Then again the maker of Resident Evil 4 stated that he would rather chainsaw his head off than port the game to PS2.
Guess what happened there? Note : he never did chainsaw his head off. But he did go off to make a new company.
Also seeing as someone on here might have a PS3, does anyone know if its able to play DVDs?
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Who wants to bet MGS4 is next?
I think Ninja Gaiden Sigma will be next since the original appeared on the original X-Box it obvious it will appear in 360 later on.
Ouch, look like Sony lost another one.
Here hoping Ace Combat 6 is as good as 4 was(I didnt play AC 5).
ACE05 was amazing, Zero was a bit short, and the plots have gradually decreased in quality (Four has got to have the best plot. Maybe not the deepest. Definately the best. There are parts in the cutscenes that were freakin' cinematic...not bad for a PS2 launch title.) - I highly reccomend anything with "Ace Combat" in the title.
Turns out, I have enough money in my wallet to afford a (probably used) X360. I have been considering an original Xbox for some time now, but I'm gonna have to consider the price of a 360 when the next pricedrops roll around - they're relatively cheap to a PS3 owner. Still nothing interesting for Wii, so instead of PS3/Wii, I think I may have PS3/X360 as my duo. Wii's selection just continues to dissapoint me with every new announced game...as does my DS. However, X360 is starting to get more and more interesting titles. At this rate, I may move the PS3 downstairs to take advantage of 1080p graphics, as the X360's 1080i max works in favor of my 1080i/720p TV in my room. Of course, I'm talking at least a year in the future, if not more. ACE06 hasn't even been announced as an X360 exclusive, yet. Namco (Not Capcom. o_o) announced it for the X360. They did not announce anything against the PS3, anyway.
More on topic of the PS3, Despite the massive amount of negative press, I am totally, 100% satisfied with my PS3 at present. This shows no sign of changing, and I highly reccomend the console to anyone who can afford to wait to save for it. Sorry, Sony haters.
EDIT: Okay, for fun I looked at the first few pages. All of the bad news...Is it just me, or are most of those pessimisms really panning out to be absolutely nothing? I'll cite one of SH's charming displays of optimism. "I'm sorry, but unless this thing is capable of having Windows or a fairly recent Linux distro installed on it with Firefox and all the trimmings, then they need to shut up about the "computer system" crap. Whoever's supplying the answers is saying it eight times. Overkill."
Isn't that exactly what it does? Granted, not Windows, but there are even Linuxes that are specifically designed to be run by PS3s and their massive amount of processor power (which, by the way, are by the Cell processors that work perfectly fine on it, despite all the prelaunch pessimism.)
Everyone took all of that as fact, yet when - surprise! - all of the pessmism was misplaced, that's never really big news. o.o
And the "PMG WE WON'T OWN PS3 GAMES!!!!@" controversy? Not only have PC's done that forever, it didn't happen. Or if it did, I haven't noticed it and it hasn't affected my game any. What about all the 'console-registering' crap that supposedly won't let you rent, or take it to a friend's house, or whatever people were so scared of? Seriously, all of THAT was blown way the hell out of porportion, so why does noone think that maybe the current bad news is being blown out of porportion too? The whole UK release controversy...The list, there aren't that many titles anyone cares about, and the list of broken titles is a hell of a lot shorter than the X360's. Sorry, though, UKers, you'll have to forgo your Happy Feet.
This thread is, what, at least nine months old? Going back to the earlier posts and saying "this didn't happen" dosn't really make a difference now. The damage was done then and has passed now.
For the record before I start this, backwards compatibility doesn't really do much for me. Which I why I find it odd that people find such joy in using VC on the Wii.
The main problem UKers/Europeans have with the backwards compatibility is that we have waited six months more than the US for the PS3 to be released, and in those six months, the price for us has increased for a console that costs less to produce and has less compatibility than what was promised and what an equivalent console in another country can do. Like I said, I don't care much for backwards compat, it's just something there that's useful for me, but it's the principle of it - Europe always gets sh*tted on by game companies, and this is just another in the long list of where we get screwed, and really is the bravest, largest instance in recent history that I'm aware of. As for the 360 lacking full backwards compatibility also, I don't recall there being an announcement from Microsoft that it would ever be otherwise - in fact, they outright said it wouldn't be - and this is the same over all regions, which is unlike Sony selling a gimped console that fails to do what was promised and provided to other regions for a higher price tag.
I admit that I sometimes get into a fanboyish monotony with this generation, but my personal feeling for the PS3 is that it is the most powerful console of this generation and when it builds some speed up it could well leave the other consoles in the dust, but at this early stage, with so few exclusives available and the ports showing little beneficial difference from the 360 versions, there's not enough to warrant the price tag as the most expensive of the generation. Just so you know, I don't feel either the Wii or the 360 have enough killer apps yet either, but I'm leaning mostly towards getting a 360 first when I go to next-gen and, at this rate, a PS3 last.
Which is quite a role reversal from last-gen.
Well, it's true that of all the games, the PS3 has the least amount of die-for games (X360 gets it there, it's just been out so much longer), but it's also true that PS3 has me totally psyched just for hte amount of games releasing this year.
And yes, it's true that I drudged up a lot of old suspicions, controversies, and outright lies about the PS3, but you missed my point: If those "huge problems that will sink all of Sony" were blown out of proportion - which noone said they were at the time - why does everyone take it for granted that the word about the PS3 NOW is accurate? I love the PS3. I'm totally happy with it. Seeing it above my 32" LCD brings a smile to my face. It works great, and looking back at all these huge CELL PROCESSORS SUCK IT'LL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN YOU DON'T OWN THE GAMES YOU CAN'T PLAY IT crap made me feel sick, because the same BS is still continuing.
I agree that Sony's really done some damn stupid things to Europe. Wait six months to pay more for less just sounds...wrong. I see why it's more the concept of "Hay, let's take more from EU, most of their currencies are worth more too, so we get MORE profit! *$800 PS3*" than the actual logistics of it; but I still think the whole thing is being blown out of porportion. Their list of incompatible games is small. Mostly insignificant games - I think Trudi was the one mocking it earier today - "Oh no, NOT HAPPY FEET! NOT BARBIE AND THE [something]!!!" - but don't quote me on her name, I'm pretty sure it was her though. - though I agree that at least Microsoft SAID there'd be problems.
It didn't stop Microsoft from advertising crap like "...plus hundreds of hit Xbox titles!" Once SOny announced it, they're at least being helpful, what with a speedy list of affected games, which really aren't much, and they're already releasing patches to fix that (V1.6x fixes some iirc). But is backwards-compatibility REALLY that good a thing? It's handy, but if you want true backwards compatibility, just keep your PS2/Xbox/N64/Whatever, they're worth next to nothing in a store. Still, especially overseas, waiting is probably better for a PS3. However, even if it just emulates games (And it does so well, despite the huge hype), I highly reccomend it to anyone with the money. It may be ture that HD is slower over there, but it is moving forward and prices are dropping like a rock - The TV in my room, a mere two/three years ago, would be a $2500 TV, apparently, and now it cost less than the PS3 did.
On PS3 Games For X360, MGS4 will be released for the Xbox, with full features. (Thanks Cindy):
Only one disc for actual gameplay. 
Well, since we're on storage mediums: have there been any PS3 games that have used at least 50% of the maximum Blu-Ray capacity? I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. An although I expect MGS4 to sport the highest capacity usage for the medium, I really don't think it's going to be impossible to fit it on two DVD9's when it comes right down to it.
WEll, there goes one of the things the PS3 had going for it.
If they lose FFXIII, I may never, ever get one.
Uh, it's a joke, if you mean the MGS4 thing...
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Resistance uses a good bit - and by the way, they all use more than a DVD can hold, mostly. Most. Note, I don't actually test the capacity and usage of the disks...
You should. It's fun. Hm, actually you'd probably need an actual BR-ROM to accomplish that. Never mind.
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Uh, it's a joke, if you mean the MGS4 thing...
Thank you kind sir. I would not have grasped that, me being the dullard I am.
So...
Games the will not work on the PS3 at all...
Metal Gear Solid 2
Gran Turismo 4
Jak 1
All Ratchet & Clank games
Guitar Hero I & II
Silent Hill 3
Wow.
So...games that WILL play, but with some problems...
SingStar. Every last version of it barring the most-recent, Anthems.
FIFA 06 & 07
Final Fantasy X & X-2
Canis Canem Edit (Bully)
Okami
GTA: San Andreas
Pro Evo 4, 5 & 6
Devil May Cry 2 (don't sweat, 3 should run fine)
Jak 2 & 3
Need for Speed: Carbon
...wow.
Like some of the PS3's best games arent back compatible, or will play but with issues. Will Sony ever learn to stop screwing up?
And yet I still can't play Mercenaries, Beyond Good And Evil or Psi-Ops on my Xbox 360, 1.5 YEARS LATER.
Oh wait, I forgot: we're only allowed to throw misguided hate at Sony here. My mistake.
And yet the PS3's backwards compatibility list still kicks the crap out of the 360's, which has been out for over a year. Yeah, this is really, really horrible news.
There is no misguided hate.
When it was announced Microsoft never actually said Xbox 360 would be backwards compatible with Xbox games. That came after the initial announcement.
On Microsoft's Backwards Compatibility, some one at Sony said "Well, that really wasn't backwards compatibility..."
But all three consoles are poo because none of them are by Sega. TRUTH.
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But all three consoles are poo because none of them are by Sega. TRUTH.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one, man...
Oh wait, you were serious. Huh, awkward.
No, I'm pretty sure he wasn't serious.
I can never tell on the internet. I've had to argue with people who're still convinced that the Dreamcast is better than the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.
Very Awkward.
Ignoring the whole Sega thing though. Because it quite clearly is the truth.
PS3 is far too expensive. Especially for UKians, with no real standout titles for launch that you can't get for the 360.
360 in turn is not extremely reliable and a lot of them thar rumours of a new HD-DVD Xtreme Version with a larger hard drive would put people off slightly.
Wii, so far is the master of the party games and could end up in the rut the DS is stuck in at the moment.
If I ever get a PS3, I'm keeping my PS2 around so that I may be able to play all these old Playstation games...or maybe Sony will fix these problems in the future...when the extra slim PS3 comes out...
If Microsoft plainly says that their backwards compatibility (I have a friend with an X360, he says Halo won't work on it. Come on, the game that made Xbox somehting to care about? M$, come on now. =/) is nonexistant, why do they advertise the X360 with things like "..and hundreds of classic Xbox titles!"
Additionally, the second list I don't know that I agree with. Any not on the list automatically don't work? Anyone who's looked at the list more thoroughly than I did, did the Sony site actually say that any unnamed games don't work?
And yet the PS3's backwards compatibility list still kicks the crap out of the 360's, which has been out for over a year. Yeah, this is really, really horrible news.
Dont make an idiot of yourself. Did I ever excuse Xbox?
<i>I have a friend with an X360, he says Halo won't work on it.</i>
I presume it's a Core - the only thing that can be played without a hard drive and software update is Halo 2, IIRC, and even that runs poorly. Since the 360 has no hardware emulation, it's only with the software that it can run anything for Xbox.
No, he has a Premium...damn, talking that makes it sound pretty horrible to have to pay to get a hard drive. o.o
Is it a European 360 running in 60Hz? Because that's the ONLY way Halo won't run.
Dude, I don't have a full biography on his Xbox. Anyway, no.
Then he's either lying or his console's overdue for repairs. There's no way Halo shouldn't run, since it was supported since launch.
If it's not a lie, then it's an unfortunate circumstance... but it's the exception, not the rule.
Repairs? Overdue? That sounds rather pathetic.
Not like Sony's had a better history. I've heard countless horror stories of people having to completely replace PS1s and PS2s due to disk read errors, particularly early builds. No word on how the PS3 will hold out yet, however.
Hey, if you can spin anti-Sony propoganda around at other companies, I can do the exact same back against Sony.
I own a firstbatch PS2. It works as good now as it did when I opened the box, Christmas 2000. I still have the controller that came with it. It, too, works as well as it did when I first used it, Christmas Day, 2000.
Early build problems my ass: my PS2 works great. And most of the people I've heard this from are die-hard anti-Sony, wether for Wii or 360, or not for anything, just against.
The same can be said for the 360. Plenty of first-batch 360s out there still work just fine.
Of course, you're also using the "single case overdoes the whole" argument. Yes, so somebody's grandpa smoked and didn't die of lung cancer. Does that one example immediately override the countless others who have? Of course not. So why should this case be any different?
hay can i join in this game of shouting random facts at each other that the other person doesn't care about
trying to change people's opinion when they're practically set in stone is so fun. we should try it more often both here and in mg!
Some random Sony-hating people's experiences matter less to me in the face of my own experience, which so far is totally positive. For the millions of PS2s sold, there are a relatively small number of complaints about PS2s calling it quits, conveniently when the next generation is out.
sounds like fun i shall yell a fact right now,
GO BACK TO MAKING TVS AND STEREOES SONY! leave gaming to the pros!
And I'm pretty sure the whole broken-360 thing's been blown out of proportion, as well.
You know, I kinda started this argument a bit heated, but looking back on it, it's really just history repeating itself. Actually it's kinda funny, seeing this same "problem" (be it the broken consoles or that issue being blown out of proportion) repeat itself over two generations with two different companies.
Yeah, but I haven't heard of any PS3s burning houses to the ground. Yet! 😛
Consoles have burned houses to the ground before?
It was on the news, an X360 did. Granted, it was probably under extreme circmstances, but still.
I've gone through at least five PS2s.
Hmm...had to send in our family's old PS2 in twice due to the infamous DRE (Disc Read Error...which, if you recall, led to a class-action lawsuit against Sony).
We got the slim version, and it's managed to hold up so far.
At least five? I think that's an exxageration, or a lie, or a miscount, but most likely it's a fluke. Anyway, since when is this a PS2 discussion?
Since backwards compatability gave way to a comparison of the 360 and the PS3 in terms of launches, which led to discussion of their precursor consoles...and so on.
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For the millions of PS2s sold, there are a relatively small number of complaints about PS2s calling it quits, conveniently when the next generation is out.
Riiiiiiiiiight. I've been hearing loads of complaints about PS2s crapping out since long before the designs for the next-gen systems were even finalized. I've known multiple people on message boards who've had PS2s die (including one who I actually helped get it running again), not to mention my own first PS2, bought in 2002, died on me in 2005. Conveniently right at a time when I was relying on it for my PS2 gaming, since I was waiting for the recalled power adapter from my slim PS2 to be replaced. I've since managed to repair it myself since I was bored and felt like taking it apart, but that doesn't change the fact that it died in the first place.
I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of PS2s that work fine. My brother's PS2, which was bought in 2001, still works fairly well for the most part. It's a little slow starting games sometimes, but it hasn't quit yet. But there are certainly plenty that have had problems.
I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS2s were notorious for crapping out. o_O
my friend bought a ps2, i tried to talk him out of it but his mind was set, a year later 12 days after the futurshop warantee runs out the cd tray calls it quits, he finally pried the damn thing open and now uses it as a cup holder, true story.
At least five? I think that's an exxageration, or a lie, or a miscount, but most likely it's a fluke.
Six, actually. Five fatties and a slim. The first one was from launch (DRE, obviously) and the second was what I replaced the first one with. Two of them were probably my fault because I tried to mod them, but they did work fine for a while. One was used but in good condition when I bought it, and most likely broke because I kept it at work, where it got at least eight hours a day of constant use. Those are just the ones that I can remember and have receipts for, and it is possible that my cannabis-addled memory is forgetting one or two. Anyways, the one I have now has held up decently so far, but it's not getting as much use as its predecessors now that I've mostly moved on to the 360 and DS.
Based on many years of professional experience, I can assure you that all Sony products are cheaply made and poorly engineered, and backed by piss-poor support. I'm not saying this is unique to Sony, but let's be honest here: nothing they sell is any better constructed or designed than the next leading brand. It's all the same overpriced, Chinese-made crap.
I purchased my PS2 just before GTA3 was released. It worked fine all the way until December 2006, when I purchased my PS3, except for one incident.
My cousin ran into my room to tell me something that happened at school that day. As he entered my room, he tripped on the chair in front of the cabinet with the TV/PS2. Unfortunately, the disk tray was open (I was choosing a game) and as he fell, he hit the disk tray and snapped it clean off. x.x
Fortunately, I was able to have it refurbished for a small fee, and aside from that incident, it worked perfectly the whole time I owned it. I had to replace the controller once, though.
Chu chu sonic, do you have ANYTHING constructive to add to this discussion, or are you just committed to posting random anti-Sony nonsense for no reason?
Put bluntly, get with the discussion or leave.
Ontopic: A little thing I've noticed: right now, Sony is the best first-party developer out there. Microsoft hasn't had a big first-party hit since Forza 1. Nintendo has Zelda... and little else right now from under the Big N tent. But in the last 2 years, Sony's had two Ratchet & Clanks, 2 Jaks, Shadow Of The Colossus, Resistance and both God Of Wars. And yet Sony gets no credit for this.
If third-party exclusives are dying and if first-party games will be the only exclusives, then Sony has a real fighting chance in this generation.
1,782 of the 2,451 European PS2 titles playable through backwards compatibility, with upscaling, is pretty damned good. Granted, a lot of those titles may still have problems, but that's still pretty damned good, compared to the 360 which has been out for a year. This isn't bad news, this kicks ass.
And if Europeans really want to play their favorite PS2 games, they should, you know, keep their PS2. Seriously. The slim PS2's not that big. It's not that hard to find a place for it. It even uses less power than a PS3. Win-win.
The PS3 is out in 12 hours in the UK. The queues at the official launch site are mounting!
