wait why do people refer to lunux as communist i dont understand, i didn't even know what linux was until like last year...
It's not just that. It's the fact that it's a total pain to copy text.
Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V didn't work either! }:O
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Why do people refer to Linux as communistic.
To quote Wikipedia:
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Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production.
In the realm of Computer software, the source code is the means of production. With open-source software, you have source code that is practically in a state of common ownership.
I think it's Apple-C and Apple-V.
Also, living in America doesn't make you a good, loyal, upstanding American. You use Linux. C'mon now.
(By the way, I'm kidding about the whole true-Americans-use-Microsoft thing. And this post.)
oh @ jeff
and i know what communism is i support it
Illegal immigrants can get Linux for computers without spending huge amounts of money! It is the devil's OS, uprooting our very ideals!
*has a Ubuntu Live CD he hasn't bothered to try just yet*
*isn't dissatisfied enough with XP to risk trying a new OS*
When Windows starts physically raping my ass I will consider a 3rd party OS
rule 34 on Windows, Mac and Linux
not the OS-tan either, the actual OS.
Don't be too sure that wont happen, HPA. I guarantee there's some lab out there trying to make a device to plug into the USB slot which will amplify the internet's greatest business.
All it takes is SKYNET or Die Hard 4.0 hackers and that thing'll come alive and attack you in a way which'll have you never sit down infront of a computer again.
Like hacking your house's heater and blowing it all up in flames with just their computers! =D
I love how Hollywood has no concept of what a computer can and cannot do.
"Zoom in on that bit" *Zooms in and pixelly mess fills the screen* "Sharpen it" *Magically the image becomes perfectly clear*
SCIENCE DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!
I wish it would. 
I tried Ubuntu recently on my laptop. I had three requirements of it. It needed to be able to do the things I used the laptop for when I had Windows on it: word processing, DVDs and wireless internet.
It failed two out of three, so I switched back to XP.
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I tried Ubuntu recently on my laptop. I had three requirements of it. It needed to be able to do the things I used the laptop for when I had Windows on it: word processing, DVDs and wireless internet.
It failed two out of three, so I switched back to XP.
Yes, Wireless support is lacking though blame falls more on the hardware makers than the Ubuntu developers(as does 90% of other hardware problems).
Since OpenOffice is installed by default, I doubt you had problems with Word Processing.
If your DVD problem was with playback, try installing libdvdread3 either via Synaptic or the following command:
sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
Note: Libdvdread3 is the current version in 7.10. Older versions of Ubuntu may have an older version of libdvdread available.
Think your tech help's a bit late, Jeff. He said he tried it, didn't work out for him so he switched back. I doubt he'll switch OS systems to see if it's possible to get DVD playback and still lose his wireless when he has all 3 things he needs already.
AUGH EVERYONE SHUT THE HELL UP
THIS IS THE SPA
SPA DAMMIT
SPAM IT NOW
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You see, I have a hard time blaming hardware developers for the wireless not working considering it worked fine with Windows and bricked up the second Ubuntu touched it. My friend, who's on a Loco team, said my best bet was to buy a new wirelesss card. The whole reason I got up the courage to try Ubuntu in the first place was that it was free.
As for the DVD playback, I did a million different things to try and get it to work (with Ubuntu trying to make me feel bad about not supporting an open source platform the whole way), and the farthest I got was that it would play just the intros, stop when it got to the DVD menus, then start over from the beggining.
Like I said, I wasn't going to go out of my way when it all worked already on my previous OS. It had it's chance, and it blew it.
Saffronic: I bet you taste like cranberry juice (see topic on DNA helicase for further instructions)
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I have a hard time blaming hardware developers for the wireless not working considering it worked fine with Windows and bricked up the second Ubuntu touched it.
A major problem Ubuntu and Linux in general faces when it comes to hardware support is that if the hardware maker does not offer support, it is difficult for the Linux Developers to pick-up the slack.
Most hardware requires a device driver to communicate with the computer properly. One of three things has to happen for a hardware device to have a Linux compatible driver available. Either:
1. The hardware maker makes official drivers.
2. The hardware maker releases the full specs of the device allowing someone to write a 3rd party driver.
3. Someone has to reverse-engineer the device.
Most hardware makers think that their is not sufficient market demand to do 1, most refuse to do 2 on the principal of "it would compromise their intellectual property", and 3 simply takes too much time to be doable for all devices.
Oh well, the important thing is that you at least gave it a chance. The only thing I ever have against a Windows user are those who have not tried or who refuse to try the alternatives.
To Saffronic: Just because this is the spam forum does not mean we cannot have an semi-serious discussion.
lolz... Why would the manufactures waste resource money creating drives for a OS that the vast majority of their customers don't use?
also lol @ you getting mad at folks who don't try alternatives... Why should we waste our time on something that may or may not work? Especially if we are already satisfied with what we've got?
one other point. You do realize that most of us here are more computer literate than about 99% of the population, right? These computer 'illiterate' people have a hard time changing RAM... Imagine trying to get them to change an OS. At least these big OS's, Microsoft and Mac, have over the phone tech support... Unless I've missed something, Linux doesn't offer that, right? If they were to try to switch and messed up, how would they trouble shoot? The internet?
I'm not part of the majority? ;___; I don't even know how to open the cover on a PC, let alone change the insides.
Is this changing of RAM easy? Sounds like rocket science to me.
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I know what all the dials and buttons on a camera are for, don't you dare judge me!
lolz, changing ram is like changing a tire... hell, even throwing in a new video card is easy...
How the hell do you change a tire?
I think what Jeff was saying, Hiro, if poorly worded, is that he doesn't like it when Windows users criticize Linux or other alternatives without having at least tried them. I think he was nodding to Srol trying it and making a thus-informed choice more than he was prreaching at us for not doing so.
for the record, I use Macs in one of my classes at school and I've played with Linux a bit, but I have by far mroe expereince with Windows OSes.
Either way, Windows does everything I want a computer to do and it does it relatively well, I'm not going to risk my computer or waste my time playing with the OS just because it's not perfect.
Also, while this is moer because I haven't done the necessary research mroe than anything else, I find the sheer number of different Linuxes to be a bit of a turnoff. I mean, yeah, there's, for example, Vista Basic, Vista Business, Vista Ultiamte, what have you, but there's only a handful and they're all the same program, just dressed differently. But there's a massive list of Linux distros and no two are the same. I'm not computer savvy enough to care about the very specific detail. I know my way around a computer, yeah, but why get so complicated and choicey when Windows (XP currently, though I may end up with a Vista computer early next year) is just Windows? I'm not saying it's too hard, I'm just saying it's more complicated than I have to go to get a working computer.
Also, I may be able to talk Dad into letting me have his old computer (he'll be getting this one if/when I get a new one) and if so, I'll probably try Linux again and put it on there. If not, I do have an old WinME dinosaur that we're not intending to sell because I couldn't get $10 for it...
what is this
this is spam forum
Saff, deliver us from this evil!
Personally, one of the issues I've had with linux over the years was the condescension of Linux users. Ubuntu was the first version that seemed to be actually trying to reach out to non-linux users in a way that didn't scream "UR OS SUX LOL" which is why I gave it a shot.
Let the record show that I liked the interface, it was just too much technical troubleshooting for me, given the amount of money I had to spend on the upgrade was $0. If I ever buy a computer from scratch and have the option of a Ubuntu computer where all the included hardware and software is guarenteed to work, I would definately strongly consider it.
I messed with an Ubuntu live CD some time back. It was alright, I suppose - but Linux will never quite as functional right off the bat as commercial OSes - whether it's Linux's fault or not.
Let's mix discussion with spam.
UBUNTU! UBUNTU! THEY INSTALL IT IN DE CONGO! UBUNTU! UBUNTU! THEY INSTALL IT IN DE CONGO!
De penguin take the source code and mix it wit de stringso?
Why are you glowing tie-dye now anyways?
He's taking Hyper lessons!
Oh, and what Srol said on condescension - People telling me what a bad person I am for using Windows, wanting an SUV, owning a PS3, etc, do more harm than good for their cause as far as I'm concerned. =D
They say you're a republican for those things.
But bad person and republican mean the same thing 
*hide*
Yeah, but see, I don't automatically preach to Democrats for not being patriotic enough, those liberal commie bastards.
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UBUNTU! UBUNTU! THEY INSTALL IT IN DE CONGO! UBUNTU! UBUNTU! THEY INSTALL IT IN DE CONGO!
WAY DOWN DEEP IN DA MIDDLE OF DE CONGO A PENGUIN TOOK AN INTERNET A CD AND A SOURCECODE. HE STUCK IT WITH THE OTHERS AND HE DANCED A DIRTY TANGO. THE JEFFERY SAID "I KNOW, WE'LL CALL IT"
UBUNTU!
UBUNTU! UBUNTU! THEY INSTALL IT IN DE CONGO!
THE PHYTHON PICK THE PC THE MARMOSET THE MAC. THE PARROT PAINTED PACKETS THAT THE WHOLE CABOODLE LANDED IN. SO WHEN IT COMES TO SUN AND FUN AND GOODNESS IN THE JUNGLE THEY ALL PREFER THE SUNNY FUNNY ONE THEY CALL
UBUNTU!
*throws mic on floor and leaves stage*
nb- released under GNU, etc.
Creo. If polygamy is ever legallised. Please marry me.
What would Sage say?
I love American Party?
Creo wins the topic. Thread over, you can all go home now.
I will admit that my previous post could probably have been worded better. I wholehearted agree with the statement "Do not knock until you try it."
For those interested in buying a new computer with Ubuntu pre-installed and a hardware set-up that is guaranteed to work, I would recommend System76(www.system76.com). I have never actually bought a computer from them, but they are very highly reviewed within the Ubuntu Community and are one of the few(if not only) PC Makers that are dedicated specifically to quality Ubuntu-based PC.
For those interested in trying Linux on older computers, I would recommend trying Xubuntu, Ubuntu's lightweight offshoot.
On the note of republicans and democrats: Strangely, I lack respect for both parties, but by literal definitions I am both a democrat AND a republican. Stranger still, I hate the idea of political parties, but say the more the better.
To clarify the above paragraph: By literal definition, a democrat supports the idea of "power by the people" while a republican supports the idea of a chief of state who is not a monarch. I am both, that is to say that I support the idea of a government that is run by officials elected by the people and has a chief of state who is not a monarch. I support the idea of a Democratic Republic which is what most of "Free World" is.
As for disliking political parties, but thinking the more the better: Political parties act primarily has a way of dividing the country usually in an ill-formed manner. This is worst when you have just two major parties: One party tends to hold absolute control over the government and there is no balance of interests. When you have 3 or more political parties and no majority party, individuals are forced to sometimes disagree with their parties and significant numbers from two or more parties are forced to agree at some point. Ideally, there would be no parties and politicians would be elected and govern on their own terms instead of their party's terms.
And if the brief mention of my political views is not enough spam:
I like Chicken and Lime Shimp Ramen with Mexican cheese blend and Ms. Dash season blend.
Gah...
Looks like we have another Matthayter on our hands...
Can we make it a MoFo rule so that people can't write huge rants on a punchline? It upsets the natives.
Can we get back to proving that Windows > Linux?
I think you missed my post, Jeff. I'll repeat it a little louder.
Creo wins the topic. Thread over, you can all go home now.
Why are you glowing tie-dye now anyways?
*Shouts in the door after leaving* Too much Um Bongo.
Creo's lost the lead.
Okay I was wrong. Now the topic is over.
As long as you release that wave file in accordance with gnu and enabling people to modify it however they lke for it's improvement, then all will be alright.
Also @ nuch and box, this thread is not about winning or losing, but the further development of someone's creative thoughts and material to the end products, which in this case was erika's vocal recitement of the "UBUNTU song," in short this makes us all winners, and that is the true spirit of linux and what it stands for! *tear in eye*
