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(@argent-silver)
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Well, looks like it's about time for another one of my random information-requesting posts. Basically, I'm tired of playing FPSes and MMO's for PC. I've always played FPSes more for their online gameplay than the singleplayer, and of course that's all you get out of MMO's, and I've come to the conclusion that I need to get away from online games for awhile. The people you meet in online games are quite frankly jerks- they try to tell you how to play and that you're wrong for playing the way you do. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't need someone telling me how to play, especially if I don't even know them.

So, this brings me to my point- I'm looking for an offline RPG that I can delve into for awhile. I've considered getting Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, but I'm skeptical of the first-person view and I'm also not sure if my machine can handle it. Here's my specs, in case you haven't seen them around here before:

-1.7 GHz Intel Celeron Processor (this is the biggest thing holding me back)
-768 MB RAM
-Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB Video Card

Even if I can only run a game on the minimal settings, I'm fine with that, as long as the game is runnable. I don't care how old the game is really, but I'd like to experience some newer games. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

 
(@Anonymous)
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Diablo II.

 
(@argent-silver)
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No thanks. I've played it at a friend's house a few times and it seems like nothing but a mindless point-and-click to me.

 
(@thecycle)
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Need For Speed: Most Wanted.

 
(@Anonymous)
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No thanks. I've played it at a friend's house a few times and it seems like nothing but a mindless point-and-click to me.


Dude, you JUST SAID you play MMOs.

 
(@argent-silver)
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I also just said I'm not interested in playing games like that anymore, if you had bothered to read the post. Besides, I don't think all MMOs are point and click fests.

 
(@thecycle)
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Play Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind. It'll definitely ROXXOR on your BOXXOR.

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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Pfft.
You want the really good RPGs for the pc? The ones that are more than point-and-click combat and generic plot?
Ignore Morrowind. You're quite right to ignore Diablo, as well.
The best single-player RPGs you're going to find are Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn and Planescape: Torment.
Both are old, so your amchine will run them. Both have a quality of writing, choice and deep characterisation unmatched by any other games. Ever. They make Final Fantasy look like the kid's cartoon it really is.
These two games are the only RPGs that actually are. They're about playing a role and making difficult, ambiguous and believable moral situations, rather than crunching through levels and picking artificial good/evil choices. These games are actually as well-written as a good fantasy novel, rather than as a bad Hollywood film.
They do take a little while to get into, but if you don't want explosions in the first five minutes then you should be able to cope.
Seriously. Baldur's Gate 2 is still prettty easy to find. Torment is harder, but can be got online.
Unless Oblivion lives up to its potential, these are the best RPGs out there. Still.

Btw, I'm running Oblivion on a 1.7ghs Athlon processor, on minimum settings, and it does ok. Mind you, I have 1Gb of Ram and a 512mb Geforce 6200, so I think I'm a bit ahead of you there....

 
(@thecycle)
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I can't believe I forgot Planescape Torment. Holy Christ.

 
(@johnny-chopsocky)
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What about Fallout and Fallout 2?

 
(@thecycle)
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Seven words:

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

 
(@antipode)
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Neverwinter Nights?

If only to play the SUPERB modules from Adam Miller (Shadowlords 1-7, Dreamcatcher 1-5, and Demon). These things are quality; my wife and I played through them all when we were dating, and it took a while -- never finished Demon, actually. The guy even turned down a job at BioWare.

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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Seven words:

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.


It's good, but it's no Baldur's Gate 2.
The dialogue and writing are inferior, the characterisation shallower, the moral choices more cliched and black-and-white, the combat lacking in tactical depth.
It's got shinier graphics, but since when has that meant anything?

Fallout 2's an excellent little RPG, but a bit unpolished for some. And it can't compare to the depth of character in Torment or BG2 either.

Speaking of NWN, the Hordes of the Underdark official module has its moments. Just a bit linear/small.

 
(@thecycle)
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The dialogue and writing are inferior, the characterisation shallower, the moral choices more cliched and black-and-white, the combat lacking in tactical depth.
That doesn't stop it being a good game. In fact, it's the best Star Wars game since TIE Fighter, if not the best one ever. It does what George Lucas has proven himself incapable of doing with 350 million dollars over eight years, without being derivative of the original trilogy.

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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That doesn't stop it being a good game. In fact, it's the best Star Wars game since TIE Fighter, if not the best one ever. It does what George Lucas has proven himself incapable of doing with 350 million dollars over eight years, without being derivative of the original trilogy.


I believe I started my post by saying "It's good...."
This is a fact I don't deny. I like the game, liked playing it, it's one of the better RPGs out there. My comments still stand, as I am a harsh man who compares games to the best of their genre, by which comparison it suffers.

 
(@emerald-hedgehog)
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Well, I don't know much about pc's but I know Oblivion is a very good game. Playing it on Xbox at the moment and it's not a disappointment. It's kind of like a rpg where you can increase in abilities eg slashing weapons, blocking effectiveness etc.
There is plenty to do. :thumbsup

 
(@thecycle)
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It's kind of like a rpg where you can increase in abilities eg slashing weapons, blocking effectiveness etc.
...so it's an RPG, then.

 
(@emerald-hedgehog)
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...so it's an RPG, then.


So is what an rpg? :?

Anyway, the fact is that the game is worth a look in my opinion.

 
(@thecycle)
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So is what an rpg?
You said Oblivion is "kind of like a rpg where you can increase in abilities eg slashing weapons, blocking effectiveness etc". A game where you play the role of a character with a bunch of numerical stats that improve over time isn't kind of like and RPG, it is an RPG.

 
(@emerald-hedgehog)
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A game where you play the role of a character with a bunch of numerical stats that improve over time isn't kind of like and RPG, it is an RPG


Fine, it's an rpg then. :^^

 
(@xagarath-ankor)
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A game where you play the role of a character with a bunch of numerical stats that improve over time isn't kind of like and RPG, it is an RPG.


By that logic, a platformer where your number of lives improve over time is an RPG.

 
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