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You know, Gary wasn't really such a bad person after all.

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(@hukos)
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March 21



Gary Oak was the nice guy all along.

In
the original Pokémon Red/Blue, when you encounter your rival in
Lavender Town he asks whether or not you know what it’s like to have
one of your Pokémon die. At this point in the game, he no longer has
his Raticate that he used in previous battles. Your rival battle before
this took place aboard the S.S. Anne. Your rival’s Raticate sustained
serious injuries from the battle… but, because crowding and confusion
on the luxury liner, he was unable to make it to a Pokémon Center in
time and the Raticate passed away. The real reason your rival is in
Lavender Town to begin with is to lay his deceased friend to rest.
Despite all of this, your rival never outwardly tells you that you’re
responsible for the death of his Pokémon. He hides his grief and
instead channels that energy into the motivation he needed to continue
his quest to become Indigo League Champion. The death of his Raticate
effectively destroys your rival’s impish, childhood innocence. Although
he tells himself that he doesn’t hold you responsible, he
subconsciously holds a great deal of resentment towards you which
further fuels his ambitions. Tearfully swearing upon his Raticate’s
grave to not fail in what he set out to do, he trains hard in hopes of
becoming better than you… defeating you… and to eventually make it to
the Pokémon League. Mere moments after he became Indigo League
champion, he was defeated… by you. Although he fulfilled his promise to
his fallen Pokémon, it was only for a painfully brief instant. In the
end, your rival is scolded by his grandfather while you receive the
professor’s praise. During the course of the game, you steal your
rival’s innocence, crush his dreams, and ultimately snatch away the
love of his own grandfather. Oh, and by the way, your rival doesn’t
have any parents. He’s an orphan.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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But Gary Oak rides around in a ferrari with a group of cheerleaders. You cannot ignore his awesome. And in the anime, Gary totally takes every opportunity to show Ash how crappy he is.

So Gary is the true winner of life.

Plus, he drives a ferrari full of hos and he's not even 13. I can only dream of being that pimp.

 
(@episonic)
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Lol. So which would you choose? Living a video game life as a loser who's dreams have been crushed and whatnot, whilst living a TV life as an awesome pimp dude who can 1up everybody and get chicks? Or vice versa. I'd do it the way it already is... the tricked out anime life and the suckass game life.

 
(@hukos)
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But Gary Oak rides around in a ferrari with a group of cheerleaders. You cannot ignore his awesome. And in the anime, Gary totally takes every opportunity to show Ash how crappy he is.

So Gary is the true winner of life.

Plus, he drives a ferrari full of hos and he's not even 13. I can only dream of being that pimp.

Yes but he does that to hide his inner pain for his poor friend Raticate. On the inside he's crying himself to sleep every night, wishing his Raticate was right by his own side. And not to mention he probably beats them up when no ones looking because he can't contain his inner rage of losing his best friend. Gary has issues.

 
(@episonic)
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Only because we made it that way, lol. We're such bad people.

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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I don't recall a Gary Oak in my pokeymans. I remember a Blue Oak, though... or was it Green?

 
(@kaylathehedgehog)
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I think it might be Green.

Wasn't Blue the girl?

 
(@nelstone)
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Leaf was the girl. And leaves are green.

 
(@ctsucks-666)
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lol Did you get this from TVTropes?

And if he IS holding a grudge against Red he should probably just let go since he took those kinds of risks when he became a Pokemon Trainer.

Besides, it's never EXPLICITLY said his Raticate died because of you. Maybe it got old or someone else did the poor thing in. D:

 
(@kaylathehedgehog)
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You're right. I was thinking of the manga.

 
(@ctsucks-666)
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...I thought Blue was that chick with the long brown hair and the obsession with Mon-wait, did Acrio just make that up?

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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In Japan, Red's rival was named Green (as there were two Pokemon games at the time: Red and Green). A female protagonist (based somewhat on the "Lass" trainer class) was considered during development but eventually dropped. Eventually a new version of the game called Blue was released, which addressed some in-game bugs and cleaned up some of the graphics (including new pokemon sprite art).

Various mangas appeared, and (at least) one of them introduced the dropped female player character into lore as Blue. Eventually the games came overseas as Pokemon Red and Blue, their game code based entirely on Japan's Pokemon Blue. I don't think anyone really knows why Green wasn't considered as Red's alternate. But because of that, Trainer Red's rival ended up being named Blue. And when the manga came over as well, the female protag was called Green since Blue was taken.

Newer Pokemon games that came after Generation I finally introduced female player characters, so when it came time to remake Red and Green as FireRed and LeafGreen, "Blue" was updated with a new look and included as Red's female alternate. In-game code, however, referred to her character as "Leaf". So as far as the games are concerned, she is Leaf. The Pokemon Adventures manga updated "Blue" to the new look but kept the name, as did the translated version (where she's "Green").

#+#@'s convoluted, yo.

 
(@kaylathehedgehog)
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I thought the reason they chose to use Blue over Green was because Green had really ugly sprites.

 
(@psxphile_1722027877)
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Both the original Red and Green had ugly sprites, yes. But I wasn't talking about that. I already explained that our Red and Blue were based on Japan's nicer looking Blue version. But "our" Blue could have easily been called "Green" but wasn't. This is where the naming confusion stems from.

 
(@kaylathehedgehog)
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Perhaps they flipped a coin.

 
(@episonic)
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Yeah, thats a possibility. *read in an over-the-top sarcastic tone*

EDIT: Fixed?

 
(@the-turtle-guy-u)
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^is 80% more meaningful/entertaining read in an over-the-top sarcastic tone.

 
(@episonic)
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Thats how I meant it to be read.

 
(@shifty)
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You should have told us

"wether we try to avoide it or not we all ate insects."-sonicsfan1991

 
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