becoming good.
Mighty and Ray have never been explicitly labelled as good guys, though. You could make an argument for Mighty because of his role in Chaotix, but it'd be easy to repute. Being an enemy of Robotnik doesn't necessarily make them good guys.
That being said I do believe that they are, but yeah =p. Devil's Advocate and all.
sonic332 - you completely missed my point. It doesn't matter whatever his characteristics in Chaotix were. In SegaSonic Arcade all the characters were basically the same model and had the same speed regardless. Mighty may have been relatively fast in Chaotix, sure, but so was Vector. As I mentioned before, the vast majority of people who have any knowledge of Mighty are going to know him from the comics, where his strength is a big part of his character - not many people played Chaotix, and even less played Arcade. If Sega ever brings him back, he'll be a power character.
Hah. As if Sega cares what the people who know him from the comic wants. Xp
Im back from the dead to eat your brains for bumping this topic!!!
Im at a school computer due to money problems so don't expect a full answer soon, I be on MY computer friday..hopefully. Im gonna make this short and sweet.
Mighty and Ray are belived to be good guys, In sega sonic, Ray and Mighty, along with Sonic, were captured in eggman big castle. (Some one posted a video of the game in japense on You Tube.)
Sega Sonic was even less know then chaotix, so most people saw him in the comic as a power type and so they think Might was a power type and some still do.
As for Ray being a bad guy, look at the opening of Mighty, Sonic, and him running. Ray is the big baby err.. the most frightened. How many scared Bad guys do you see? BESIDES Eggman? To me, Sega wise, none. I always saw him and Mighty in a Sonic and Tails bound. AWWWW!
And im pretty sure his profile here say one of his wecknesses is speed. Im prolly wroung.
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