awww... ;.; We can have hope.
If you're talking about that huge collage image with all the classic characters and "Wii" in the corner, that's not an official promo image. There's a thread on it.
I know there a thread of it...I was the last person to post there. And It's not offical art. ;.; I can only hope gametap will have it.
If 150 really is the price tag, then that's brilliant, and November 24 is a good date, especially since the PS3 was delayed here.
Nintendo are still keeping there mouths shut about it though.
$250 Wii on Nov. 19, says New York Times.
Funny thing is, people are angry about a $250 price tag - which I don't get, since it was always the upper bound anyway. STILL cheapest console available, and it sounds like there are a few bundles (definitely a nunchuck and a copy of Wii Sports, and maybe another controller, too?). Prolly worth it.
Damn you Shadow Hog... Beat me to the punch by 8 minutes...
I'm not disappointed by the price. $250 seems right, but that also means I'll only be getting Zelda for the time being...
Heh, you beat me by 20 mins. I'm sorta disappointed by the price because of the way IGN and others guessed it might be about $199. However, I'm not really surprised, either, it was more hype than actually expecting it to be less than 250 that got me.
As has been said, it's still the cheapest out there, and I can happily live with the price point because as Hiro said, it feels right, now I wish the 360 would go down and then I can get the Wii60 very happily.
Only thing left to say is "Wiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!"
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Funny thing is, people are angry about a $250 price tag - which I don't get, since it was always the upper bound anyway. STILL cheapest console available, and it sounds like there are a few bundles (definitely a nunchuck and a copy of Wii Sports, and maybe another controller, too?). Prolly worth it.
People are dissappointed probably because all Nintendo console in the past have been $200 and also the Wii's specs doesn't seem justifiable for $250 or they are not sure if casuals will lap it up at $250. I mean the Xbox 360 tard pack is only $50 more and spec-wise it is significantly more powerful than the Wii. Now what if hypothetically, MS decides to drop the prices of both SKUs of the X360 to $50-$100 within the following months? Nintendo could be screwed.
I was kind of hoping for cheaper, sooner. 250 dollars isn't really cheap. And I know a lot of people were hoping for an October release.
But that includes the controller, a game and the console. I mean a game with a console hasn't been done since the 16 bit era.
It's also the game everyone wanted but didn't think they could justify the purchase, I chalk that up to being on the ball.
I'm trying so hard to find a flaw in this thing, but as far as I can see, it'll print money along with it's cousin.
Here's hoping we UKers get good news tomorrow.
OOOOOO. No restrictions on first party games.
A bit like the EcksBox and EcksBox ThreeSixTea then. Apart there would possibly be an official list of Region free games.
I have to say I like most of what I've read so far. Before I continue I'd like to state that I never planned on
buying a Wii at launch, nor do I plan on it now. Following Cycle's advice, I'm going to wait a minimum of 6
months, possibly as long as one year. Just in case there is some recall, price drop, or they release it in black.
That having been said, I find only two things disappointing about today's announcements about Wii. One,
there was no announcement that the Wiimote would feature a built-in microphone, a feature I was hoping
they would include. And two, the
controllers will cost a small fortune.
Quote: Brad Shoemaker
Additional Wii remotes will be
$39.99, separate from the nunchaku, which will be an additional $19.99.
Sixty U.S. dollars total for each controller? Selling the nunchucks separately? I'm already seeing Nintendo's
concept of Wii being "a party waiting to happen" begin to crumble.
Now granted each box contains a Wiimote and a nunchuck, so single player is still safe. And not all titles
will require the nunchuck, perhaps how they've justified selling them separately, though I still think they
should be sold together.
Perhaps the only ray of hope for "party-style" multi-player gaming on Wii, lies in the Wiimote's internal
memory.
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The second component of the Mii
concept is transporting your Miis elsewhere, since they're stored on your remote. Head to a friend's house,
play tennis with your controller, and you'll see your Mii pop right up in the game.
It would seem that Nintendo is taking yet another risk, and for the record, I considered everything Nintendo
has done since they announced DS to be a risk at first. Is Nintendo expecting just about everyone to buy a
Wii, make their own avatar, or Mii if you will, and use only their own Wiimote at any multi-player get
together? Don't get me wrong, I could see hard core gamers (even certain medium core gamers) hosting
B.Y.O.C. (bring your own controller) parties/tournaments. But what if some friend who doesn't own a Wii
comes by your home and wants to play some Wii games? What if three such friends come over? What if
someone else in your home (roommates, siblings, game literate parents) wants to challenge you? Would you
actually spend an extra $180 U.S. (cost of three extra Wiimotes and three nunchucks) for four-way, "party-
style" multi-player? Have I asked too many questions in a row?
Now again I'd like to state that I like just about everything else about Wii, and I don't want you all thinking
I'm the next Pat L. Hedgehog. I'm just voicing my concerns about the future of off-line multi-player gaming.
I've said my peace, now discuss.
I pretty much think all looks bomb, but I must agree.... $60 controlers sound lame. o_o
Link gets to be right handed in the Wii Twilight Princess too.... ^^; Interesting. The Mii thing doesn't sound half-bad but I'm not sure exactly how much of a boom it'll make.
~T2K
TMX, you can store several characters per controller, and swap them around via a cute little menu. So, you just create several characters that look like all involved, and swap them to your controllers (or theirs, whatever) at will.
Awww...I really wanted an October release. Although now, I can earn more cash. This is great news though. After the PS3 is an odd move though. Still only two months, I can wait. That's 4 more paychecks. =)
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TMX, you can store several
characters per controller
That's not the problem Shad. I'm talking about Simultaneous off-line multi-player gaming. Let me
give you a hypothetical scenario.
Let's say three friends come over and want to play Mario Party X (imaginary game created solely for this
example). Obviously you could take turns for the board game, thus using only one Wiimote. But as soon as
you start nearly any mini-game, every player is going to need a Wiimote in hand.
Even in this situation, your looking at an extra $120.
Now, I'll admit I don't participate in multi-player gaming often, so this isn't a huge deal to me personally. I
also realize that even now you have to pay about $90-$105 for three wavebird controllers. Yes, I know it's a
revolutionary controller, and a feature rich controller costs money. But that still doesn't change the fact that
Wiimotes and nunchucks are bloody expensive. Each Wiimote costs as much as an Xbox 360 controller,
three complete controllers cost about 3/4 of what the console costs.
I know gaming costs money, but at this rate, nintendo could lose the social gaming demographic. I just hope
Sony doesn't notice this one weakness and figure out how to sell PS3 controller for less than $20 each. >_<
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But that includes the controller, a game and the console. I mean a game with a console hasn't been done since the 16 bit era.
It's also the game everyone wanted but didn't think they could justify the purchase, I chalk that up to being on the ball.
Personally, I would prefer if they'd excluded Wii Sports and scaled back the price by twenty-five bucks.
Didn't Nintendo say they were going to package the controller and the nunchuck together at first? Wow Cycle was right. *Ages ago*
$60 + What ever the Controller shell will be + what ever little gimmicks that will come out X 3 = Very Expensive. When that gets put into real money it will be 40 per Wiimote and controller. (we will find out real money prices today)
I know every single game won't use the Nunchuck but that really should be a standard controller. Wiimote and Nunchuck.
I don't see the issue. The Wiimote+Nunchuk is the same price as a Wavebird when it was new PLUS it has the memory card built in.
With a PS2 it'd be 20 controller, 15 memory card.
Sure, getting the unneccasary memory card on all controllers sucks, but it's got your personal settings built in. It's YOUR controller. The idea of having your own personal one is pretty enticing.
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WII LAUNCH DETAILS: European launch date December 8 2006, priced at 179 (249 Euros). Package will include console, Wiimote, nunchuck, cables and all that jazz. Oh and Wii Sports. Er, games will cost 35 - 39 in the UK and 49-59 Euros elsewhere.
Japan launch (no wii sport): 25000 yen = $212 = 113
US launch (with wii sport): $249.99 = 29,383 yen = 132.88
UK launch (with wii sport): 179 = $337 = 39,579 yen
Rip off britain/europe D:
Also europe gets it for 249 euros = 167 :O
Oh for crying out loud! 179?!
Bloody hell. >=/
The cheapest console ever released with a free game no less. Only 40 added due to UK taxes and exchange rate (opposed to the PS3's 120) and yet people are angry?
You people just can't be satisfied at all, can you. We live in the strongest economy of the super powers and get VAST amounts of tax. Exchanging Yen or Dollars to pounds COSTS money. Yes, our ecconomy is good enough to get stuff directly from other countries cheaper, however shipping and selling to this country costs them more. Thusly the price is going to get jacked a bit to cover it. It's how things work. Don't like it? MOVE! Ninty have given us the best package imaginable and you turn your noses up at it.
You guys are just spoiled brats. I'm sorry. When I was growing up we'd have killed people for something this cheap, and that's when inflation was low enough for things to sound relatively cheap in retrospect.
We do get screwed, I agree, but this is still the bargain of the century, and I'm sickened that people expecting $200 or 125 are getting all indignant. I can still buy 3 Wii's for the price of a PS3.
I'm REALLY disappointed with the entire internet right now. You expected gold but got silver. It's still better than bronze!
Seconded on pretty much everything Craig said.
179 is cheap for the UK. You don't see me complaining.
I think the deal on the Wii is the best I've seen on a console since Sonic the Hedgehog was built into the Master System. Think of it this way, all consoles came with one controller, and with games like Wii Sports, which is with the console, will only use the Wiimote itself. Add to that free and easy online conection, cheaper games than the competitors, connection with the DS that doesn't need a cable, a completely new method to play games, AND all of Nintendo's home console history up for download along side the Megadrive's history. I personally can't wait for it.
I'd rather have a package without Wii Sports in it and pay about 30 less, actually. As it stands, Wii Sports hardly looks like an interesting enough game that would warrant such a full price and it was obviously added in because few would buy such a standalone title.
Dude, you're looking a gift horse in the mouth. This is CHEAPER than all of the bare bones consoles. Heck, the "not worth buying" Xbox 360 is more expensive. It's such a miniscule fee, are you REALLY that cheap that you'd whine about the freebie?
So we are paying over 14,000 yen for the extra wii sports, whilst japan can buy it for 4,800 yen?
the 10,000 yen can't make up the added euroland costs
Dude. It's a freebie.
I work in market research, if Nintendo drop that price below 150, it's price association puts it in the same bracket as the old generation which sell between 40-120 in my experience, though the +100's are packages, so it's an unfair comparrison, but to the eyes of the average ignorant soccer mom who's been told NOT to get the previous gen because that's oooooold, they'll see a 120 Xbox with 5 games and 2 controllers next to a brand new Wii for 150.
Price association, which is basic psychology, will rate the Wii next to the Xbox, whereas the Xbox 360 is 200-300 and the PS3 is 450. Via that simple logic, the Wii must be a piece of trash compared to the other two, and in alot of senses it is, but that's beside the point.
Xbox 360 sort of did a favour by lowing to 200, so now that's the most expensive console you can buy this Christmas. With Wii only a bit cheaper it can still seem a bargain piece of current gen equiptment, rather than an average priced old thing.
If adding a new game bumped the price up and gave another insentive to buy, so be it. It's better than undershooting and losing out through it. Remember, Nintendo's aiming for the NON-gamer audience. The gamer audience is smart enough to do what they want with their money, they research it. For an ignorant Christmas buy in an Argos or what have you, a cheap Wii is going to seem a bad buy. A Wii marginally cheaper than the Xbox is going to seem a bargain. It's really simple.
Hence why I think the Xbox is actually going to be a big hit. Predator pricing is a good stratergy. They advertised the beefed system up until now, but for the Christmas rush they dropped the price of the core and are advertising that heavily, making it seem like a huge price drop which will make the demand held back by price suddenly flood into sales.
Microsoft and Nintendo know how to play the market. It's actually a fascinating little war.
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I think the deal on the Wii is the best I've seen on a console since Sonic the Hedgehog was built into the Master System.
Sonic was built into the Master System? I didn't know this! Mine had Alex Kidd in Miracle World. Not that I'm complaining, Alex Kidd was good too.
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Sonic was built into the Master System? I didn't know this! Mine had Alex Kidd in Miracle World. Not that I'm complaining, Alex Kidd was good too.
They were both buit in, though never together sadly, but my first console was a Master System with Sonic 1 built in.
At first I thought the Wii was a bit overpriced but then again, its not that bad of a deal. It needs to look more expensive than the old generation while being cheaper. I hate you Nintendo for making me care.
My biggest gripe is still the controller. The fact that Nintendo separated the Wiimote and the Nunchuck makes no sense to me.
Little Johnny is going to look at his second controller and wonder where half of it is gone.
A while ago on Game Central (UK Teletext Game info type thing) did an article on the dark side of the Wii as opposed to all of the people going how great it is and how its going to end the war on terror.
Basically it was about how tempermental the configuration of the controller had been for some of the 3rd Party games they had playtested.
And come to think about it one of mission statements about the Wii is to attract the casual user like the DS did. How is it going to do that when there is at least 4 different controller configurations.
I still like the idea of the Wii but its not all rosy.
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The fact that Nintendo separated the Wiimote and the Nunchuck makes no sense to me.
Considering not all games use the nunchuck, would you rather pay an extra $20 for something you're not going to use or be able to buy them separately which affects absolutely nothing other than the fact that it allows people who don't have any use for the nunchuck to save money?
Uh-oh, maybe the Wii isn't Region-free after all...
www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=19686
Or only PAL areas are affected...
"The Dream is dead!" -Onslaught
But wait...
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Or only PAL areas are affected...
That's what I'm thinking. It makes sense for UK consoles to be region-locked because of the PAL standard, right? The others need not be because of the compatibility of NTSC between regions.
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I think the deal on the Wii is the best I've seen on a console since Sonic the Hedgehog was built into the Master System.
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Sonic was built into the Master System? I didn't know this! Mine had Alex Kidd in Miracle World. Not that I'm complaining, Alex Kidd was good too.
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They were both buit in, though never together sadly, but my first console was a Master System with Sonic 1 built in.
SNAIL MAZE FTW.
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That's what I'm thinking. It makes sense for UK consoles to be region-locked because of the PAL standard, right? The others need not be because of the compatibility of NTSC between regions.
Most tvs here are ntsc compatible or even what they term as "pal-60Hz". So having a region lockout is silly, the people that are likely to import the games from ntsc lands into the uk or europe would already know about such things and would make sure that their tv is compatible before hand.
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SNAIL MAZE FTW.
Secret hidden built-in (free) games ftw
Well, i got a weekly game news letter form yahoo! and they said some thing interestins about the wii...
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The Wiil will be in stores on Sunday,November 19, priced at $249.99. It come with Wii Sports, one remote, and one nunchuck-style controller attachment. It's launch game roster is still unconfirmed, but about 15 games will be available that day, increaseing to 30 by the end of the year. In other words, it'll be half the price of it's competion, come with a free game and launch within days of one of it's biggist rivals with the first genuinely innvative control system sense the analogue stick.
I copyed the whole artical for the Wii, BTW. I really hope Rayman Raveing rabbits is good. But it's all in yahooo! game page. And i thought the Wii was gonna be out 'till later.
Oh yes we can tell you copied it. 😛
Yep, it's offical. The Wii is 100% not region free in any teritory.
www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120408
It would really suck if the VC games are not region free also.
Pardone me, But there no point of games on the wii because half the games are made in Japan and other over seas places, right? Or am i being retarded? (Waits for some one to bit her head off)
Eather way, this is the most RETARDED thing i EVER read in my entire life - Video game wise. Good thing i don't have the urge to order things from over seas.
What the hell are you jibberjabbering about? Region Free means that you can import a game from any other country, so if you want something early from Japan, or a proper version which hasn't been whipped into submission (Sonic Gems, for instance), you can just go to play-asia, place your order and be done with it.
How about games like the Shonen Jump Smash Brothers thing which never get released in America.
The import market is huge, don't let your patriotism fool you, people want their games and they want them NOW.
For us UKers, that means importing US games, as they take 6 months to get here.
Without the region free, we'll have to swap-disc, chip or destroy our Wii to get the games playing. *Shakes fist at sky* NIIIIIINNNNNTEEEEENNNND<Darth>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!</Darth>
It is getting bit less rosy for the Wii now.
170 is a bit much for a Gamecube Turbo with a new controller.
360 has about 5 games that don't involve schoolgirls wrasslin each other that interest me.
PS3 is going to be at least 100 too expensive.
I mean what's going to happen after the initial 2 years of the Wii? Are the new games going to dry up like the Gamecube. Or is there going to be another Home Nintendo console that will compete with the 360 and PS3 graphically.
Thats how I'm looking at all three consoles with an eye of caution. This leads me back to Sonic '06 though... Damn you Sega why haven't you returned to the console market? It would be so easy then.
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170 is a bit much for a Gamecube Turbo with a new controller.
Gamecube turbo which uses brand new method to controlling, a game, and free internet access, and access to Nintendo home history, I'd say it's a great price. The technology in the pad is gonna cost Nintendo a bundle to manufacture as well, I can't see any reason to complain. Even with the lack of region free, that's nothing new to consoles and shouldn't be considered a negative.
What's more, calling it a Gamecube turbo insinuates you pay for the graphical ability and the same thing in gameplay, rather than the amount of fun you'll have with something very new. In that regard, the Gamecube is an N64 Turbo, the Wii is unlike anything else.
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I mean what's going to happen after the initial 2 years of the Wii? Are the new games going to dry up like the Gamecube. Or is there going to be another Home Nintendo console that will compete with the 360 and PS3 graphically.
Considering how the DS has gone, I'd say it'd be more likely that there will be more games coming out that take greater advantage of the systems features, and developers and consumers won't really consider it in competition with the other options out there, seeing as you can only compare on visual quality rather than the actual experience.
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Thats how I'm looking at all three consoles with an eye of caution.
YES! Join the Current-gen(Wii doesn't count) and handheld party!
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This leads me back to Sonic '06 though... Damn you Sega why haven't you returned to the console market? It would be so easy then.
Don't go all Pat on me, now. 😉 And I know you know the answer to that question. Don't worry, by the time PS3 and Xbox 360 is more cheap Sonic 06 will probably retail for less than $30.
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What's more, calling it a Gamecube turbo insinuates you pay for the graphical ability and the same thing in gameplay, rather than the amount of fun you'll have with something very new. In that regard, the Gamecube is an N64 Turbo, the Wii is unlike anything else.
I care about graphics when the console is fresh out of the box. I got a Sega Saturn and Sonic Jam, I was amazed by Sonic World. I got a Playstation and Forumla 1, I was amazed by the crispness and Murray Freak'n Walker. I got a PS2 and GT3, again graphics was amazing. After the initial oh wow factor is gone I do focus more on the games. And every now and again a game will pop up that will make me go oh wow at graphics again. I'm sure that Wii will have good graphics with long draw distances and better framerates than the current generation, but will that be enough to attract Little Johnny?
I'm still worried about the longivity of the Wii really. The Gamecube sold alright (about a million less than Xbox and that might be more done to theres more Americans who like to swear down the internets) But still the titles and shelf space dried up.
DS has blurred things though. The DS does have the unique control system and was quite cheap. But then again it was technically Next Gen graphics for handhelds. It was a N64 in your pocket.
Wii has a unique control system and is cheapish. But Little Johnny might look at the back of the box and see the screens and think its just a Xbox. And ignore the whole controller. At launch I have no doubt that gamers, pixelantes and nerds will lap up the Wii but will it actually atttract the non gamer market like the DS and will it attract the casual gamer (Fifa, Piiza and Beer) like the PS2 did to ensure its long term longivity.
And all of this of course is proof that Sega is returning to the console marker... What did I say? *zomg!smithstyleheadexplode*
Edi: When I started this Ashide's post wasnt here. I blame dinner. *Hugs his Xbox, Gamecube and Playstation 2*
I see stores here running more publicity for the Wii than the PS3 or 360.
I think they expect it to ride on the success of the DS.
John, you're missing the entire point of the Wii.
Nintendo aren't trying to attract casual gamers, hardcore gamers, or anything else that ends in 'gamer'.
They're reaching for a broader demographic by inventing a whole new way of controlling games that anyone from 5 to 95 can get into and play easily, while still having fun.
Basically, this means that they don't care what we think about the Wii; that's what the DS is for. What they care about is reaching as-yet untapped markets and selling them video games.
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- Epyx announced Commodore 64 will be added to Wii's Virtual Console, the first batch of Commodore 64 titles for Wii will be Impossible Mission 1 & 2, Winter Games, Summer Games 1 & 2, Pitstop and Jumpman Junior,
It's over. Sony/Microsoft is finished.
All kidding aside, I don't think anyone could have foreseen this announcement. What a shame I missed out on C-64 growing up, I might have been more excited about this.
Now all we need is an announcement with Sega Saturn games. =)
C64 raised me. I had it when I was like 4 and it was kept safe and well fed until I was 14, ended up with a suitcase full of cassettes.
Give me New Zealand Story, Bombjack, Jet Set Willy, Chucky Egg, Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters II, Appolo 13, Mickey, Paperboy, Airwolf...
I could go on!
My dad will freak out when he hears about this. Nintendo just offered the KO blow. Get Amiga and it's all over, seriously.
