Firstly heck of a lot on the new Sonic 360/PS3 game in South Island. Plus Sonic: Wild Fire on Wii. Honestly its like Sonic Heroes time again. That was a really good summer.

Well basically in UK terms its 349.99 for the cheaper one. (Yeah meant to be 299.99 but its Ripp-off Britian for a reason).

I am tempted to save and buy one purely to sell on ebay though. I reckon I could get a grand. 😀

$600 is too expensive for anything you cant, sit, watch, sleep on though. So waits for price cuts.

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according to gamespot.com PS3 will launch with two different console versions much like 360 one with a built in hard drive and one without it on November 17 for $499 and for $599.

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Definitely far more than I want to spend on any console.They'll both have hard drives though, one will be 20GB and the other 60GB. But there are more downsides than that for the cheaper one. It also lacks support for Memory Sticks, SD and Compact Flash cards, has no built-in Wi-Fi and will have the HDMI output removed.

www.gamespot.com/news/6149552.html

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It seems to me that Sony has dropped a bomb here with the price tag, this is a bad move for them,not I'm not anti-Sony but I think this is a fatal mistake for PS3,

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Possibly. Can the console's Blu-Ray capability, its exclusives (MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Gran Turismo and... ummm... I can't really think of much else I'm interested in) and Sony's reputation make up for the price? A 360 price cut around the PS3 launch could be very important.

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this is definitely going to put them in the red

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As ofr Nintendo Wii well, although the idea sounds interesting and the 3rd party line up looks pretty good, I can't help but noticing that it's titles are all only made for working with the controller and serve no other purpose, although it's a nice idea, I can't help but notice that the console may end up being nothing more then a novelty, I don't fathom the idea playing Sonic on a Wii at all.

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Red Steel looks like an intriguing way of using the Wii controller for a traditional genre. A novelty that'll wear off quickly? Maybe. But it all sounds interesting enough so far that it deserves to succeed.

However, it seems there's also a more conventional "shell" for the controller, for all those cynics who don't want to dance around pretending to wave a tennis raquet.

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as for the industry itself, a CRASH is immenet ,

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As for SEGA, I still see a possiblity of them returning to the home consoles within the next year,

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This would obviously explain the next Smash Bros game, then.

The only games that really intrest me for PS3 are Sega and Namco fighters and the Ratchet and Clank games. Maybe the F1 games. Also Shadow of the Colossus 2/Ultra graphical update plzkaythxbye

Xbox 360 same thing really DOA, PGR, Halo Multiplayer, Advanced Warfighter looks cool.

Mortal Kombat, WWE Smackdown V Raw and others are multi format.

The only game I really want to play on the next gen at the moment is Sonic 06. That might be because I am a brainless Sonic zealot or might be because it might just be good. >_>

Ultimately, The games I mentioned will be like the old games but very, very pretty.

Also have Nintendo just stole something from Sony? Seriously though, that controller shell thing looks quite cool.

*in the voice of Mike the TV from Reboot* So could this be the fall of Sony's console presence? Why the heck would they even think anyone will buy a console for $500 or $600? Does this give Nintendo's Wii a chance to take over this hooliday season? Honestly, i'm getting a Wii[first] for sure now. ^_^

I still want a PS3, and only for the games. Just watching coverage today I see 6 PS3 games that look like a good buy; StH'06, Virtua Fighter 5, Tekken 5, Heavenly Blade, and Final Fantasy XIII. Plus it has backwards compatability to the PS2 and PS1. Nice.

But is it worth the price tag? I personally don't think I have enough info to come to a conclusion yet. Also unfortunately for me, none of the other systems had games that interested me, with the one exception of Wario Ware on the Wii.

Also have Nintendo just stole something from Sony? Seriously though, that controller shell thing looks quite cool.

Don't forget that the Playstation itself was stolen from Nintendo.

Have Sony actually innovated anything?

Eye Toy. Admittedly it has been an excuse to wave your arms in front of the TV but its still a good idea. And its made by the British. Plus Sony did start the whole Gaming=cool thing really.

But other than that though I can see your point.

Another thing I'd like to ask Sony is why in the hell should somebody fork over $500 for PS3 without a hard drive?

This kinda of budget not only hurts console sales but results in tremendous losses for a company, from the looks of it PS3 could easily end up just like 3DO because of this.

One question I'd like to ask Nintendo is if the Wii is GC backwards compatible? Because from the looks of it, it probably isn't. Also I hope you don't take this as an offense but I don't see any reason to buy a Wii noir can I motivate myself to play one, Why? Because I always go for the cutting edge console and Wii isn't that, also I don't want to look like a complete idiot playing with the wii-mote I suspect that the thing will most likely be very sensitive and delicate and probably defective(the controller)also, I strongly believe that Wii is Nintendo's last home console and that like Dreamcast it will most likely be a short lived console(please don't deny this possibility.)

Well so far this E3 isn't what I call exiting, there's nothing cutting edge plus the budget for a console now is just inexcusable. As For SEGA, I am egarly awaiting news from SEGA of Japan regaurding the direction that they are headed into next year,a new console (a Lindbergh) is NOT out of the question so TGS I am looking forward to.Alothough I may of heard wrong, I did hear a exec at SEGA of Japan say that AM2 isn't porting VF5 and serveral other Lindbergh games to PS3 and Xbox 360(with exeptions to Vitrua Tennis 3 which is probably a rehash of Power Smash)My hope is that if PS3 fails miserably or if Nintendo steps out of the home console market that this will movitate SEGA to return. Also please note that SEGA returning to home console market IS possible in the near future and not impossible.

SEGA of America itself is a poorly managed 3rd party publisher and thier business decisions are pretty much predictable and it's no suprise that SEGA of America would only make a small appearance at E3.

So in short, the industry is going into decline anylists like I said are already predicting a very sluggish holiday season for 2006 and a severe plunge in game sales for early 2007 much like the 1983-1984 season, this is not a just a theory on my part, this is what experts are saying. People are starting to grow tired of gaming because its always the same thing which I'm not going to get into now. But if this trend keeps up, be warned that a 1984-crash could occur. If a crash does occur then a game company will once again have to revive and change the way that industry is run, who do I think would probably be the one to do this? SEGA of course! And yes I konw that 3rd party developers are affected first by a crash but SEGA isn't exactly a small 3rd party developer its a big publisher who's always known for making arcade games and hardware for over 50 years.

There I go again ranting on about SEGA, the point I'm trying to make is that every market has it's golden years and red dry famines, so it's not uncommon to see a market crash and then rebound back less than a year later, if it happens I agian than industry will be revived in much shorter time then it took Nintendo to back in October 1985.

This is based on what I have skimmed through for reasons I'll explain later. You can only buy PS3 with a hard drive. (I think)
The Cheaper one has a 20Gig Hard drvie and no special port holes in the back of the console.
The more expensive one has a 60Gig hard drive and lots of special port holes.
What they do I dont know.
Nintendo said last year that Wii is completely backwards compatible with Gamecube. There was all those Gamecube Portholes hidden away in that console. I doubt anything has changed since then unless I'm wrong.

I just dont keep up with e3 (usless its my beloved Sonic, Soul Calibur and the rest) until I get a magazine really. I allows me to just look back at E3 without killing my modem.

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Don't forget that the Playstation itself was stolen from Nintendo.

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...wait, what? I thought it was originally a joint project between Nintendo and Sony, with Sony deciding to pull out and pursue it on their own after Nintendo basically said "wait, you guys expect to get paid for this? you're kidding, right?". I don't really see that as stealing anything from Nintendo.

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Another thing I'd like to ask Sony is why in the hell should somebody fork over $500 for PS3 without a hard drive?

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Er, as was mentioned earlier, both versions have hard drives. The full version has a 60GB drive, while the $500 version has a 20GB drive, and also is lacking all memory card slots, built-in wifi, and the HDMI port. Which means it's still pretty pathetic, but it does at least have a hard drive.

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One question I'd like to ask Nintendo is if the Wii is GC backwards compatible?

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Everything I've heard says it's supposed to be 100% compatible with the GameCube, down to having GameCube controller ports and memory card slots. Here's a picture showing this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ima...ution5.jpg

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Alothough I may of heard wrong, I did hear a exec at SEGA of Japan say that AM2 isn't porting VF5 and serveral other Lindbergh games to PS3 and Xbox 360(with exeptions to Vitrua Tennis 3 which is probably a rehash of Power Smash)

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Actually, it was announced that Virtua Fighter 5 is going to be released on the PS3 (and the PS3 only, no Xbox 360 version interestingly enough). Details here:

www.gamespot.com/ps3/acti...&mode=news

While you have a point there Zero I don't see many people willing to fork over $500 bones for a PS3, I told a bunch of people who were waiting for PS3 about the $500 and $600 price tags and they told me that they've decided not to buy one because it's budget is way out of thier league.

* The PS3 is going to cost $600 (for the fancy version).
* $600 is a lot of freaking money.
* The average person in Afghanistan only makes $800 a year.
* If an Afghani tried to buy a PS3, with two games and a controller, his children would starve.

Is anyone surprised by the PS3 price? This is what we were expecting, wasn't it?

I wouldn't pay $600 for a PlayStation 3, but based on my gameplay experiences at E3, I want one nevertheless. That puts it in a considerably better position than the Xbox 360.

Alothough I may of heard wrong, I did hear a exec at SEGA of Japan say that AM2 isn't porting VF5 and serveral other Lindbergh games to PS3 and Xbox 360(with exeptions to Vitrua Tennis 3 which is probably a rehash of Power Smash)
Uh, yeah, that one is definitely coming to PS3. In fact, I played it not twelve hours ago using a Dualshock 3. I will say, however, that what I played was basically VF4 with better graphics and a couple new characters.

But have you seen the new characters? One of them is Rey freakin' Mysterio. Not officially though. That would be a lawsuit.
Besides we mere mortals can't tell the difference between each Virtua Fighter. Thats up to the arcade jockeys in Japan.

Is anyone surprised by the PS3 price? This is what we were expecting, wasn't it?

That's exactly what I was thinking, which is why I don't understand the strength of the reactions. That siad, I'm getting one. In, like, I dunno, 5 years or something. Maybe not if the proverbial PS4 is backwards compatible.

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In fact, I played it not twelve hours ago using a Dualshock 3.

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They're not actually going to call it that, are they? Wouldn't make much sense considering how there is no "shock" with this one.

Please, like Sony are creative enough with hardware naming to give it a better one.

I thought it was going to be the Dual Shake? Anyone? No? Dust?

Wait, the $500 version has no memory card slots... So... I'm guessing all save files go staight to the hard-drive. Hmmm... But what about PS2 and PS1 games? If they go to the hard drive too, then we won't have a problem.

Wi-fi might do the trick to convince people to fork over the extra money, since Sony has announced that their internet service is free of charge (unlike Xbox Live). Apparently, you could download extra levels, characters, unockables and such for games you have through it. Plus the more expensive package has the Blue Ray DVD player, but I don't know anything about that.

DualShock 3? Who cares what it's called. Atleast it's not the icky and uncomfortable looking boomerang. And was the Playstation the first to port DDR? Then they would have been the first with dancepad controllers.

They're not actually going to call it that, are they?
No.

Well yeah, I expected a hefty price, sure. But I didnt expect it to roundhouse chucknorris me this hard. Theres no way I can buy that thing, not on its release date, no way. Maybe someday, years from now (or something) When the price is affordable I can finally enjoy the sex that is mgs4. Until then, Wii and 360.

Nice... I remember seeing that image long before this year's E3, but I completely forgot about it. Hilarious how things turned out...

Technically, Sony didn't "steal" developers, it just didn't treat them like crap.

Unless you were developing games in 2D, in which case they wouldn't let you release it because it's "not 3D enough". There are some exceptions, like all the Mega Man games or those old Final Fantasy ports, but still.

Sony's got a pretty hefty amount of blame in the downfall of 2D... at least, SCEA. SCEJ was pretty supportive.

I think Cyc said that last year when that picture was shown.
Ken "God" Kutargi has some how justified the PS3 price.
www.computerandvideogames...?id=139945
Plus UKians won't be getting the cheap PS3. Gamestation aren't taking preorders.
www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3...2311609002

I think Cyc said that last year when that picture was shown.
Probably, since it's just as true now as it was back then.

The UK ISN'T getting the cheaper option? Why the hell not? Are things not expensive enough here already?!?

Jeez, the PS3 is just pissing me off more and more, there's no way I'm paying near to half a grand for a games machine, no matter how shiney it makes the images on my TV.

Jeez, the PS3 is just pissing me off more and more, there's no way I'm paying near to half a grand for a games machine, no matter how shiney it makes the images on my TV.
Well wait for the price to come down then. It's not the end of the world, and besides, you've basically reached untold levels of stupidity if you're buying a console at launch. The whole idea is sheer idiocy. We've watched early adopters get screwed by faulty optical drives (PS1, PS2, Xbox) and exploding power supplies (PStwo, Xbox 360), or when the platform doesn't get any good games, or for whatever reason just fades away (pretty much every Sega console after Genesis). We've seen consoles with initially limited support become wildly successful (DS). We've even seen consoles with tons of potential suck truckloads of balls for a year or more before finally getting into gear (PS1, PSP). Basically, it's a good idea to give a platform at least six months after launch, if not a whole year, to shape up before passing judgement on it.

I don't have any plan to get a PS3 at launch, and never had intention to, but I do want some of the games on it. In my experience also, Sony take ages to lower the prices on there consoles and waited 2 years before the PS2 was afordable for me. My problem is that I keep hearing more news about the console which makes it more and more expensive, not just the console itself, but now that I won't get the option to have the cheaper deal, and that games are getting more and more expensive too.

Right now the most wanted game I want for PS3 is MGS4, everything else are things I would get if I had a PS3, rather than get a PS3 for, and at 425 I will not be getting one.

What do people think of the fact that the new controller has no vibrate?

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Given that the Rumble pak for the N64 ate up batteries, I don't recall having played any games that used the rumble in the DualShock 2, and that the Wavebird was my preferred Gamecube controller, I won't miss the feature one bit.

I just don't notice Rumble at all really. I play with full on PS2, Xbox and GC controllers but I dont notice rumbling at all.

In this case it doesn't bother me as I was never interested in the PS3 in the first place, but I would find the lack of rumble to be fairly annoying. I can deal without it, but there are certain games, such as FPS and racing games, where it can be pretty helpful. (that's one thing that annoys me a little about the Halo PC demo I've been messing with, it has no vibration support to let you know when you're being hit) It's nice to have in the Armored Core series for the same reason, although I can do without it. Some other games I don't care much either way, but it is nice to have. Given the option, I'd prefer rumble over the motion sensing stuff.

Personally, given how crucial vibrate was to Rez, I'm annoyed.

(that's one thing that annoys me a little about the Halo PC demo I've been messing with, it has no vibration support to let you know when you're being hit)
One would assume that the sound it makes and part of the screen being bathed in red would be sufficient indication.

I never saw the use of a rumbling controller nor ever felt the extra added realism it was supposed to induce, so good riddance to it.

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And that would be the case, if this game did that. The screen doesn't get bathed in red, nor is there a significantly loud sound that I've noticed. (Considerably different from say, Medal of Honor Allied Assault, where you get a significantly noticable sound as the screen flashes red and jerks violently.) The only time I've seen where the screen does turn red is if you get hit by an enemies melee attack. There is a red arrow that will show the direction the shot came from, but that's only if it was from the side or back. And when in the middle of a firefight, I tend not to notice those things as quickly as I do the vibration from the controller. It's not that I can't play without it, but I like having it there. Considering the otherwise great gamepad support, I'm surprised the game doesn't have that feature, actually.

Is it a problem to just look at your shield? oo

No, but with vibration it's one less thing you have to focus on as much in the middle of a large firefight. That and I sometimes don't think to check it enough when I don't immediately realize I'm getting hit.

But as I said, I can get along fine without it. I just like having it when possible.

The funniest thing about this thread is that he says "How could you?!" like Sony was personally attacking gamers.

BTW my older brother Matt was one of the biggest haters on the Wii I know of, and now he's deciding to get one because the 360 is lacking good games and the PS3 is too expensive. VIVA LA REVELOUTION

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...'reveling lotion lives'? Oo

Well, personally, Sony has lost the console war. There would have to be a game(s) that I would really, really want to warrant me to get one. Looks like the PSP is the only console I shall buy from Sony, at least until the PSP2.

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Yeah, the internet gaming community is really giving off a "GEORGE LUCAS RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!!!!!!1111111111oneone" vibe with this. It's kinda hilarious to see people so nerdy that they take it personally when something turns out to be expensive.

Especially noting that we worked out a few months ago that the hardware in the PS3 would make it this expensive, if not more.

Just read this thread again...

Noting that the development cost is $800, I'd say we should be relieved that the retail is only $600, opposed to the estimates in that thread.

Conspiracy Theory Time:
Sony lost the legal case against the manufucturers of the rumble things and now they are gone from the new pad with Sony saying they interfered with the tilt thing.

Makes you think. There is that whole Blu-Ray player inside the PS3 and PS2 was marketed as a cheap DVD player so maybe PS3 will be marketed as a cheap Blu Ray player.