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New Smash Bros.! Solid Snake! SONIC! Not kidding!

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(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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Let the joyful weeping commence.

Joystiq has screens. They're really playing up Snake's appearance, it even has one of those codec conversations and a cardboard box and everything.

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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I am buying a Wii. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

This is the first time I've been so heavily anticipating a console since...EVER.

 
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Confirmed NEW characters:

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# Pit (Kid Icarus)
# Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid)
# Zero Suit Samus (the blue "no-suit" Samus from Metroid: Zero Mission)
# Meta-Knight (Kirby)
# Wario (Wario)


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Mario, Kirby, Pikachu and Link have been confirmed as returning characters.


Two ways to control the game! Wii remote and GC controller!

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Shadow Hog wrote:
Let the joyful weeping commence.


Now let the sobbing start...

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The bad news is that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will no longer be a Wii launch title, but will instead be released in 2007.


Damn it...It was too good to be true...DAMN!

EDIT: They keep adding stuff to it! 10-15 minutes ago, Wario wasn't in the list. When I first posted they didn't have anything about possible having more 3rd party cameos...

DAMNIT IGN! ...well, not damn it...

FIRST SCREENS!

wait...Who's that chick?...

IT'S FREAKING SAMUS ARAN! DAMN NINTENDO!

I'm am psycked about this game!

EDIT EDIT:

Trailer...Watch...Be Amazed...

 
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Food for thought: If Kirby ate Snake, what would Snake Kirby come out looking like?

Heh. Kirby with a mullet. That'd be hilarious.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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This is terrifying. Everything I was talking to Dub about last night happened while I was sleeping.

I knew they were sitting on this thing.

I wish you had just linked to the video, I swear I screamed with excitement when I saw Snake.

This.

Is.

The.

Best.

Thing.

EVER!
I was half afraid the Wii had WiFi problems, as it was the only way to justify this thing not being there.

 
(@thecycle)
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I searched Nintendo's booth high and low and could not find any playable Smash Bros. It increased my urge to kill considerably.

 
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If Kirby ate Snake, what would Snake Kirby come out looking like?


Like a badass. Duh.

 
(@john-taylor_1722027898)
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I never really liked Super Smash Bros >_>
Or Metal Gear Solid <_<
*Hides behind tiny umbrella expecting to be bricked*
If I get a Wii I probably get this then.
I dont know why. Theres something about SSB that makes me buy it then regret it. :(

 
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*cues the MGS2 heavy metal theme*

I love Hideo Kojima

I love Nintendo

I love gaming

Rock on MoFo!

Seriously the Wii is showing off a lot nicer than I intialy thought this is....amazing.

~T2K

 
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The rumour of Nack making an appearance in Sonic Riders gave me an erection...THIS IS A FULL ON GEEK-GASM OF PANTS-CREAMING PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean... OH MY GAAAWWWWWWWWWDD!!! METAKNIGHT!!!

SNAKE!

POSSIBILITY OF SONIC!!

MAYBE OTHER 3RD-PARTY CHARACTERS!!!

If this is a dream, don't wake me. It's the best wet dream of my life.

 
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BTW, that music theme? Nobuo Uematsu (the Final Fantasy music guy) made that.

Nintendo's even offering MP3s of it, if you like.

 
(@craig-bayfield)
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Listen or download the theme at the official site

Curse your edit, Shadow Hog!

 
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I was just seraching IGN at school, when I saw this, and when I realised that I couldn't view the railer there, I have comee home just to view it.

As you can guess, I likey. I likey very much. Anticipation has shot up 10000% for this game with the announcement of Snake in it.

With the original creator of SSB returning to help create this game, being able to use GC controllers, Wario, Snake, Meta-Knight...This actually transcends awesome.

No news on online play, BUT WHO CARES?! IT'S SOLID SNAKE!

EDIT: Just watched the trailer. Anticipation rises another 10000%. Looks like those items that resemble the SSB icon let you use some sort of finishing moves. And the Snake bit at the end...Too awesome for words.

 
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No news on online play, BUT WHO CARES?! IT'S SOLID SNAKE!


Actually, it's been confirmed that this uses Wi-Fi, although the creator admits getting four people online will be hard.

Anyway, we have Snake. If you count MetaKnight's thingy, we have a plane. Now all we need is Samuel L. Jackson.

 
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The rumour of Nack making an appearance in Sonic Riders gave me an erection...THIS IS A FULL ON GEEK-GASM OF PANTS-CREAMING PROPORTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ah yes, I remember that all too well.

Well when most of us will get this game, we should get online and kick the **** out of each other. Hopefully, there will be a wifi friend code topic or something.

Anyway, Super Smash Bros Brawl (or SSBB) really has me excited. I'm so giddy.

 
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Awesome.Samus and Pit looks pretty kick ass and Snake and Nintedogs are in it. Now all we need is for them to put Sonic in it to make it even cooler.

 
(@thunder1)
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Another chance for Sonic!! Yayz!

Yep, another Super Smash Bros. was inevitable, since it's one of the hottest games for the GCN. Speaking of which, I am four short of having all the trophies for Melee (promotionals don't count). Go me!

 
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In great contrast to practically every single person on Earth, my anticipation hasn't risen by a degree. Why? Because it's not 100% confirmed that they're going the full mile and including bucketloads of non-Ninty characters.

If they're including Snake, they can include everyone. Having over 100 unique characters would be indulgantly easy and could prove to be a good selling point.

Ending on a more positive note, this quote makes me smile on the inside as much as hearing news of good 2D games in this day and age tends to. Super Smash Bros. Brawl will be fully compatible with the GameCube controller. Sakurai's reasoning is simple. He doesn't want to alienate gamers that prefer the traditional gamepad.

 
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Excuse me a second, I need to go over there and geek out.

 
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Having over 100 unique characters would be indulgantly easy and could prove to be a good selling point.


Hellz no. It might be not DIFFICULT, but each character needs to be individually animated and have a unique moveset unless they're clones. That would take assloads of time and money for licensing. Also, with that many characters, you are guaranteed to throw balance out the window.

 
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Don't be hatin' cause the Snake man looks good with a mullet. BUT YES! GOOD GOD HAVE MERCY ON MY SOUL! SOLID SNAKE, WARIO, SUITLESS SAMUS! YES! Think of all the other characters they're not telling us about too. I mean, I know there's even more hidden characters. Imagine the possibilities. Maybe Liquid Snake or some other MGS character will show up. Also, if they keep the tradition of the costume changing at the character select screen, maybe Snake will be able to switch from his MGS, MGS2, and MGS3 uniforms. God that would be coool. I need to save up for this thing. Never been so amped about a system.

 
(@hypersonic2003)
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I am officially unable of having kids now. So my apologies to my future wife. Yea saw this on Wikipedia at school today. Netaknight has always appeared as a SSB character to me. Snake didn't, but after seeing the trailer he does. Yay. Then the fact that you can use the GC controller makes me yell. And Samus...is indeed a babe. *laughed at*

 
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Holy crap o_o Snake. I really need a Wii now, after seeing this and MP3: Corruption, heck yes I need a Wii, bad. (no jokes or I'll slap you.) That and the online/wifi/whatever and using the GC controller..? Heaven. So much Heaven. Time to go play SSBM.

 
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Holy crap o_o Snake. I really need a Wii now

Lol 😀
Meh to Snake. Also Samus looks mad. Very Mad.
This game needs Shadow more than Sonic. I just think 3 on Shadow will be great. Also it wouldn't look wierd for him to hold a Nintendo gun thing.

 
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This game needs Shadow more than Sonic. I just think 3 on Shadow will be great. Also it wouldn't look wierd for him to hold a Nintendo gun thing.


Stay far away from the people making this game.

 
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I'm been creating a moveset for Snake for no reason.

Standing still A: Punch, punch, kick combo from MGS2.
Walking A: Straight kick from MGS1.
Running A: Dive attack.
Smash Foward: Nikita melee attack (In MGS2, when you had the Nikita you could club people with it.)

Up A: Headbutt.
Smash Up A: Upwards shoulder ram.

Down A: Crouching kick.
Smash Down A: Elbow drop.

B: Three handgun shots.
Foward B: Nikita Rocket Launcher, with missle-guiding ala Ness's PK Thunder.
Down B: Lay a claymore.
Up B: I still have no idea what to put here.

Guard: Cardboard box.
Roll: Two quick steps with the box.

 
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For UP B, Snake would borrow The Fury's jetpack.

 
(@shadow-hog_1722585725)
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If Snake fights Link and Young Link, and kills the latter, how long will it take before Campbell starts lecturing him on creating a time paradox?

 
(@shadowed-spirit-sage)
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Holy crap holy crap holy crap....

I prefer the greener Link, but still. TWILIGHT PRINCESS SEXINESS. WARIO AWESOMENESS. Don't know much about Snake, but it's gotta be a good thing if everybody's hyped about it. And METAKNIGHT <3

I'll get the game for gameplay, I promise. >> **hides eyecandy**

~Shadowed Spirit Sage

 
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When I first heard about the new SSB, my friend had IMed me and told me about it, and I was jumping for joy. Then he told me Snake was in it. I told you you don't joke about things like that, I really thought the game was coming out. Well, I saw the news on multiple sites, and realized he was serious. Freaking INSANE.

It's funny, me and my friend were considering the move list for Snake, and came to the same conclusion about the moves, basically, using CQC moves and the weapons, except we left out the Melee with the Nikita (But did agree on Nikita control, like Ness), and I thought that there would be a strong, one shot attack with B, maybe a Socom, or a PSG-1, and another attack would be a less powerful, rapid fire attack, such as the FAMAS. Also, we were undecided over if they would use a Claymore, and be like the mine weapon, or a C4 that you can detonate yourself.

I'm also slightly worried about the inclusion of Zero Suit Samus, just because the Samus in the first two SSBs was one of my favorite characters, I wouldn't want her replaced. Then again, there is Link/Young Link, Mario/Dr. Mario, so who knows.

I knew I was getting a Wii since it was announced as the Revolution, but really, this is great. Too bad it's not a launch title anymore...

 
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Well, SSBM had Link and YOUNG Link. Ir's only logical to assume the same applies to Samus and Zero Suit.

 
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Which is why I used that example, no? My problem with that as an example, though, is that Young Link was an unlockable, and not only that, but a clone. I don't want that to be the same with Samus. It's a cheap way of boosting up the characters in the game, and doesn't reflect well on the series when you have characters with the EXACT same move sets. (Pikachu/Pichu, Mario/Dr. Mario/Luigi (Sort of), Roy/Marth, Captain Falcon/Ganondorf...)

 
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Well, if you say the trailer, you saw ZS-Samus slash at Pit. So she'll probably have some laser sword moves.

 
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Uh, you guys might want to scan that video again. That energy weapon of hers is most definitely NOT a sword per se, but a whip or sword/whip combo. She wields it as one, anyway.

EDIT: Which begs the question...

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Well, when I first saw the trailer, I thought the blur was due to the speed of the light sword or whatever you want to call it.

And X_X @ Samus = Ivy.

 
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On to other things, I believe that castle in the trailer is part of Fire Emblem? From what I've heard, it bears a resembelence to Daein Castle from FE9. Supposely the flag inside the castle interior is the flag of that castle. I really don't know, since I never played Fire Emblem 9. However, this would seem to raise chances for Ike. However, I prefer Eliwood or Ephraim.

EDIT: On the subject of Snake...

"Since Snake will be in Smash Bros. I'm going to be making new stages for him to have fun in the game." So unlike Marth and Roy in Super Smash Bros. Melee, Snake will actually have his own stage to call home in the new title!"
http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/2006/05/001664.html

More Kojima. Sweeet...

 
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Hmm... None of the environments in MGS1/2 are vertical enough for a good level. Maybe the helipad from Big Shell with lots of boxes.

I hope "Cry Dead Cell" is the music for his level.

 
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The best ideas for a Snake stage would be atop Metal Gear or the VR training world.

I can't really get an accurate picture of Snake in the game, though. Until I can invision a B+Up attack, he's just a cameo to me.

 
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I can see a Snake level in Adventure mode being something like infiltrating Outer Heaven, and defeating Metal Gear at the end, that would be cool. Dunno about a multiplayer stage though, On top of Metal Gear seems like the best idea.

 
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And the metal gear is firing nukes off into the distance and fighting someone down the stage, on the floor. If Snake is in the match, Metal Gear'll be fighting Snake. If he isn't, it'll be Raiden down there.

 
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I'd just assume they'd adapt the Arsenal Gear final area. A flat stage with some generic floating platforms that appear and disappear at random. And as THS mentions, having a Metal Gear(s) (Ray, I suppose) firing the occasional volley of missiles onto the stage would be all kinds of awesome and appropriateness.

 
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All Snake-itude aside, if they're adding another Pokemon to this game (LOL if) It MUST be Snorlax.

Although I'll settle fro Blaziken because even though he's totally useless his character design is totally bitchin'.

 
(@the-impossible-box)
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THS didn't mention that, I did. Although it's not the first time we've been mixed up.

 
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The Impossible Shadow
The Human Box

 
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Stay out of this, Ultra. This is between me and THS over there.

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Oh. I'm sorry, it's just for a second there...

 
(@ultra-sonic-007)
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Heke? oo;

 
(@gt-koopa)
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*whistles nonchalantly*

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I've seen the trailer for this, its great. ^__^ Oh and one more thing...


The Human Box!!! XD

 
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I just realized something. If Sonic's in this game and so is the Ray Gun and Super Scope......

Sonic: Screw it all, I'm using guns!

0_o

 
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He should get automatically replaced with Shadow whenever he picks up a gun.

 
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