You guys show great resilience. Where other internet topics for this game have devolved into "OMG I WANT TO PLAY XXX ROFL" due to the Snake annoucement, the lot of you have stayed the course and kept the fanboy/fangirl (hi Sage) -yiness down to a pretty respectable minimum.
WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!
I mean, c'mon! Don't tell me you don't want to speculate who else gets the Snake treatment? A rare opportunity has made itself available. Before, the roster was relegated to the Nintendo first party stable of mascot characters. Now, the doors have been flung open and Sakurai-sensei's the one with the key. It's time to drown ourselves in our own drool and discuss the possibilities before us.
Okay, okay... we've already have it in our minds that Sonic would make an ideal choice as a third party combatant in SSB:B. Now, let's pretend for the sake of argument that if the developers were only allowed to have one third party character from anyone who's made games for a Nintendo system past and present, who would be the one character most suitable to be tossed into SSB:B? A character that not only represents the best of what that company has to offer, but someone you'd also like to play as.
Sonic's already been mentioned, so you can't use him. That represents the Sega camp. So no mentioning of other Sega characters is allowed now, so no Vyse (damn!), Beat, Sarah Bryant, Shinobi, Ristar or anyone else from the same camp. Konami also has its representative in Snake, so nothing from them either.
Oh, and don't bring in non-Nintendo third parties into the mix. The Master Chief isn't leaving the Xbox anytime soon.
To begin, I nominate good ol' Mega Man/Rockman from Capcom. Probably the most recognizable of all Capcom's mascot characters and probably the only one most people won't complain about being in SSB:B (fighting purists would have a heart attack if Ryu or Ken were used!). I don't have any move sets in mind, but I suppose they could just borrow whatever's available from the Marvel Vs. Capcom series.
Psx, I nominate Master Chief anyways. Bite me.
B: Grenade throw. There's a random chance it will be a Plasma Grenade instead of a frag.
OR
Takes out a random Halo weapon (excluding Rockets, Fuel Rods, Sniper, or Energy sword) and fires continuously; aim with control stick once he starts firing.
Foward B: Rocket Launcher with slight homing; homes in on larger characters stronger.
OR
Throws a Plasma Nade.
Up B: Uppercut slash with Energy Sword
Down B: Crouches and fires Sniper Rifle; continue holding B and aim with Control Stick.
*pikachu does a thunderbolt and shortcircuits master chief's armor*
revealing none other than team rocket! *gasp*
Hmm...other companies characters....
Well, ignoring what others have said, my personal choices would be:
Capcom: Viewtiful Joe, simply because he suits the style perfectly, none better out there.
Namco: Sophitia, since Link was in Soul Calibur, have her since she would be the equal trade. ^_^
Tecmo: Kasumi, the Pangya version.
SNK: One of the Metal Slug characters, Fio or Marco.
Sqyare Enix: Erm....a lot of choice....maybe Tifa since she's a fighter....or Sabin....or Shadow.....or Zell...VIVI!!!!
Erm....can't remember anyone outside of those companies that I love....I'll have to search.
Anyway, I'm really excited by this game, I can't wait to see more of it and all the new and old characters it will feature! ^_^
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You guys show great resilience. Where other internet topics for this game have devolved into "OMG I WANT TO PLAY XXX ROFL" due to the Snake annoucement, the lot of you have stayed the course and kept the fanboy/fangirl (hi Sage) -yiness down to a pretty respectable minimum.
WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE!
When they bring Crash Bandicoot, then I'll act like a crazed fangirl.
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Namco: Sophitia, since Link was in Soul Calibur, have her since she would be the equal trade.
Pfft, no way.
Observe:
(Directions apply while facing right)
Lloyd Irving
NOTE: All tech names will be named at their most basic levels, but may have effects not gained until upgrades.
Ground attacks:
A:Right sword stab (2%)
A,A: Right-left combo (2%,4%)
A,A,A: Right-left-dual stab combo (2%,4%,8%)
A (repeatedly): Sword rain (Like Link's illusion stab)(2%...)
^+A: Upward stab (5%)
>+A: Step forward w/quick slice (6%)
<+A: Quick turn w/horizontal slice (3%)
/+A: Leg sweep (2%, spikes enemy on edge of platform))
Air Attacks
Nair: Dual sword spin (3%,3%,3%,6%)
>+Air: Meteor dual slash (Spike) (7%)
<+Air:Same as Fair, but slower and doesn't spike (5%)
>+Air: A slower-falling version of Link's sword plant (9%)
Smash Attacks
A: Sonic Thrust (17%, 25% charged)
>+A: Slashes swords in an 'X' (15%,no extra charge damage but knocks enemy straight back with great force)
<+A: Three-slash combo (10%,10%,15%, 15%,15%,20% charged)
^+A: Tiger Blade (13%,16%)
/+A: Stabs swords outward in either direction, high knockback (13% front, 10% back/ 19%front, 6% back charged)
Special Attacks
B: Demon Fang (Can be charged)- Slashes upwards with sword, creating an energy wave that travels forward for a preset distance depending on charge or until hitting a wall, shrinking in size and damage as it goes. (8% sword hit, 15% wave at start of path, 3% wave at end of path, wave can score multiple hits)
>+B: Beast- Stabs forward with both swords, freezing any enemies hit by the initial thrust, then sends a huge shockwave of energy forward through the swords, extending about 3 sword lengths from Lloyd and damging all enemies heavily (10%+freeze sword, 30% Shockwave)
^+B: Tempest- (Leaps into the air and spins with swords extended vertically, scoring multiple hits on anyone in the way (3% each hit)
/B: Guardian- Blocks attacks similar to blocking, but has a small duration and can reflect some projectiles tht are not laser-based or fireballs. Also turns attackers around similar to Mario's cape (TEH CAPE>j00)
Super Smash
Unison Attack: Three randomly-selected party members from Tales of Symphonia appear and perform a random technique each in a manner similar to the unison attack from ToS, then diappear once again. (Damage decided based on party members selected and the attacks they use)
EA - John Madden...
He'd have an attack similar to Jigglypuff, boring the others to sleep with his commentary.
2k games- The 2006Colorado Avalanche
Know how the ice climbers operated? 2 peopel controlled by one person?
Yea. It's like that. Except a whole Hockey roster.
Were Zell in the game, I would get it upon grounds of sheer unexpectedness.
Midway - Goro. Heck yes. Screw the ninjas and the shaolin and go for the big guy (Kintaro and Motaro doesn't count). That said Rain makes wearing purple look cool at the moment.
Dont know how it would work. Maybe a bit like Bowser.
I'm doing a Sonic moveset cause I want too.
Sonic the Hedgehog
Size: ***
Weight: **
Power:
Speed: ** (duh)
Jump: ****
A: A left kick
AA: A right kick
AAA: A Flip kick but with little knockback
Side A: A strong kick
Smash Side A: Sonic does a strong lunge kick
Up A: Sonic throws an upward punch
Smash Up A: Spin Dash in place. Launches opponents upward
Down A: Sonic uses a trip attack
Smash Down A: Sonic sweeps one of his legs in a fast motion.
(Sonic does his classic Spin Dash Attack for his jump. It can cause damage)
Air A: Sonic does a somersault in the air
Air Up A: Sonic does an aerial flip kick
Air Down A: Sonic spins like a drill. This attack is a spike
Air Side A: Sonic does a swipe with his hand
Dash A: Sonic does the sliding kick from Aventure 2 and Heroes
Grab: Sonic uses Magical Grab (From Sonic Adventure 2)
Grab A or Z: Sonic gives a simple punch
Up Throw: Sonic uses Blue Tornado to launch foes upward. Although not as a big in Sonic Heroes, other foes can get caught in the wind. High Knockback
Side Throw: Sonic throws his opponent foward while they're still in that ball form from Magic Hands. Fair Knockback
Back Throw: Same as the side throw but he throws his opponents behind him. Fair Knockback
Down Throw: Sonic performs a stationary Spin Dash Attack on top of the rival.
B: Spin Dash Attack- Hold B for more power. We all know the attack looks like 
He's not able to turn as quickly as Jigglypuff's Rollout
Side B: Sonic Wind- Sonic uses his fists and launches blue wind at his foe. Long Range Attack
Up B: Chaos Control- Similar to Mewtwo's and Zelda's Up B Sonic disappears and reappears in another area.
Down B: Bounce Attack- Sonic performs his bounce attack. Little knockback
Super Attack: Light Speed Attack. Sonic will have blue arua around him and perform his powerful Light Speed Attack. He'll fly rapidly in all directions damaging foes.
But where's the Homing Attack in that list? And Magic Hands should be used for the throw, of course. And for his shield... Make it a classic green shield that fades in color to indicate its longevity.
Green shields aren't "classic". Blue ones are.
It's been confirmed that Sakurai only wants to add one or two more non-Nintendo characters, and the precondition is that they must have had a presence on a Nintendo console before (and no manga characters). This doesn't limit much, since I believe we were thinking that anyway, but still.
Homing Attack wouldn't make much sense. This game is going to be in 2D movement. The only reason Homing Attack existed was because Sonic needed an easy way to attack foes in 3D games.
Homing attack would make lots of sense.
It'd essentially be Pikachu's Up+B only with a tendency to home in on people who are close.
Of course, you'd have to give it two attacks like Pikachu's, just in case sonic homed in the wrong direction so he wouldn't be royally boned. Besides, we've already got enough "Disappear and then reappear 6 feet from where you were" attacks. Although maybe Shadow could use CC?
www.smashbros.com/en/characters/
1P Snake stage is essentially confirmed by the central screenshot on his character page.
Looks like the Metal Gear REX hangar from MGS1. How apropos.
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After much consideration, we decided to have Snake refrain from using real-world gunsinstead, he'll use lots of explosives.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
www.revo-europe.com/news.php?nid=9255
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More new faces will allegedly be heading to Super Smash Bros. Brawl, though some from Melee will apparently not be included...
Reports are spreading across the net that Smash Bros. director Masashiro Sakurai talked about the title briefly on Tokyo Radio's "The Gaming Show", though due to the nature of the source we cannot confirm if these much-spread details are legit.
Apparently however, Sakurai confirmed that the upcoming Wii incarnation of the game will feature Bowser Jr., Samus' long-time enemy Ridley, and a Wind Waker style cel-shaded Link all as playable characters. At the same time, he said that the Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch, and Young Link would not be returning.
We're searching for a recording of the show to confirm this one way or the other - stay tuned!
I expected Wind Waker Link to replace Young Link, here's hoping Zelda isn't replaced with her WW version, though I wouldn't mind that for Ganon.
I definitly wouldn't mind cel-shaded Link (I like Wind Waker), but I could do without Bowser Jr. I hate that little guy. BRING ON MORE 7 KOOPA KIDS!
It's fake everybody. This dumb rumor have been spread like wildfire.
Not that I doubt you SV2, but where are the articles calling this fake? Not that I trust the past rumors either.
I first heard this rumor on Gamefaqs. Then later, I also heard that the guys who first posted that admitted it was fake. Surely if there was a radio annoucement, it would also have been in the Japanese website of Smash Bros. The websites aciddentally picked up a lie.
Not one to bump up an old topic but....
(speaks into an intercom)
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE!
There might be a new Brawl trailer coming out Nov. 2nd.
I REPEAT! THERE MIGHT BE A NEW BRAWL TRAILER COMING OUT NOV. 2ND
And we're not gonna have a problem here.
The bumping was fine since it had substance, but double posting isn't. Anys, this is good news. We can trust SamuraiPanda.
And here I was thinking that new characters had been disclosed. =(
As it stands, by what i've seen of the link, it's just existing characters announced playing real-time.
Quoth the Samurai{panda}:
I hope you guys don't mind me not feeling like providing the full translations, but yes there will be a new trailer (although I'm not positive its a trailer or just a compliation of new pictures)
Although it does say that new characters (yes it was pluralized) will be revealed for the first time in the world.
Oh jolly good then, all is right with the world.
Trailer's apparently been shown. One new character (well, old, but now confirmed): Fox. Gameplay footage. That's it.
The only problem with any of this: it hasn't hit the Internet yet as of my writing. Grrr.
Nothing too new revealed, a few new stages: Mario Kart, Pit's stage, which seems to crumble away remarkably fast, the return of pokmon stadium, Snake's stage appears to be Shadow Moses Island from MGS. A few of snakes moves are demonstrated as well.
Paper Mario stage and Snake's attacks are the best thing ever!
That's Yoshi Island, Craig
-I don't dig Fox's Command look being implemented in the game, but hey, I give props for Sakurai "modernizing" him just like he did with a few other characters (i.e. Link in TP fashion). But...why does Fox carry his blaster at all times now?
-Snake's RPG = killz
-Mario Kart stage makes me happy! However, seeing Shy Guys ride the karts instead of the Mario cast seems weird to me. I'd rather have it where Shy Guys would substitute the Mario character you're playing as while the other Mario characters you're not playing as are taking the wheel, aiming to run you down. Know what I mean?
Hopefully there are other trailers premiering on the other NintendoWorld tour dates. I WANT to see Ganondorf.
It's already been hinted at that the clone characters won't be returning.
So that probably means no Ganondorf =)
Or maybe no Captain Falcon! *killed* But really this game looks outstanding. It's gonna be a system seller.
Also, I hope that if they do include the clones, Falco isn't sporting the Command style. He looks retarded in that game =/
Clones will return, but they won't be clones
Evidence plz
You give me evidence for Pete's sake
Yeah, he's right. Back in June, Masahiro Sakurai typed down numerous blogs on the japanese part of the official site (that's where you can ONLY find them). That's where we got the most info. He confirmed that the entire cast from Melee will NOT be returning, and that the clones who will be returning will be modified. Well, that was referred to all characters, so all characters will be updated from their past versions, like Fox for example. He also said he was going to "moderate" the speed of the game so first-timers can get in the action easily (though I figured Melee was simple enough as it is). But, he also wanted to do that to add emphasis to aerial combat. LOTS of aerial combat.
So yeah, due to Ganon's popularity, I would say he has a HUGE chance of returning as brand-new. However, I wouldn't say the same for the likes of Pichu, Dr. Mario, or even Young Link.
I would be much happier if WW Ganon was used due to his twin sword style, however, I would like Ganon to be like a combination of Bowser and Mew Two, very powerful but also has more flashy powers. Doctor Mario should have been an alternate costume in the first place, Paper Mario would've been an interesting one though.
Snake in action = awesome.
Wario in action = o0 weird
ZS Samus in action = sexy.
Fox in action = I HATE THAT ART STYLE UUUGH
This game = awesome anyways.
Wario's probably an early build; that's why his animations are sh*t.
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But, he also wanted to do that to add emphasis to aerial combat. LOTS of aerial combat.
Awesome, here's hoping for a Marvel vs Capcom style Air Combo system D
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ario's probably an early build; that's why his animations are sh*t.
Or it's diliberate, to make it look like the animation from Wario Ware.
Oh god I hope not =(
After such a long period of time, something out of the blue popped up...
The official site is going through a major overhaul, which will be reopened in 6 days...which also coincides with what Matt from IGN said - a Nintendo event going on.
Definitely expect some news.
EDIT: Just noticed that SH posted the same thing in that other topic.
Oh, there was still a Brawl topic. Figured as much. Shame ezBoard's search sucks, meaning I didn't find it. 🙁
Saw it this morning... I'm really excited
