its so girlie now XD calling this the spam forum doesnt fit anymore <hugs shifty> good job!

and wow CT i didnt know that interesting.

My reaction.

If the sailors don't show up I will riot!!

you mean craig's sailor fans? or the sailormoon sailors?

I mean what I said...which is what I meant.

/couldn't help myself

Finally we get a temp theme that looks awesome.

I'm not very familiar with the Sailor Moon series but I recall coming across this episode through YTP... jeez, the guy in that group is made a doormat to a bunch of older girls who he apparently doesn't get to go out with... unless the bit at the end is supposed to have developed further or something, which I doubt... as if how scantily-clad the heroes were wasn't questionable enough. o.o

Miniskirts=/=scantily clad

DON'T BE A HAYTER, MATT.

Miniskirts=/=scantily clad

DON'T BE A HAYTER, MATT.

... well, maybe that wasn't the right phrase, but I don't know how to describe it. Mildly skanky?

I'M SORRY, MATT.

I CAN'T HEAR PAST THE SOUND OF YOU SIPPIN' ON THAT HAYTERADE. (j/k j/k)

Swimsuit episodes are generally not the ones to judge the rest of the series by; they're usually more of a "special episode" sort of reward for fans, whether in terms of actual fan service or simply because it lets the characters have a day off from their regular adventures...or not.

I thought he was talking about their Sailor Scout outfits.

He didn't correct my obnoxious, half-serious, outburst concerning the mini-skirts after all.

Miniskirts=/=scantily clad

DON'T BE A HAYTER, MATT.

... well, maybe that wasn't the right phrase, but I don't know how to describe it. Mildly skanky

unless they show their privates in public how can you possible call them skanky?
there's nothing wrong with miniskirts or bikinies your mom and sister can tell you that.... though they might slap you first.

Someone call?

Where are the other Sailors? I'm not by my lonesome am I?

*sniffles*

You rang, sweetie? ^_~

Yayz!

I'm not alone!

*tacklehugs Innuendo*

*looks at above posts*

This would be so great, if only it didn't involve Sailor Innuendo.

*moves along before Pretty Sailor Soldier Sickness breaks out*

Aww, you don't want to join us, Rapid?

*tacklehugs*

^Why I'm glad I made this topic.

The only way this could be better is if Sailor Nudity joined the fray.

Ah, Sailor Moon.

Being 12 when I originally watched it it had far more of an effect on me than it should have had.

*ahem* >_>;

^Why I'm glad I made this topic.

The only way this could be better is if Sailor Nudity joined the fray.

Hmm, we could draw out Sailor Modesty that way...

Ah, Sailor Moon.

Being 12 when I originally watched it it had far more of an effect on me than it should have had.

*ahem* >_>;

... what kind of effect do you mean?

And Mada, I don't remember saying a thing about "bikinis" being skanky, I was just saying that very short skirts, of the variety the sailorscouts are portrayed as wearing, are mildly skanky.

Being 12 when I originally watched it

I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself. 😛

Try to be more repressed, Matt.

By the by, the episode you judge the show on is entirely banned from all DVDs and re-runs, as the creator of the manga did not like it at all. But, again. Thanks for playing.

Sailor Moon was just Power Rangers for girls when Power Rangers was popular. Same show premise, same dynamics, same tedious "slice of real life" subplots and VERY SPECIAL EPISODES. Just, you know. It was anime and had mini-skirts, which made it better. It's a product of an era, and has been absoloutely and utterly NOT ALLOWED out of Eastern Asia for like 7 years now (ie: no DVD releases, published manga or TV broadcast. Italy are JUST getting a new one, but mostly it's Japan, China and Thailand who get lucky).

In closing: If you weren't there when it happened, you may never understand. I know many a girl who loved the show as it was the only place they could find strong heroic female rolemodels who embraced their gender identities and for guys well... It was a coming of age thing.

I never really got on the bandwagon myself, and stopped watching midway through R. But it's a show which deserves respect, attention and DVD releases in the USA with decent voice actresses. NOW.

People like Sailor Innuendo and Sailor Nudity have totally killed the Sailor meme with their Sailors who are essentially implicit endorsements of the attitude Matt said.  They're basically more subtle versions of Rishina.

To be fair, Vec, Sailor Nudity was one of the earlier results of the Sailor meme. I know that I saw Nudity around the forum a while before I created Sailor Unicron. There's a post of hers as early as February 2005 in MF Classics.

Besides, I can't recall anyone being offended by Innuendo and Nudity before now. Why the offense now?

I remember Sailor Uranus... which was just a bottomless, chibified, Sailor Moon sprite shown from the back. XD

I think a mod said something and she never appeared again, though.

They're not offensive, just kind of unentertaining and embarrassing. The meme started with sailors who were parodies of their posters' interests and personalities converted into elements of a sailor sentai squad. I'd like Sailorness to be amusing or participatory rather than, basically, reinforcing attitudes like those Matt said.

I'm overreacting to say it in such a vocal way to be honest.

DID SOMEONE CALL FOR A STRONG FEMALE ROLE MODEL?

The meme started with sailors who were parodies of their posters' interests and personalities converted into elements of a sailor sentai squad.

...are we to believe Innuendo and Nudity don't fall into these categories? :3

The meme started with sailors who were parodies of their posters' interests and personalities converted into elements of a sailor sentai squad.

...are we to believe Innuendo and Nudity don't fall into these categories? :3

Man makes a very good point.

Being 12 when I originally watched it

I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself. 😛

Still leaves it ambiguous, though. Did it create some kind of fetish for these kinds of characters, or just involve sexual thoughts while watching the show, or something else? I'm just curious, that's all.

Never mind then. 😛

And Mada, I don't remember saying a thing about "bikinis" being skanky, I was just saying that very short skirts, of the variety the sailorscouts are portrayed as wearing, are mildly skanky.

>_< how can miniskirts be skanky?  and on teen girls too?!  
they arent tight or revealing and they arent wearing them to seduce anyone, the show is innocent and the miniskirts are cute, they're like cheerleaders or tennis players so what's the big deal? we girls cant play sports without short skirts or short shorts and the such it doesnt matter if our briefs show we wear sports underwear you wont see anything. if in real life we wear them for sports isnt it sensible to picture us wearing mini skirts when fighting bad guys? 

     "In closing: If you weren't there when it happened, you may never understand. I know many a girl who loved the show as it was the only place they could find strong heroic female rolemodels who embraced their gender identities and for guys well... It was a coming of age thing"

and dont forget we girls love characters with neat clothes and hair styles, i dont like the show as much as i enjoy seen the characters XD

Methinks the lady doth protest too much, Mada. XP

I personally thought Vector's point earlier was valid, but since the Sailor trend on the board has always been more parody than 4 srs, the mentioned Sailor types could easily be parodies of the stereotypes some people have about Sailor stuff.

And that said, Sailor Modesty's original outfit was just the sailor suit with leggings.  By a stricter definition, skintight is just as revealing as bare skin, so take that as you will!

And as for Sailor Modesty...hope people have been keeping up with how
she's changed over the years, though she's still the Sailor Scout of
Heroism (which is different from being the Sailor Scout of Courage, mind
you).

'Sup.

EDIT: Here's a link to an even more recent pic of her.  http://lucidrant.deviantart.com/art/Request-Modesty-Hobbes-125291862

Your l33t art skills make me so jealous, Terg.

I only wish I could draw human characters as well as you.

And Mada, I don't remember saying a thing about "bikinis" being skanky, I was just saying that very short skirts, of the variety the sailorscouts are portrayed as wearing, are mildly skanky.

>_< how can miniskirts be skanky?  and on teen girls too?!  
they arent tight or revealing and they arent wearing them to seduce anyone, the show is innocent and the miniskirts are cute, they're like cheerleaders or tennis players so what's the big deal? we girls cant play sports without short skirts or short shorts and the such it doesnt matter if our briefs show we wear sports underwear you wont see anything. if in real life we wear them for sports isnt it sensible to picture us wearing mini skirts when fighting bad guys? 

     "In closing: If you weren't there when it happened, you may never understand. I know many a girl who loved the show as it was the only place they could find strong heroic female rolemodels who embraced their gender identities and for guys well... It was a coming of age thing"

and dont forget we girls love characters with neat clothes and hair styles, i dont like the show as much as i enjoy seen the characters XD

You sure you want to imply that you speak for an entire gender? I would think that what is more of an individual thing.

And shorts are a little different, they're not as... suggestive. It's hard to explain, really. Yeah, one shouldn't jump to conclusions about why people dress the way they do, but I'm trying to describe the attire from a more generic perspective, independent of whatever the reasons for wearing it are. It started out as more of a side-comment, really.

Your l33t art skills make me so jealous, Terg.

I only wish I could draw human characters as well as you.

You wish to draw human characters in cruddy stick-figure style?  I could give you a tutorial on that sometime.  For a small fee, of course!

Credit to those pictures I linked go to our own Shadowed Spirit Sage and to LucidRant, a DA artist, respectively.

     "Credit to those pictures I linked go to our own Shadowed Spirit Sage"

supergirl! yeah she's cool she should totally wear a sailor uniform, she'd be cute in it like that blue school uniform she wore.

*settles back on in, and flashes back to the good ole days, when there was none of this "tuxedo mask" stuff*

I thought Tuxedo Mask was always there?

I think he sort of represented the Sun in the Sailor Scouts...

I thought Tuxedo Mask was always there?

I think he sort of represented the Sun in the Sailor Scouts...

Oh sure, make the male figure the centre of their universe.

Sexist.

Your l33t art skills make me so jealous, Terg.

I only wish I could draw human characters as well as you.

You wish to draw human characters in cruddy stick-figure style?  I could give you a tutorial on that sometime.  For a small fee, of course!

Credit to those pictures I linked go to our own Shadowed Spirit Sage and to LucidRant, a DA artist, respectively.

Really?  Let me amend my statement then.

Sage's l33t art skills make me so jealous.

Didn't she also have a Sailor alt?  I want to say she did, but I can't remember.

As for Tuxedo Mask, he was pretty tough in the manga, but in the anime he was little more than a love interest to the heroine.

Still leaves it ambiguous, though.

Now

Now

We all need to settle down here.

Yes, that's right!  We need to change topics to something entirely non-controversial and non-inflammatory.  So I'll lead us off.

Best Sailor Scout ever!  Mercury, 'cause she's cute AND smart.  Topic over.

Also, is there a way to keep the theme from changing back to the default?

Also, is there a way to keep the theme from changing back to the default?

Hmm...do you have cookies enabled?  Not 100% sure what exactly might be going on,
but since cookies are used to store stuff like site preferences, I'm guessing the
problem with the theme switching back to default has something to do with those.

(Theme settings seem to stay put for me, at
least based on choosing a non-default theme, navigating out of SPA, then returning
to it to find that it remained at whatever theme I had selected before.)

Best Sailor Scout ever!  Mercury, 'cause she's cute AND smart.  Topic over.

waaa i agree i love her the most too
and as a sonic fan comminuty you all have to love her too since she's blue like sonic XD