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(@beardie99)
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I think he'll appear again probably in Sonic Riders.

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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Considering we already know who the remaining three characters are... doubt it.

 
(@hiro0015)
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When was Metal Sonic sick!?!I wish I would have gotten him a get WELL soon card...

 
(@pc-the-hedgehog_1722585862)
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You can tell by all the games he's been in over the years in one way or another that Sonic Team loves him. There's no doubt in my mind that he'll return in the future.

 
(@sonicknight)
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When was Metal Sonic sick!?!I wish I would have gotten him a get WELL soon card...
:lol that's pretty funny.

metal sonic is the only thing fast enough to catch up with sonic. it's a classic, everyone loves the idea. he's so cool. and really shows eggman's skill in robotics.
maybe metal will be in the PS3 sonic game.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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metal sonic is the only thing fast enough to catch up with sonic

Except for Shadow and every single Game Gear intro where he's being outrun, and the racing games where Sonic's speed stat is usually 2-4th...

Heck, being faster than Sonic isn't even an accomplishment in the series anymore, not being able to catch up with him is just a momenteus failure.

*EDIT* To stop creating confusion, I have removed my mis-understanding section from this post.

 
(@sonicknight)
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Metal Sonic has never created robots
i meant because eggman made metal it shows eggman's skill, and kinda proves he has a 300 I.Q

i doubt they'll use shadow anymore and even if they do he won't be a bad guy. so shadow's running days with sonic are over. (it's metal's place anyway).

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Oh, my bad ^^;

It does indeed show how amazing Eggy is.

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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What do you mean by Metal's intelligence? I thought Metal was at least as smart as Robotnik, since it can copy DNA and use it to it's own advantage.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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That particular part of the reply was a mis-understanding and should be ignored, though I do insist that there's no evidence of Metal having supreme intellect to match Eggman's, just using the tools he was built with and staging a rebellion is not a 300IQ deal.

 
(@sandygunfox)
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But then again, when does Eggman show 300IQ when not building robots with such obvious weak points.

A TRUE genius is Tails.

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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Now that is what I am talking about. Tails is better. Though in SA1 he did get is "tail" whipped when the Egg Cannon downed the Tornado 2.

 
(@jeffery-mewtamer)
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A TRUE genius is Tails.


and that is why Tails as an IQ of 400(See this attack data in Sonic Battle).

P.S. Metal should return, and break his brothers(Mecha Sonic, M. Knux, and Tails Doll) out of whatever cell Eggman has them stored in and upgrade them. And include in the upgrades giving the others copies of the lifedata of their furry counterparts(reassigning Mecha to Shadow at the same time).

 
(@jet-k)
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Considering that Metal has been in Sonic Heroes and made a cameo in SA1 and SA2 I wouldn't be suprised if he shows up in another game at some point.

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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I played SA1 and it is in a stasis tube with Mecha, but I never played SA2. Where is it located at (so when I do play the game, I can find it.)

 
(@jet-k)
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Well on Gamecube, he's an extra character for two player mode. I haven't seen him in the actual storyline though.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Also the reward for getting all emblems in the Gamecube version of SA1. He's a 2 player character in the Dreamcast version of SA2, but you need all A Ranks with Sonic to unlock him.

You DO get his mugshot on the VMU though, which is pretty nice.

 
(@sonicknight)
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and that is why Tails has an IQ of 400(See this attack data in Sonic Battle).
nobody reached a 300 I.Q in the real world. youd have to use all your brain power to be that smart, I guess. but 400? tails must be psychic.
really though, an I.Q is only measured by someones academic knowledge. I dont believe in it. You have to have skill as well and Tails has that. so even if eggy has the I.Q tails still can be smarter because he has skill.

P.S: craig your drawing reminds me of an anime i used to watch called "irresponsible captain Taylor" :) I like your pic, he looks a lot like the captain.

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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I agree. IQ means nothing. But it is fun being an Egghead (even though I have Dyslexia, I have an IQ of 120. :p ), unofficially though (through online tests.)

 
(@dirk-amoeba)
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really though, an I.Q is only measured by someones academic knowledge.


No. IQ is measured by a standardized test of cognitive abilities. Any good IQ test would have almost nothing to do with academic knowledge.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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*Nodnod* It measures how fast your brain is able to work, how much common sense and logic you have and how able you are to retain information over a short period. If you can do all of that well, then learning new things is a piece of cake because it sticks, you understand it easily and it's fast.

People with lower IQs take more time to learn things and are a wee bit slower. With IQ ratings as high as Eggman and Tails (Ie: Unrealistically high) they have a photographic memory and near infinite storage capcity for the things they learn. But they still have to learn them.

 
(@neothechosenfan)
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:cmon I want Metal Sonic to return? Prehaps a brand new story/game to reintroduce him, where we can learn more about him and come to understand the character more. :fist

 
(@very-crazy-penguin_1722585704)
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What more is there to understand? He's an evil robot Sonic obsessed with defeating the real Sonic, and nowadays he wants robots to rule the world.

 
(@sonicknight)
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It measures how fast your brain is able to work, how much common sense and logic you have and how able you are to retain information over a short period.


In other words it only tests how well you can take a test.
It tells you your good in one field and totally drop all the others. Skills and abilities are important yet this test says no, carpenters and painters are dumb.

Knowledge is not only knowing all the names of animals and being able to calculate. To know how to make use of the elements around you is true genius.
Also, dont forget most our elders are illiterate and didnt go to school. Yet they are far more wise than we are and more knowledgeable in the ways of the world.

Theres a saying that goes: dont ask a doctor, ask an expert.

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Any good IQ test would have almost nothing to do with academic knowledge.


:lol then why do you think schools give those tests?

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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To. Judge. How. Fast. You. Can. Learn.

It has nothing to do with WHAT you learn. Not about how much trivia you know or how much about a subject you know. Just how fast and able your brain understands simple logic, how well your memory reacts. Seriously, you don't need to KNOW anything prior to taking a test like this except what colour is what and how to read. Occasionally there are maths problems put into them, but again, a decent IQ test doesn't test knowledge, it tests your brain. Thusly, it doesn't matter what you know, at all. The POINT is that anyone in the world can answer these questions, the IQ test is just how well you do with them.

It's not like questions are "What is the capital of France"

an IQ test question would be something along the lines of "If Some TJ's will become SP's and all SP's become BN's is it reasonable to assume all BN's were once TJ's?" or "memorise this picture" "How many windows did you see? What colour was the car" or "Remember these words which are matched together, now tell us which word was matched with which"

You know, tests on logic and memory. Not knowledge.

 
(@sonicknight)
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memory and logic won't help in everything that's only part useful. you also need book smart and street smart to get by. let's say you get lost in the desert don't you need knowledge to know where to get water, and science to know the directions from the starts, and skill to build a snowboard, and street smart to know how to beat the wolves.
memory and logic they wont save your life. really the smartest person has to be the one that knows how to survive and handle tough times.

you don't need an I.Q for that kinda thing: logic "follow your heart" and for memory "do your best"
that's all there is to it, anyone can do that!
put have skill and street or book smart that's something very cool and mega hard not everyone can do that :D

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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The irony is so thick I'm afraid I'll hurt myself if I continue. Anyone want to take over?

 
(@rico-underwood)
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You need to use examples Craig. Like his. A carpenter would be an example of a high IQ as they need to be able to remember measurements flawlessly and need high cognitive abilities so they are able to place segments of their project together in their mind with precise measurements before they actually start doing it. I.E. they need to be able to complete a project in their mind much like a chess player can play out an entire game in his mind. They are NOT dumb anymore than a brick mason is.

An example of a low IQ would be sonicknight who, despite it being pounded into his or her head over and over, cannot seem to remember what people are telling him/her what I.Q. measures and why.

Now get your butts BACK to topic or I'm going to start slapping people.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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Question: Will Metal Sonic Return?
Answer: Yes.

In Virtua Fighter Announcer voice: GAME OVER.

Okay, Whenever (the real none of those Silver, Mecha, Mechanical FAKERS) Metal Sonic shows up in the story there seems to be gimmick in the game.

Sonic CD: Time Travelling
Knuckles Chaotix: Combi Ring
Sonic Heroes: The whole team thing...

Shadow would have easily been added to that list (with the Gunplay and vehicles) but alas no Metal Sonic.

So maybe when the next Sonic game comes up with a slight slant on the gameplay Metal Sonic will return. And on that day may we all be saved by a force equal to that of Metal Sonic's wrath. Something involving Chaos Emeralds then.

 
(@tornadot)
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By that argument then he should have shown up in Sonic Rush with that gimmicky Boost Meter...at least it actually proved to be useful this time around...(Why does it seem the new Sonic games don't have those insanely fast sections that some of the genesis games had? Or was it the illusion of Sonic moving too fast for the screen that has warped my vision?)

 
(@deletedprofile-u_1722586485)
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Maybe because when you play it on a smaller screen it makes you feel like you're going slower.

Anyway, Metal Sonic could be in Sonic Riders as an Boss or Sub boss. And if there are no bosses in SRiders then the game would probably get real old, real fast.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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Hmmm...he better return. After Heroes he needs some form of redemption.

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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Maybe IT (I don't think a robot should have a sex, after all, robots can't reproduce sexually, so why call it a him?) should star in it's own game, like the main charicter going after Robotnick and trying to take over the Egg Empire, then the world.

 
(@spiner-storm)
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(I don't think a robot should have a sex, after all, robots can't reproduce sexually, so why call it a him?)


O RLY???


~Look at the thrusting of his mechanical pelvis!~

Back On Topic:
Metal Sonic should forever remain as a villain, and despite what Sonic Team or any other people may do to destroy him (ala Sonic Heroes), we all know that we each hold a special place in all of our hearts for this mechanical faker. =D

As long as Sonic the Hedgehog games will be made, Metal Sonic will not die. =)

 
(@Anonymous)
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(I don't think a robot should have a sex, after all, robots can't reproduce sexually, so why call it a him?)


Because he is modeled after a Male being. Although Sonic, despite being completely nude, doesn't exactly look like he has the tools of the trade >___>

 
(@shadow-the-android)
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That is famous in the Hedgehog series, men are nude, women are clothed, but with the exception of Rouge the Bat, no one seems to have the tools of the trade. :D

 
(@evil-lamont-raccoon)
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No! We have too many sonic clones anyway.. he's dead and beated. IMO anyway.

 
(@da-muthalovin-jman)
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with the exception of Rouge the Bat, no one seems to have the tools of the trade.

None of the other female characters has hit puberty yet.

 
(@deletedprofile-u_1722586485)
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@There are too many Sonic clones@

Lately, in SEGA there has been 1 or 2 'clones' that have appeared more than twice; Metal Sonic and (lots of people would argue), Shadow.

@He's dead@

Robots don't die, they "Shut down".

@...and beaten@

Eggman has been beaten loads of times, but he keeps on trying.

 
(@ultra-devil-chao_1722585797)
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In Sonic Riders, I'll bet. And I also bet that Nack/Fang won't. Why SEGA, why?!

 
(@Anonymous)
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WE. ALREADY. KNOW. THE. CHARACTERS. IN. RIDERS.

 
(@sonic-fan-53)
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i believe that metal would have been a good character to play as, rather than those E series robots but o well but i did enjoy the super sonic in the first riders game.

but back on topic, son far metal has only appeared in two games since heroes. sonic rivals put metal back in the ring as eggman/ nega's henchmen to and in 2 metal help's shadow take down and eggman bring down nega, suggesting eggman reprogrammed him.

 
(@crimson-darkwolfe)
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o.0 Did you REALLY just bump a topic from 3 years ago?

 
(@sonicv2)
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Are you REALLY surprised? He already bumped a 4 year old topic.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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This would be a bad case of bumping, as Metal Sonic HAS returned since the topic's creation.

Twice.

I think it would be best to lock this thread, as it's redundant. Rivals plot discussion can be it's own thread, if need be.

 
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